AVZ Discussion 2022

Sangster

Regular
Is anyone expecting a deal to be announced in conjunction with the signing of the peace deal this week? It would be on brand for the current US administration and their very short attention span / news cycle
No not expecting anything like that. The only thing anyone should expect is to stay in their jobs until at least the end of June 2026.

If an offer is put to shareholders as a result of the current 3 month ICSID suspension we likely won't hear about it until the end of February next year. This is because there are multiple parties which may or may not make an offer and you don't close an auction early. Manono does not have a buy it now button.

If a reasonable offer is made the board has said it will take another 3 to 4 months to put it to a vote and implement the sale if the vote passes. Then everyone should expect some unexpected shitfuckery that will delay things. That's just how life goes.

So put this aside, enjoy the holiday break, and put in some overtime in your jobs next January. The overtime money will be in your pocket long before anything from this investment.

I only say this for everyone's own good. Unwarranted excitement results in disappointment and desperation which can and will be exploited by our enemies.
 
  • Like
  • Fire
Reactions: 9 users

Sangster

Regular
  • Haha
Reactions: 4 users

JNRB

Regular
No not expecting anything like that. The only thing anyone should expect is to stay in their jobs until at least the end of June 2026.

If an offer is put to shareholders as a result of the current 3 month ICSID suspension we likely won't hear about it until the end of February next year. This is because there are multiple parties which may or may not make an offer and you don't close an auction early. Manono does not have a buy it now button.

If a reasonable offer is made the board has said it will take another 3 to 4 months to put it to a vote and implement the sale if the vote passes. Then everyone should expect some unexpected shitfuckery that will delay things. That's just how life goes.

So put this aside, enjoy the holiday break, and put in some overtime in your jobs next January. The overtime money will be in your pocket long before anything from this investment.

I only say this for everyone's own good. Unwarranted excitement results in disappointment and desperation which can and will be exploited by our enemies.
"Manono does not have a buy it now button"

Umm, yes, last I checked it was the one with the big "$12/share" sign on it
 
  • Like
  • Haha
  • Fire
Reactions: 12 users

Hudnut

Regular
  • Haha
Reactions: 4 users

SilentOne

Regular
1764767626775.png


 
  • Like
Reactions: 6 users

Sangster

Regular
"Manono does not have a buy it now button"

Umm, yes, last I checked it was the one with the big "$12/share" sign on it
Use discount code : FCKZJN
 
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: 9 users

Jongo

Regular
Lets hope that the fat fukker does not say anything to annoy Trump, noting that the South Africa president meeting with Trump did not end well. However, in this case the DRC has something that the USA wants and hence, maybe Trump will be more accommodating.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4 users

Seaworthy

Member
'The ceremonial signing at 11 AM EST on December 4, 2025, corresponds to 2 AM AEST on December 5, 2025' ... thank fuck, I can finally stop asking Grok 'When will the US-backed DRC-Rwanda peace agreement be signed?' ... hopefully
 
  • Like
  • Haha
Reactions: 11 users
'The ceremonial signing at 11 AM EST on December 4, 2025, corresponds to 2 AM AEST on December 5, 2025' ... thank fuck, I can finally stop asking Grok 'When will the US-backed DRC-Rwanda peace agreement be signed?' ... hopefully
Nah 3am Melbourne time, daylight savings
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users

cruiser51

Top 20
Washington, D.C., United StatesAs of December 4, 2025,
Félix Tshisekedi, President of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, is in Washington, D.C., for a high-profile diplomatic visit. He is scheduled to sign a landmark peace agreement with Rwandan President Paul Kagame, brokered by the United States, to address ongoing conflicts in eastern DRC involving the M23 rebels and Rwandan involvement. The signing ceremony is set for today, December 4, and will also include Kenyan President William Ruto as a witness.This follows announcements from Tshisekedi's spokesperson, Tina Salama, and multiple diplomatic sources confirming his travel from Kinshasa for the event. Recent social media updates from official accounts and journalists indicate his delegation has arrived, emphasizing the deal's focus on troop withdrawals, rebel disarmament, and regional stability.His official residence remains in Kinshasa, DRC, but he is currently based in Washington for this summit.


Washington, D.C., United StatesAs of December 4, 2025,
Paul Kagame, President of Rwanda, is in Washington, D.C., for a high-profile diplomatic visit. He arrived on December 3 and is scheduled to sign a landmark peace agreement with DRC President Félix Tshisekedi, brokered by the United States under President Donald Trump, addressing eastern DRC conflicts, M23 rebels, and regional tensions. The ceremony is set for today at the White House, with Kenyan President William Ruto as a witness.This is confirmed by recent announcements from the Rwandan presidency, diplomatic reports, and real-time social media updates from journalists and official channels, highlighting troop withdrawals, disarmament, and economic integration.His official residence is in Kigali, Rwanda, but he is currently in Washington for this summit.

I hope Grok got it right
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 users

cruiser51

Top 20
Lets hope that the fat fukker does not say anything to annoy Trump, noting that the South Africa president meeting with Trump did not end well. However, in this case the DRC has something that the USA wants and hence, maybe Trump will be more accommodating.
Let's hope he does.

Something like 'would you like a pizza?'
 
  • Haha
Reactions: 3 users
  • Like
Reactions: 2 users
Screenshot_20251204_195538_Samsung Internet.jpg
 
  • Like
  • Love
  • Haha
Reactions: 12 users

Flight996

Regular
Here is the full text article courtesy of Reuters.
However, it does not say anything we didn't already know, so feel free to simply scroll on.

Trump hosts Congo, Rwanda leaders in latest push for peace

By Trevor Hunnicutt

December 4, 2025 11:13 AM UTC

WASHINGTON, Dec 4 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump will bring leaders of the Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda together in Washington on Thursday to sign new deals aimed at stabilizing a war-scarred region and attracting Western mining investment.

Rwandan President Paul Kagame and Democratic Republic of Congo President Felix Tshisekedi are expected to pledge their commitment to an economic integration compact already agreed to last month, as well as a U.S.-brokered peace deal reached in June but still not implemented.

Analysts say U.S. diplomacy has paused escalation of fighting in eastern Congo but has failed to resolve core issues. The M23 rebel group, supported by Rwanda, seized the two largest cities in eastern Congo earlier this year in a lightning advance that raised fears of a wider war.

Trump has been eager to burnish his diplomatic credentials. Since taking office in January, his administration has intervened in conflicts from the Middle East to Ukraine and beyond. Those efforts have generated mixed results, including a deal in Gaza and criticism that the president should focus on rising discontent domestically with his handling of cost-of-living issues.

Ahead of the meeting, the president's name was added to a sign outside the United States Institute of Peace, a government-founded nonprofit his administration tried to seize control of earlier this year. The deal is expected to be signed at the institute.

The agreement, however, may not immediately change the humanitarian crisis on the ground.

In dueling statements on Tuesday, Congo's army and M23 rebels accused each other of violating existing ceasefire agreements that were renewed last month. At a news conference in Washington on Wednesday, Congolese official Patrick Muyaya blamed M23 for recent fighting and said it was "proof that Rwanda doesn’t want peace."

M23 is not expected to attend the Washington meeting. It is also not bound by the terms of any Congo-Rwanda agreement.

"The U.S., in particular, has been successful in at least putting a pin in the conflict so it doesn't continue to escalate," said Jason Stearns, a regional expert and associate professor at Canada’s Simon Fraser University. "All they've done, really, is put a pin in it, and the core issues have not been resolved. And it doesn't look like they're getting much closer to being resolved."

Rwanda denies backing M23. Kigali has said its own forces have acted in self-defense against ethnic Hutu militiamen linked to the 1994 Rwandan genocide. A group of United Nations experts said in a July report that Rwanda exercises command and control over the rebels.

M23 says it's fighting to protect ethnic Tutsi communities in eastern Congo. The rebel group's advances mark the latest episode in an ethnic rivalry in Congo's eastern borderlands with Rwanda, the source of conflict for three decades.

Two devastating wars in the African Great Lakes region between 1996 and 2003 cost millions of lives. The latest cycle of fighting has killed thousands of people and displaced hundreds of thousands more.

A REGION RICH IN MINERALS

The Trump administration has discussed facilitating billions of dollars of Western investment in a region rich in tantalum, tin, tungsten, gold, cobalt, copper, lithium and other minerals. Washington is scrambling globally to secure its access to critical minerals controlled by its rival, China.

Under the Trump-backed agreement, Congo would need to crack down on an armed group opposed to M23, the Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR). Rwanda would need to withdraw its forces from Congo. Little apparent progress has been made toward either pledge since the agreement was signed in June.

"We hope that, after the signing, we will see improvement on the ground," said Rwandan Foreign Minister Olivier Nduhungirehe, in an interview with Reuters on Wednesday.

Cheers
F
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5 users

Shire

Regular
IMG_2737.jpeg
Donald: ‘You’re doing it wrong Felix you idiot’.
 
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: 17 users

Bonsoir

Regular
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: 4 users

Jongo

Regular
Finally both the peace and econmic deals are signed, the Washington Accords. Thankfully there were no arguments with Trump like there were when the South African president visited Washington DC. I just finished watching each of the speeches from the three presidents and I did not note any major issues.

The next few weeks will be very interesting, noting again that at the AGM Nigel said that he is hoping to have an acceptable deal sorted this year. Hence, hopefully we will see at least an outline of the deal with an MOU sometime in the next few weeks.
 
  • Like
  • Thinking
Reactions: 19 users

Flight996

Regular
Haha

"Here's the crayon you requested Mr Tshisekedi"

1764882931312.png
 
  • Haha
  • Like
  • Fire
Reactions: 17 users
Top Bottom