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Townyj

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Yeah only one I saw.

They still could for all intents and purposes, still have Akida in the background parallel for I know and hedging their bets.

In the scheme of things was only a short 6 mth project and yes we still got others going.

Exactly... its not all bad. We have been validated. Most people seem to think we are going to be adopted into everything in the world. That wont be the case.. Intel have ALOT of pull and who knows what was whispered behind the scenes. We aren't magically going to run over them, no matter how much better Akida is than Loihi.. Intel's hardware will still be used in favour (In some use case's). Just because of the name and reputation.
 
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jk6199

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Looks like further pressure on the share price yesterday/today from the bots, shortee's and deep pocketed manipulators.
A somewhat mild tree shake considering the volume outstanding.
Undoubtedly they are awaiting with glee the release of some apparently "doom and gloom" news with which to try and spook holders and at which point they will intensify their attack.

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Also suspect infiltraitors are/will be trying their tricks here as part of a coordinated assault.
Notice how some on the abandoned site of woe have had all their previous mealy-mouthing's greyed out in an attempt at hiding history. :ROFLMAO:
Would've thought it easier if they just came up with new pseudonyms.
But assume they will just lurk, knowing that their bad manners and conceit will reveal them soon enough and that we don't tolerate that unkind and uncool bullshit here. Keep that for the H Crap shite where the Mods sympathies are transparent and self serving.
Here, they will be exiled to the forbidden zone, and good riddance.
Hang tough Chippers
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
AKIDA BALLISTA
AKIDA EVERYWHERE.


Well said, burn baby burn!

So, it appears that their main weapon is to create fear?

The price drops but most of us consider buying more because the shares are more affordable, not sell them as they want 😳🤔😂
 
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Exactly... its not all bad. We have been validated. Most people seem to think we are going to be adopted into everything in the world. That wont be the case.. Intel have ALOT of pull and who knows what was whispered behind the scenes. We aren't magically going to run over them, no matter how much better Akida is than Loihi.. Intel's hardware will still be used in favour. Just because of the name and reputation.
Agree.

Have to be realistic and understand will not get everything....1% $ mkt always been thrown around.

Also need remember Loihi is still a research chip not commercial and suspect some companies like their name linked to such a brand name.

They may consider an easier path through NASA with someone like Intel.
 
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Reuben

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Exactly... its not all bad. We have been validated. Most people seem to think we are going to be adopted into everything in the world. That wont be the case.. Intel have ALOT of pull and who knows what was whispered behind the scenes. We aren't magically going to run over them, no matter how much better Akida is than Loihi.. Intel's hardware will still be used in favour (In some use case's). Just because of the name and reputation.
as FF says, we just need 1 percent of the edge AI market, that itself is HUGE.
 
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Townyj

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as FF says, we just need 1 percent of the edge AI market, that itself is HUGE.
The way i look at it is like this.... 1% of the Edge, Cars, Robotics/Tech, Medical, White Goods, Drones/Aircraft, Wearables/Phones, Industrial/Mining.

Imagine if we got 1% of each of those markets. Its going to be alot bigger than people think imho.
 
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Townyj

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Agree.

Have to be realistic and understand will not get everything....1% $ mkt always been thrown around.

Also need remember Loihi is still a research chip not commercial and suspect some companies like their name linked to such a brand name.

They may consider an easier path through NASA with someone like Intel.

People have friends or links so of course they will want to rub shoulders and give favours. Gotta keep the big boys happy.
 
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Foxdog

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Check the dates, this is pre announcements by Brainchip of connection to NASA. Loihi is the one that didn't make it.
Yep, noted thanks 👍
 
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Reuben

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The way i look at it is like this.... 1% of the Edge, Cars, Robotics/Tech, Medical, White Goods, Drones/Aircraft, Wearables/Phones, Industrial/Mining.

Imagine if we got 1% of each of those markets. Its going to be alot bigger than people think imho.
That is exactly what I have in mind, cars,wearables, drones, robots, dell servers.....list goes on... 1 percent is huge, everyone else can have the rest 99 percent )IBM,INTEL Etc) ... :cool: everyone makes money
 
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HopalongPetrovski

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Agreed, but it would be nice and well received if the company countered any doom and gloom predictions with a couple of positive and substantial announcements. Regardless of NDA's I want to hear some results.....just saying as the languishing SP is giving me the sh*ts. Not so patiently holding on tight......
The 'positive and substantial announcements' will come, but not just as sugar hits contrived to counter macro economic circumstances over which the Company has no control.
I am confident everything is on track and that the Company is proceeding as fast as possible.
That is why I continue to hold.
I much prefer to be invested in a real company, doing the hard yards necessary to generate substantial ongoing wealth by developing and incorporating itself in nascent technological ecology's that will be adopted ubiquitously in the near future.
Whilst we all want to be stock value millionaires yesterday, I'm not looking for a bubble with Brainchip.
I want it developed to it's true potential, thoughtfully, carefully, crossing all the T's and dotting all the I's along the way.
That's what I invested in and have ridden these last 7 years and if success takes a few more, so be it. :cool:
If its a choice between quick and right, let it be done right.
That was my lasting impression after attending the last AGM, after listening and engaging with some of our board, and the reason I attended.
Meeting some of the 1000 eyes afterwards was but the cherry on top.
As has been previously stated the share price will get pushed all over the place, but ultimately no one will be able to hold it down.
The real company we are evolving into will be fundamentally unstoppable.
Like all good things....it takes time.
AKIDA BALLISTA
AKIDA UBIQUITOUS
GLTAH
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Quick TA thought.

Personally like to see a break through mid 90's confirm poss small double bottom then ~ 1.02 / 1.04 to clear prev supp area now resist.

Failing that then mid / high 70's potential supp revisit & ranging.

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Posted some thoughts back on the 4/7

"Personally like to see a break through mid 90's confirm poss small double bottom then ~ 1.02 / 1.04 to clear prev supp area now resist.

Failing that then mid / high 70's potential supp revisit & ranging."


Just updated charts as at this morn with the 4/7 chart first then today for ease of viewing.

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Bravo

If ARM was an arm, BRN would be its biceps💪!
Here's some more breaking news today on this Russian company who have teamed up with Motive Neuromorphic Technologies located in Moscow.

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Kaspersky invests in development of neuromorphic processors​


By Back End News on July 4, 2022

With the goal of creating new opportunities for machine learning-based solutions, cybersecurity firm Kaspersky now has a 15% stake in Motive Neuromorphic Technologies (Motive NT), a company specializing in neuromorphic computing technologies.

“Neuromorphic processors’ field of application is an acceleration of the hardware used in the latest generation of artificial intelligence systems, which are based on spiking neural networks (SNN) training,” Alexey Romanov, CEO of Motive NT, said in a media release. “This approach is more akin to biological interactions — whereas, traditionally, artificial neural networks (ANN) exchange numbers — neuromorphic processors enable them to operate like biological neurons, communicating through spikes.”

In 2019, Kaspersky concluded a cooperation agreement with Motive NT, joining it in the development of the Altai neuromorphic processor, which accelerates the hardware of systems using Machine Learning. During the partnership, the companies’ specialists together produced their first batch of neuromorphic processors, developed a software package for them, and successfully confirmed their performance on measures of speed and energy efficiency through experimentation.

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“According to various estimations, the market for neuromorphic chips could exceed $7.5 billion by 2025,” said Andrey Doukhvalov, VP, Future Technologies at Kaspersky. “Our investment in Motive NT and role as a shareholder highlights Kaspersky’s visionary ambitions and our commitment to uncovering new perspectives in various technological areas, including those outsides of the traditional cybersecurity sphere.”

Neurochip

The companies are currently developing a second version of the neuromorphic processor as well as searching for technological partners to establish joint pilot projects using the Altai neurochip.

The release of the Altai neurochip to the market will make neural network training technologies more efficient and accessible for a wide range of devices by significantly reducing energy costs. Unlike classic processors, neuromorphic ones do not need to access and extract from memory (or registers) because all the information is already stored in artificial neurons. This makes it possible to process big data without additional computing power on end devices. Testing has shown that the Altai processor consumes nearly 1,000 times less energy than traditional graphics accelerators (GPUs), which are widely used today.

“For Kaspersky, access to these neuromorphic technologies paves the way for a global technology ecosystem,” said Doukhalov. “In the future, we will add hardware solutions based on neuromorphic processors to our proprietary operating system, KasperskyOS – a full set of software for countering cyberthreats, as well as the MyOffice suite.”

“This approach opens opportunities for the creation of extremely energy-efficient solutions,” Romanov said. “These processors will be in demand in such areas as the Internet of Things (IoT), robotics, (self-driving) vehicles, AR projects, cyber-physical security systems, face recognition, and intelligent processing of big data. These solutions can also be embedded in vision and speech recognition systems. The development of this technology could very well stimulate the emergence of completely new devices and technologies, because of its adaptability and the new generation of training algorithms it brings.”


If anyone was concerned about these guys being any competition to us, then you can put your concerns to bed, turn of the light and go to sleep. Their chip is still in development phase and only has 131 thousand neurons as opposed to Akida which is already commercialized and has 1.2 million neurons and 10 billion synapses.

Who wants to buy neuromorphic chips from Puto-land anyway? Not me!





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Townyj

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If anyone was concerned about these guys being any competition to us, then you can put your concerns to bed, turn of the light and go to sleep. Their chip is still in development phase and only has 131 thousand neurons as opposed to Akida which is already commercialized and has 1.2 million neurons and 10 billion synapses.

Who wants to buy neuromorphic chips from Puto-land anyway? Not me!





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mcm

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Goodness ... I feel like I've just won a prize on Sale of the Century being able to pick up a swag of BRN's @ 83c. 😎
 
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RobjHunt

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Agreed, but it would be nice and well received if the company countered any doom and gloom predictions with a couple of positive and substantial announcements. Regardless of NDA's I want to hear some results.....just saying as the languishing SP is giving me the sh*ts. Not so patiently holding on tight......
Pantene brother 😉
 
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Ok...was pretty certain this had been posted previously but did quick keyword search and couldn't find it so apols if has been already.

Just a nice reminder & summary imo.


TECHNOLOGY

Neuromorphic computing will need partners to enter the data center​

May 12, 2022 - by admin - Leave a Comment

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The emerging field of neuromorphic processing is not easy to navigate. There are major players on the field who are taking advantage of their size and ample resources; the highest profile is Intel with its loihi processors Y IBM TrueNorth Initiative – and a growing list of startups including SynSense, Innatera Nanosystems, and GrAI Matter Labs.

Included in this latest list is BrainChip, a company that has been developing its Akida chip (Akida means “tip” in Greek) and accompanying intellectual property for more than a decade. We have been following BrainChip for the last few years, speaking with them in 2018 and then again two years later, and the company has proven to be adaptable in a rapidly changing space. The initial plan was to bring the commercial SoC to market by 2019, but BrainChip extended the timeframe to add the ability to run convolutional neural networks (CNNs) alongside spiking neural networks (SNNs).

In January, the company announced the full release of its AKD1000 platform, including its Mini PCIe board that leverages the Akida Neural Network processor. It’s a key part of BrainChip’s strategy to use the technology as benchmarks while seeking partnerships with hardware and chip vendors who will incorporate it into their own designs.


“Looking at our fundamental business model, is it chip or IP or both?” Jerome Nadel, director of marketing for BrainChip, tells the next platform. “It is an IP license model. We have reference chips, but our go-to-market is definitely working with ecosystem partners, especially those who take a license, such as a chip supplier or ASIC designer and top-tier OEM. … If we are connected with a reference design for sensors for various sensor modalities or for the development of application software, when someone puts together the AI enablement, they want to run it on our hardware and there is already interoperability. You’ll see a lot of these building blocks as we try to break into the ecosystem, because ultimately when you look at the categorical growth in edge AI, it’s really going to come from building blocks leveraging smart sensors.”

BrainChip is pointing your technology to the edge, where more data is expected to be generated in the coming years. Referring to research from IDC and McKinsey, BrainChip expects the market for AI-needed edge-based devices to grow from $44 billion this year to $70 billion by 2025. Further, in last week’s report Dell Technologies World Event CEO Michael Dell reiterated his belief that while 10% of data is now generated at the edge, that will change to 75% by 2025. Where data is created, AI will follow. BrainChip has designed Akida for the high-processing, low-power environment and to be able to run analytical AI workloads, particularly inference, on the chip to decrease the flow of data to and from the cloud and thus reduce the latency in generating results.

Neuromorphic chips are designed to mimic the brain by using SNN. BrainChip extends the workloads that Akida could run by being able to also run CNNs, which are useful in edge environments for tasks such as integrated vision, integrated audio, automated driving for LiDAR and RADAR remote sensing devices, and industrial IoT. The company is eyeing sectors like autonomous driving, smart health and smart cities as growth areas.

BrainChip is already seeing some success. Its Akida 1000 platform is being used in Mercedes-Benz’s Vision EQXX concept car for in-cabin AI, including driver and voice authentication, keyword detection and contextual understanding.

The vendor sees the partnerships as a way to increase its presence in the field of neuromorphic chips.

“If we look at a five-year strategic plan, our external three years probably look different than our internal two,” says Nadel. “In the two internal ones, we are still going to focus on chip suppliers and designers and top-tier OEMs. But the three exteriors, if you look at the categories, are really going to come from basic devices, either in the car or in the cabin. whether in consumer electronics looking for this AI enablement. We need to be in the ecosystem. Our IP is de facto and the business model revolves around that.”

The company has announced a number of partnerships, including with nViso, an AI analytics company. The collaboration will focus on battery-powered applications in the robotics and automotive industries using Akida chips for nViso’s AI technology for social robots and in-cockpit monitoring systems. BrainChip is also working with SiFive to integrate Akida’s technology with SiFive’s. RISC-V processors for MosChip and edge AI compute workloads, running its Akida IP with the vendor’s ASIC platform for intelligent edge devices. BrainChip is also working with Arm.

To accelerate the strategy, the company this week launched its AI Enablement Program to offer vendors working prototypes of BrainChip IP on Akida hardware to demonstrate the platform’s capabilities to run AI inference and learning on a chip and on a device. The vendor also offers support for identifying use cases for model and sensor integration.


The program includes three levels: basic and advanced prototypes for the working solution, with the number of AKD1000 chips scaling to 100, custom models for some users, 40 to 160 hours with machine learning experts, and two to ten development systems. . The prototypes will allow BrainChip to bring its commercial products to users at a time when other competitors are still developing their own technologies in a relatively nascent market.

“There is a step of being clear about the use cases and maybe a roadmap of further sensor integration and sensor fusion,” says Nadel. “This is not how we make a living as a business model. The intention is to demonstrate real and tangible work systems based on our technology. The idea was that we could put them in the hands of people and they could see what we do.”

BrainChips Akida IP includes support for up to 1024 nodes that can be configured from two to 256 nodes connected through a mesh network, with each node consisting of four neural processing units. Each of the NPUs includes configurable SRAM and each NPU can be configured for CNN if required and each is event or spike based, using data scarcity, triggers and weights to reduce the number of operations by at least two times. Akida Neural SoC can be used stand-alone or integrated as a coprocessor in a variety of use cases and provides 1.2 million neurons and 10 billion synapses.

The offering also includes the MetaTF machine learning framework for developing neural networks for edge applications and three reference development systems for PCI, PC shuttle and Raspberry Pi systems.

The platform can be used for one-time on-chip learning by using the trained model to extract features and add new classes onto it or multi-step processing that leverages parallel processing to reduce the number of NPUs needed.

Here is the single shot:

And there’s the multi pass:


“The idea of our accelerator being close to the sensor means you’re not sending sensor data, you’re sending inference data,” Nadel said. “It’s really a system architecture game that we envision our micro hardware being combined with sensors. The sensor captures data, it is preprocessed. We make the inference from that and the learning at the core, but especially the inference. Like an in-car advanced driver assistance system, you’re not assigning all the computation and data inference to the GPU-loaded server box. You get the inference data, the metadata, and your load will be lighter.”

On-chip data processing is part of BrainChip’s belief that for much of the AI edge, the future won’t require clouds. Instead of sending all the data to the cloud, which leads to higher latency and costs, the key will be to do it all on the chip itself. Nadel says it’s a “small provocation for the semiconductor industry to talk about cloud independence. It’s not anti-cloud, but the idea is that hyper scaling to the edge is probably the wrong approach. You have to raise the sensor.

Going back to the cloud also means having to retrain the model if there is a change in object classification, says Anil Mankar, co-founder and chief development officer. the next platform. Adding more classes means changing the rates in the classification.

“Learning on chip,” says Mankar. “It’s called incremental learning or continuous learning, and that’s only possible because… we’re working with spikes and actually similarly copying how our brain learns faces and objects and things like that. People don’t want to transfer learning: go back to the cloud, get new fees. Now you can classify more objects. Once you have an activity on the device, you don’t need the cloud, you don’t need to go back. Everything you learn, you learn” and that does not change when something new is added.
 
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Damn that company called Akida holdings gets me excited for a split second.
 
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Pantene brother 😉
100% agree

Nothing has changed with the company, nothing has changed with the demand for the tech. Global events have effected markets across the board. Market grubs are using this to their advantage.

We have done the hard yards and are so close to breaking through to the other side. And once we do, in my opinion the results will start coming thick and fast. Those that hold through this period will be aptly rewarded for their conviction and patience.
 
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Diogenese

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Personally don't think so as it's not NASA who determine what tech is used IMO esp in Ph I proposals.

They will award Ph I based on merit, cost etc, wait till projects outcomes met (or not). Met in the case of the Techport info FF found recently and then issue a Ph II as I found with the NECR project and Intellisense recently.

For mine it is more the individual entity that will be choosing who or what they use in their proposals....this is more around Innovation themselves and personally reckon they ultimately wanted access to Intel research approval anyway but Akida was available and path of least resist to get the project and access to neuromorphic modelling imo.
Glass half full -- maybe NASA asked Tensor to switch to Intel because NASA already had enuf Akida projects.
 
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Diogenese

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If anyone was concerned about these guys being any competition to us, then you can put your concerns to bed, turn of the light and go to sleep. Their chip is still in development phase and only has 131 thousand neurons as opposed to Akida which is already commercialized and has 1.2 million neurons and 10 billion synapses.

Who wants to buy neuromorphic chips from Puto-land anyway? Not me!





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So 1.3 million Altai neurons = 50 W?
 
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