AVZ Discussion 2022

Flight996

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'...the DRC is really desperate for foreign investment and assistance with security from the US, and they are going out of their way to convince other countries they are endeavouring to clean up their mining sector and show it is transparent and has good governance'.

You can't use 'DRC' and 'good governance' in the same sentence.

You can however, use 'DRC' and 'lying, thieving, goat-fucking clowns' in a single sentence provided it's predicated with the phrase fuck off.

I hope that helps.

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BHRC invited Zijin to respond to allegations of lack of transparency in the development of the Manono lithium sector in the DRC. The company responded.

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FatCatz

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Anyone else feeling especially good lately?

I have been stress free. On holidays, enjoying pineapple daiquiris, a beautiful woman by my side. Life’s a bliss after years of torture holding this stock.

even been posting on the Crapper a bit lately.

Anyone else have similar vibes? 😉
 
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Dave Evans

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'...the DRC is really desperate for foreign investment and assistance with security from the US, and they are going out of their way to convince other countries they are endeavouring to clean up their mining sector and show it is transparent and has good governance'.

You can't use 'DRC' and 'good governance' in the same sentence.

You can however, use 'DRC' and 'lying, thieving, goat-fucking clowns' in a single sentence provided it's predicated with the phrase fuck off.

I hope that helps.

Cheers
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When I read @Rechnerhand post on Zijin’s reply (after Kibeya’s previous reply) it just reminds of their lies and attempts to cover up their corruption.

I don’t know for sure, but it seems Nigel is going via the legal and moral channels of using DLA Piper, taking their advice, being open to resolving our ownership rights through constructive discussion with the DRC government and letting the ICC and ICSID findings answer the questions posed by the BHRC and others.

As I said before, shareholders don’t have to abide by those limits, aside from the ICC and ICSID, we are the only ones actually putting the truth out there and calling out the corruption, and fortunately we’re not going to stop until we get paid out.

The more we post on their corruption, the more lies they have to tell to try and cover it up, and the more evidence the ICC and ICSID have on them.

The only thing I would add to your comment about predication, is that our comments should be followed up with this

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Panther22

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That's a key part of Japan's entry into WW2. I don't recall much of what I learned on the subject but I think their coal supply was being restricted. Could well be something
From memory of history class Australia cut supply of iron ore to Japan as they were using it to build war ships and the like and they were increasingly seen as a threat.
 
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Sangster

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From memory of history class Australia cut supply of iron ore to Japan as they were using it to build war ships and the like and they were increasingly seen as a threat.
Your recollection of the subject is better than mine. Professor Google mentions US sanctions particularly affecting oil, iron, and rubber supplies, all critical to their war effort against China.

Now we have US supply lines for minerals critical to the manufacture of tech components required to produce modern weapons. Sounds like history echoing.

We should probably hope the US can secure their critical minerals supply. Maybe our next T-shirt run ought to be "Vote yes on Greenland".
 
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The line:
CATH would obtain an option to purchase an indirect 30.5% stake in the project. An option is not an immediate equity investment. It is the right to become a shareholder later, if conditions become favorable.

Has the following condition missing:
CATH will pay AVZ US$259.25m to acquire a 30.5% indirect interest in the Manono Project, through the acquisition of shares in Green Lithium Holding Lte. Ltd (GLH) (a wholly owned subsidiary of AVZ International Pty Ltd (AVZI) and the holder of legal title to AVZ's interest in Dathcom Mining SA (Dathcom)), on satisfaction of certain conditions precedent, including grant of a mining licence for the project area covered by PR 13359 (Mining Licence) to Dathcom;

It makes a substantial difference to the article.

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Bin59

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Another great article by Kiki this time addressing The Hidden Percentage: when the investment becomes a payment of corruption.


Part I #InvestiRDC🇨🇩

10/20/30% ghosts for investment in the DRC

By Kiki #Kienge

This series of articles is not a trial, it is an observation: explain an uncommon practice, explain its real mechanisms, show its destructive effects, open the debate without taboo, propose credible alternatives.

Fighting a practice does not start with insult, but with lucidity.

The Hidden Percentage: when the investment becomes a payment of corruption.

In the Democratic Republic of Congo, investment does not necessarily begin with a feasibility study, a business plan or an administrative authorization.

For many project initiators, the initial step is elsewhere, in a more informal and discreet way:

- the request for a percentage.
- 20%. Sometimes up to 30%.

A percentage is requested even before the project really exists.

According to some information, one portion would be intended for institutions (ministeries, local administrations...), another for "facilitators" and the last for the one who attracted the investor.

A practice rarely written, but widely known The scene repeats itself, almost identical, regardless of the sector or province.

An investor arrives with a project: agriculture, real estate, mining, energy, technology, NGO, local SME.

Very quickly, a sentence falls, often presented as friendly advice: "Here, we must provide for the local share. ”

This "share" is generally not:

- nor legally defined,
- nor linked to a financial contribution,
- nor conditional on measurable results.

However, it is presented as essential:

- to “facilitate”,
- to "avoid blockages",
- to "secure the project",
- to “respect the realities of the field”.

Partnership or disguised predation?

In this disapproved practice, the rate requested is often based on:

- presumed access to leaders,
- the ability to "solve" situations,
- an unofficial influence,
- or simply a position of local authority.

The project is therefore considered as a source of income to be seized, rather than as a company to be developed.

A silence with heavy consequences

There are few investors who publicly criticize this practice. Why?

- fear of administrative reprisals,
- fear of an interruption of the project,
- desire to "not create waves",
- hope that the concern will end following the settlement.

This silence has a price:

- projects abandoned without announcement,
- non-recoverable funds,
- jobs that will never be created,
- an image of the country permanently weakened internationally.

The real questions that every conscious and patriotic Congolese should ask themselves are:

"Do investors have an obligation to give something?” Yes, that's what the law requires.

"Do they offer to build, or to claim the right to exist? ”

"Should the people survive thanks to the project, or should it be a source of illicit profits for the leaders? ”

As long as this confusion persists, development will remain a mirage for the Congolese population.

To be continued in the next article: What "facilitation" hides: anatomy of a shapeless system.
 
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