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tolate

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Why don’t you quote the full Announcement? This is straight from the Company too!!!!!!

I KNOW the reason why you don’t…LMAO!! imo Because it’s contents don’t suit your agenda….LMAO imo

We all read this on July 21st, seems once again you’re only just coming up to speed, and only reading the first paragraph

But for the trolls, here is the full announcement AGAIN, and I’ve highlighted the paragraph in the statement which you cannot seem to comprehend


AVZ Minerals Limited (AVZ or Company) is aware of the signing of a framework agreement between the Government of the Democratic Republic of the Congo (GDRC) and Kobold Metals Company (Kobold) (GDRC Kobold Agreement) which, amongst other things, purports to include a commitment by GDRC and Kobold to develop the southern section of the Manono Lithium and Tin Project (Manono Project).

The Manono Project is the subject of ongoing arbitration proceedings before the International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID) by the Company’s subsidiaries AVZ International Pty Ltd, Green Lithium Holdings Pte Ltd (together the AVZ Parties), and Dathcom Mining SA (Dathcom), in relation to the GDRC’s failure to grant an exploitation permit or mining permit (PE) to Dathcom in respect of the land the subject of PR 13359 (ICSID Case No. ARB/23/20).

It will be recalled that on 16 January 2024, the ICSID tribunal made interim orders, pursuant to Procedural Order no. 3 (PO3), to the effect that GDRC take necessary steps to reflect that Dathcom is the holder of PR 13359, and to protect the AVZ Parties rights during the pendency of the proceedings.

Specifically, PO3 required that Dathcom be re-established as holder of PR 13359, currently being converted into an operating permit, on the perimeter mentioned in article 2 of ministerial order no. 0921/CAB.MIN/MINES/01/2016 of December 28, 2016, but excluding the perimeter covered by PR 15775 and reflects the same area purported to be developed under the GDRC Kobold Agreement.

On 24 June 2025, the AVZ Parties and Dathcom filed a supplemental application seeking a new order against GDRC with respect to their continued non compliance with PO3, and on 18 July 2025, informed the ICSID Tribunal of the GDRC Kobold Agreement which is a breach of PO3.

Whilst AVZ was not involved in the drafting nor is a party to the GDRC Kobold Agreement, it remains open to constructive dialogue with the parties, to agree a suitable commercial outcome for AVZ shareholders, where its legal rights and existing commercial relationships are respected.

The Company confirms that discussions continue with various parties including Kobold, who wish to advance the development of the Manono Project to better balance global lithium supply chains, benefiting all stakeholders, not least the people of the DRC.

Should these discussions result in any binding commitment, then the Company will appropriately advise its shareholders at that time.
Well you done that...!
The rest is HEARSAY SPECULATION, but this section has issues for AVZ S H ...IMO
I'm glad you admitted NIGEL POSTED IT though...!
The DRC has shown their intentions haven't they now....You are aware of that also...!
AVZ Minerals Limited (AVZ or Company) is aware of the signing of a framework agreement between the Government of the Democratic Republic of the Congo (GDRC) and Kobold Metals Company (Kobold) (GDRC Kobold Agreement) which, amongst other things, purports to include a commitment by GDRC and Kobold to develop the southern section of the Manono Lithium and Tin Project (Manono Project).
 

Shire

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Well it seems it's all stalled again.
Kagame has infiltrated talks and there is quite a hurdle to overcome before any money exchanges hands between AVZ and the successful party, IF AT ALL..
That's right.. it's back to the drawing board from face value, hopefully I'm wrong.
For those following the various X posts about prices being bantered around on what it's all worth versus what we'll be compensated for, there's a method to the madness.. At the moment, it's cents on the dollar and the chances of going higher is difficult to navigate.
The ICSID path although the correct way forward, won't extract any better value that what it's legitimately worth. There's no way the DRC can or will pay it. If Kobold don't end up buying it and the peace talks fall over, some other country is coming under the table ready to go.
My other concern is the recent public language used by CAMI about retracting of mining rights being issued. Wonder if the weasels will work out a way to screw around with Manono, it's tailings and the surrounding exploration licenses...

Aug 21 is still critical.
What a shitshow
What is the’hurdle’ you are referring to?
 
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tolate

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What is the’hurdle’ you are referring to?
We are on the right path, as I said we signed the peace agreement, we have already had the meeting of the committee which is responsible for monitoring and we are impatiently awaiting the next meetings in Doha between the Democratic Republic of Congo and the M23 group.
 

Remark

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Wow, for a second there I thought you'd written a complete, legible sentence. Then I realised you did the cut & paste thing again.

I'm terribly disappointed in you Lenny.
 
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U.S.-DRC Mineral Partnership Information Session - Live Stream.

Join us in Washington, D.C., for a pivotal gathering at the U.S.-DRC Mineral Partnership Information Session, scheduled for August 21, 2025. This high-level information session aims to foster collaboration between the United States and the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) in the mineral sector, which plays a crucial role in both economies and global supply chains. The event is being hosted by Von Batten-Montague-York, L.C., and is sponsored by Sokam Holding Sarl of the Democratic Republic of Congo.

All persons who are unable to attend the event in person but will be watching the live stream on YouTube are advised to send their questions to renee.hamilton@montagueyork.com no later than August 20th at PM ET.
 
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tolate

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Just in case some have not READ this company ANN...!...:cry:

Clearly NIGEL
 

tolate

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Just in case some have not READ this company ANN...!...:cry:

Clearly NIGEL
Sorry a bit of a mistake here is a couple of paragraphs..!
Bottom line SHOULD THESES DISCUSSIONS RESULT IN..................>>>>>>>>>>>>

Whilst AVZ was not involved in the drafting nor is a party to the GDRC Kobold Agreement, it remains open to constructive dialogue with the parties, to agree a suitable commercial outcome for AVZ shareholders, where its legal rights and existing commercial relationships are respected.

The Company confirms that discussions continue with various parties including Kobold, who wish to advance the development of the Manono Project to better balance global lithium supply chains, benefiting all stakeholders, not least the people of the DRC.

"""""""""Should these discussions result in any binding commitment, then the Company will appropriately advise its shareholders at that time.""""""
 

tolate

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LOOKS LIKE KOBOLD moving on..!! 18 AUGUST 20025 update

At the center of attention is the Manono lithium deposit in Tanganyika province, considered one of the world’s largest untapped reserves.

KoBold Metals intends to invest over $1 billion in the project, with promises to create jobs for Congolese communities while exporting lithium to global markets.

KoBold is currently applying for an exploration permit, which requires a cadastral review and draft decree before final approval by the Minister of Mines.

However, Popol Mabolia, Director General of CAMI, cautioned on August 7 that the process could take up to 60 days, emphasizing that no final decision has been made.
 

Flight996

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I hope security does a bag search on 22 August in Washington.


Rebels armed with machetes kill at least 52 in eastern Congo

By Reuters

August 18, 2025 6:06 PM UTC · Updated ago

KINSHASA, Aug 18 (Reuters) - Islamic State-backed rebels armed with machetes and hoes have killed at least 52 civilians in the Beni and Lubero areas of eastern Democratic Republic of Congo in recent days, UN and local officials said.

The Allied Democratic Forces (ADF) rebels were taking revenge on civilians after suffering defeats by Congolese forces, Lieutenant Elongo Kyondwa Marc, a regional Congolese army spokesperson, said.

"When they arrived, they first woke the residents, gathered them in one place, tied them up with ropes, and then began to massacre them with machetes and hoes," Macaire Sivikunula, chief of Lubero's Bapere sector, told Reuters over the weekend.

About 30 civilians were killed in the village of Melia alone, Alain Kiwewe, a military administrator for the Lubero territory, told Reuters.

"Among the victims were children and women whose throats were slit in their homes, while several houses were set on fire," he said.

The United Nations Organization Stabilization Mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (MONUSCO) condemned "in the strongest possible terms" the attacks by the ADF between August 9 and 16, the mission's spokesperson said on Monday.

The attacks killed at least 52 civilians, including eight women and two children, and the toll could rise as the search is ongoing, the spokesperson said.

The ADF is among several militias wrangling over land and resources in Congo's mineral-rich east.

Congo's army and its ally, Uganda, have intensified operations against the ADF in recent weeks.

In late July, ADF rebels killed 38 people in an attack on a church in eastern Congo.
 
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And there's this...


Congo and M23 rebels miss deadline to reach Doha peace deal

Reuters, August 18, 2025 4:20 PM

KINSHASA, Aug 18 (Reuters) - The Congolese government and M23 rebels have missed Monday's deadline to reach a peace agreement in Doha, raising fears that tensions between the two parties might derail talks and reverse progress made to end the conflict.

Fighting in eastern Congo has intensified this year, with the M23 group launching an offensive that allowed it to capture the two largest cities in the region.

Under a mediation effort hosted by Qatar, Congo and the rebels signed a declaration of principles on July 19 in which they vowed to start negotiating a deal no later than August 8 with the goal of reaching it by August 18.

The AFC-M23 Movement said in a statement on Sunday that only the full implementation of the declaration of principles, which includes the release of prisoners, would enable the next round of talks to proceed.

A senior AFC source said on Monday that while rebels didn't expect significant progress from the talks, they would send a small delegation in the coming days due to Qatar's pressure as negotiators.

"Our delegation will simply reinforce the need to implement these measures before we can engage in negotiations," the source said.

A governmental source said authorities had received a draft agreement from the mediation team, and both parties are working on their comments before delegates return to Doha later this week.

It added that the release of prisoners is a complicated prerequisite because it can be a subject of negotiations rather than a condition to continue talks.

A Qatari official told Reuters on Sunday that while the timeline outlined in the declaration of principles had not been met, both parties expressed a willingness to continue negotiations.
 
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FatCatz

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Referring to my post?

I’m not a troll man. Long term sufferer just like everyone else here.

Holding out hope we get paid by years end as a nice Xmas bonus but we will see. Maybe we go mining 😂
 
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Xerof

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Referring to my post?

I’m not a troll man. Long term sufferer just like everyone else here.

Holding out hope we get paid by years end as a nice Xmas bonus but we will see. Maybe we go mining 😂
No, our posts went up at the same time. I was referring wino to Timb89’s post
 
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Posted by Cobberoonski this morning on the other site:

Holders, take comfort in the AVZ tight ship that has seen deafening silence since Nige’s The Australian advertorial - negotiations are no doubt ongoing.

Haven’t seen it mentioned here yet, but the US-DRC Mineral Partnership information session set down for August 21 is another sign that the US are hellbent on getting their mitts on DRC minerals as agreed.

Kobold have been given the green light by Felix to proceed with Roche Dure if AVZ is left in the rear view mirror. All we are waiting on is an agreed price…a price that reflects
- the AVZ investment so far
- the lost future earnings of our 75% stake in Roche Dure
- the lost future earnings of our 75% stake in CDL that was stolen/swindled by the DRC & the Chinese
- the lost future earnings of the 15% stake in Manono under the right of first refusal deal we held that the Zijin crooks illegally acquired from Cominiere
- accrued awards handed down by the international courts to date
- payment to Dathomir of the $20million stolen from the Rawbank escrow account due to the DRC’s blind-eye turning to the most basic of financial oversight obligations
- coverage of AVZ legal fees incurred due to the criminal withholding of the issue of our legally-obtained mining permit
- compensation for lost earnings as we’d have been mining & selling lithium by now but for the Chinese-sponsored DRC corruption of the past few years

These are the dollars Kobold need to come up with, minus a small-medium goodwill discount for getting AVZ the hell away from the DRC & the Chinese.

This information session has “experts” on hand from the DRC & the US who are there to answer questions on all aspects of the US-DRC Mineral Partnership, including questions about such topics as existing flaws in the DRC regulatory framework & potential joint US-DRC investment opportunities. There is a link to fire in questions to the panel, & I’d encourage holders to send in pointed but respectful questions about the poor treatment of AVZ & questions about a progress update on the Kobold buyout of AVZ’s Manono interests.

The US has already made huge strides holding up their part of the deal. They have already been free in highlighting concerns about DRC corruption, & I think the US panel members will be under strict instructions to grandstand about what the US will take the DRC from, & what they plan to turn it into as far as tolerance for corruption is concerned.

Never lose sight of where we were just a few months back (all our eggs in the ICSID/ICC basket), & all that has gone on in the intervening period. And even just a few months earlier, before Locke or CATL funding news, to when even financing our international court cases looked grim. Plenty has happened in a hurry, & knowing how the Don likes not to cock around fixing things, & knowing how he desperately needs a political win, this information session may well see an announcement about a Kobold syndicate buyout of AVZ.

Make it happen Don.

GLTAH, & a huge thanks to those keeping the trolls in line - it really is tedious work.
 
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tolate

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And there's this...


Congo and M23 rebels miss deadline to reach Doha peace deal

Reuters, August 18, 2025 4:20 PM

KINSHASA, Aug 18 (Reuters) - The Congolese government and M23 rebels have missed Monday's deadline to reach a peace agreement in Doha, raising fears that tensions between the two parties might derail talks and reverse progress made to end the conflict.

Fighting in eastern Congo has intensified this year, with the M23 group launching an offensive that allowed it to capture the two largest cities in the region.

Under a mediation effort hosted by Qatar, Congo and the rebels signed a declaration of principles on July 19 in which they vowed to start negotiating a deal no later than August 8 with the goal of reaching it by August 18.

The AFC-M23 Movement said in a statement on Sunday that only the full implementation of the declaration of principles, which includes the release of prisoners, would enable the next round of talks to proceed.

A senior AFC source said on Monday that while rebels didn't expect significant progress from the talks, they would send a small delegation in the coming days due to Qatar's pressure as negotiators.

"Our delegation will simply reinforce the need to implement these measures before we can engage in negotiations," the source said.

A governmental source said authorities had received a draft agreement from the mediation team, and both parties are working on their comments before delegates return to Doha later this week.

It added that the release of prisoners is a complicated prerequisite because it can be a subject of negotiations rather than a condition to continue talks.

A Qatari official told Reuters on Sunday that while the timeline outlined in the declaration of principles had not been met, both parties expressed a willingness to continue negotiations.
Until M23 move out of the DRC, nothing will change for AVZ...imo
 

Bin59

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Posted by Cobbernoski this morning on the other site:

Holders, take comfort in the AVZ tight ship that has seen deafening silence since Nige’s The Australian advertorial - negotiations are no doubt ongoing.

Haven’t seen it mentioned here yet, but the US-DRC Mineral Partnership information session set down for August 21 is another sign that the US are hellbent on getting their mitts on DRC minerals as agreed.

Kobold have been given the green light by Felix to proceed with Roche Dure if AVZ is left in the rear view mirror. All we are waiting on is an agreed price…a price that reflects
- the AVZ investment so far
- the lost future earnings of our 75% stake in Roche Dure
- the lost future earnings of our 75% stake in CDL that was stolen/swindled by the DRC & the Chinese
- the lost future earnings of the 15% stake in Manono under the right of first refusal deal we held that the Zijin crooks illegally acquired from Cominiere
- accrued awards handed down by the international courts to date
- payment to Dathomir of the $20million stolen from the Rawbank escrow account due to the DRC’s blind-eye turning to the most basic of financial oversight obligations
- coverage of AVZ legal fees incurred due to the criminal withholding of the issue of our legally-obtained mining permit
- compensation for lost earnings as we’d have been mining & selling lithium by now but for the Chinese-sponsored DRC corruption of the past few years

These are the dollars Kobold need to come up with, minus a small-medium goodwill discount for getting AVZ the hell away from the DRC & the Chinese.

This information session has “experts” on hand from the DRC & the US who are there to answer questions on all aspects of the US-DRC Mineral Partnership, including questions about such topics as existing flaws in the DRC regulatory framework & potential joint US-DRC investment opportunities. There is a link to fire in questions to the panel, & I’d encourage holders to send in pointed but respectful questions about the poor treatment of AVZ & questions about a progress update on the Kobold buyout of AVZ’s Manono interests.

The US has already made huge strides holding up their part of the deal. They have already been free in highlighting concerns about DRC corruption, & I think the US panel members will be under strict instructions to grandstand about what the US will take the DRC from, & what they plan to turn it into as far as tolerance for corruption is concerned.

Never lose sight of where we were just a few months back (all our eggs in the ICSID/ICC basket), & all that has gone on in the intervening period. And even just a few months earlier, before Locke or CATL funding news, to when even financing our international court cases looked grim. Plenty has happened in a hurry, & knowing how the Don likes not to cock around fixing things, & knowing how he desperately needs a political win, this information session may well see an announcement about a Kobold syndicate buyout of AVZ.

Make it happen Don.

GLTAH, & a huge thanks to those keeping the trolls in line - it really is tedious work.
All persons who are unable to attend the event in person but will be watching the live stream on YouTube are advised to send their questions to renee.hamilton@montagueyork.com no later than August 20th at PM ET.
 
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Until M23 move out of the DRC, nothing will change for AVZ...imo
M23 or not… the WHEELS are still TURNING for AVZ…!
Court wins and DEAL talks don’t stop for boots on the ground in the interest of S H …! imo..!!
 
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Remark

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Sounding a little bit bipolar there Lenny. Arguing with yourself is not a good look.
 
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I think you're wrong @Remark, there's nothing wrong with Lenny, he is a valued poster here with awesome research & English skills
 
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