AVZ Discussion 2022

[Pokok]

So in reading all of the above it seems we could have to wait up to 3 months to have the minerals deal signed. We are definately moving in the right direction i guess but shit another 3 months is gunna be tough to handle

3 months I don't think so , 6 months would be closer if we are lucky sign this sign that well fuck that , just a pack of show ponies the lot of them

 

[Strongman]

3 months I don't think so , 6 months would be closer if we are lucky sign this sign that well fuck that , just a pack of show ponies the lot of them

Yeah this below taken from the Reuters article

There is an understanding that progress in ongoing talks in Doha - a separate but parallel mediation effort with delegations from the Congolese government and M23 - is essential before the signing of the economic framework, the source said.

This really is an unknown. From memory it has previously been mentioned that the talks in Doha had stalled.

 

[Strongman]

Yeah this below taken from the Reuters article

There is an understanding that progress in ongoing talks in Doha - a separate but parallel mediation effort with delegations from the Congolese government and M23 - is essential before the signing of the economic framework, the source said.

This really is an unknown. From memory it has previously been mentioned that the talks in Doha had stalled.

Further to my previous post i have gone back and reread the Kobold press release re sales agreement and the subsequent AVZ announcement and it does not definitively state that the finalising of the agreement is beholden to the peace accord and minerals deal being signed and in fact it could be construed to say the sale is a part of and supportive of the process itself
Either way given Cominieres ,Cami, minister for mines et al refusal to engage with AVZ an executive order by Felix will be required to finalise the deal. Regardless of the Geopolitical situation Felix has got AVZ hot on his arse with the ICSID case. I think the pending trial date is probably the most important thing. Previously was 2nd June but now unknown ??

 

[Xerof]

I queried Amovatio’s HotCrapper comment about AVZ filing an adjunct at ISCID, but before he could reply I found this was what he’s talking about

Anyone have any ideas on what it may be about??


For context, this was what Procedural Order No 3 contained

https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...+AVZ+Successful+in+ICSID+Interim+Measures.pdf

Followed up a few months later by Procedural Order No 4

https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...1715509995763/20240512+Arbitration+Update.pdf

 

[Skar]

Further to my previous post i have gone back and reread the Kobold press release re sales agreement and the subsequent AVZ announcement and it does not definitively state that the finalising of the agreement is beholden to the peace accord and minerals deal being signed and in fact it could be construed to say the sale is a part of and supportive of the process itself
Either way given Cominieres ,Cami, minister for mines et al refusal to engage with AVZ an executive order by Felix will be required to finalise the deal. Regardless of the Geopolitical situation Felix has got AVZ hot on his arse with the ICSID case. I think the pending trial date is probably the most important thing. Previously was 2nd June but now unknown ??

Now that the peace deal is in place and factoring how hostile DRC is to AVZ, 1-2 years in court to prove our rights all while massive investment pours into the DRC to derisk the area, kind of aligns much better for a competitive sale process over the current super secret "you cant know the details take this offer its your last chance" type of sale.

 

[Jongo]

Haha, Felix-the-corrupt attending a humanitarian conference with his arch-enemy, Rwanda's president Paul Kagame.

I'm glad it's after the signing of the peace accord, because it could get interesting once they've had a few.

DRC • Macron plans a major humanitarian conference - 27/06/2025 - Africa Intelligence

French diplomacy is working on holding a conference on 25 July to address the humanitarian crisis in eastern DRC. Emmanuel Macron hopes to invite Rwandan President Paul Kagame and Congolese President - 6/27/2025

www.africaintelligence.com

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Why does Macron need to get involved?
Best that he stays out of the DRC issues as from what I have seen lately, he is incompetent.

 

[Panther22]

Are we losing pages again?

 

[Xerof]

Are we losing pages again?

Just a few posts by people who Zeeb0t has banned and/or contributors working on tidying up their own posts. All under control, as there is no reporting functionality currently

 

[Bin59]

Here’s the full details of the Peace Agreement posted on the US governments website 27/6/25 (if you see “technical difficulties” the link still works)

Technical Difficulties

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

https://x.com/AugustCohen4/status/1938721103758926309?s=19

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Kobold mouthpiece, by referring to AU, is saying “you’ll get what you get”, imo.

 

[Xerof]

Kobold mouthpiece, by referring to AU, is saying “you’ll get what you get”, imo.

AU refers to the African Union, AFAIK

 

[BenGriffo]

Kobold mouthpiece, by referring to AU, is saying “you’ll get what you get”, imo.

I read it as referring to the African Union

 

[BenGriffo]

AU refers to the African Union, AFAIK

 

[Hudnut]

I suspect that the DRC president went to China to seek help against the rebels couple of years ago, and he sold us out to the Chinese. But once the Chinese got what the wanted they did not help solving the rebels problem, so he had to run to the Americans. We were fk by the Chinese, now are we fk by the Americans? We are no longer allies, we are just friends with benefits?

Nations don't have friends. They have Interests.

 

[Skar]

AU refers to the African Union, AFAIK

Well it sure as shit isn't referring to the Australian Government they have done absolutely fuck all for us and don't enter into the equation ... except to pillage us on an unfavorable taxation ruling if we ever do get a decent settlement.

Nations don't have friends.

They are forged in times of war not peace. ANZAC, Fuzzy Wuzzies, etc... nothing like a common enemy to bring friends together.

 

[Retrobyte]

Nations don't have friends. They have Interests.

some have daddies

 

[BEISHA]

Nice find @cruiser51 ....great article, everybody should read that

Resource governance scholars have observed that "license revocations increased 300% since the 2020 cobalt boom," suggesting a pattern of state intervention that correlates with rising commodity prices. The DRC Mining Code's Article 71 grants the state broad powers for license revocation, creating inherent uncertainty for international investors.

I wish i knew that stat before we entered suspension !

Bunch of caaaarnts !

 

[BEISHA]

Bottom Line . Will DRC do a deal with Kobold for Roche Dure ?

If the DRC say they hold the legal rights to Manono , what's stopping them from doing a deal with Kobold ?
If the DRC say AVZ do not hold any rights to Manono , what's stopping the DRC doing a deal with Kobold ?
If Kobold know AVZ can lock them out of a deal with the DRC for Roche Dure by taking the DRC to court , what's stopping Kobold from doing a deal with AVZ ?
If AVZ gets paid out by Kobold for a deal done between Kobold and the DRC , what does that have to do with the DRC?

Is this a deal between Kobold and AVZ ? Is it just a case of Kobold offering AVZ the right compensation $$$ for AVZ to drop ICSID/ICC/walk away and allow the DRC and Kobold to do a deal ? ( after peace /security agreement ).

 

[cruiser51]

Well it sure as shit isn't referring to the Australian Government they have done absolutely fuck all for us and don't enter into the equation ... except to pillage us on an unfavorable taxation ruling if we ever do get a decent settlement.


They are forged in times of war not peace. ANZAC, Fuzzy Wuzzies, etc... nothing like a common enemy to bring friends together.

Funny Pong is on her way to Washington, to attend the Quad meeting, which include Rubio on 1/7/25

 

[wombat74]

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What is Kobold really paying AVZ for ? It's paying AVZ to drop legal action and walk away . We can call it something else , but it's f--k off money .