AVZ Discussion 2022
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Exactly. $50.
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Exactly
Amovatio on the crapper:
Your point about the net worth of Bezoz, Gates and Bloomberg is precisely the point I was suggesting why AVZ should be looking at all options to secure the best possible price for Shareholders rather than simply the first group to put an offer forward.
The US has hardly been quiet about the need for critical minerals and rare earths and it will do nearly anything to support countries that will grant it access to these resources that doesn't include China in the supply chain.
I don’t feel the need to discuss price any further as I was buoyed by the announcement released by AVZ that it had in the discussions concerning US investment in the DRC, agreed to a non binding framework with Ko Bold Metals for the purchase of AVZ’s interest in the Manono project. I am certain AVZ is strongly aware of all shareholders interests and concerns, that is why it is considering all avenues to explore a resolution of the current issues.
Without access to these resources from Africa the electronics industry in the US was going to experience a supply shortage in critical and rare earth components. Kobold Metals Company decision to look at purchasing AVZ’s interest in the Manono Project is also very clear because without a balanced supply chain, the future was not looking good for the price of electronics equipment. US investment now holds the key to unlocking the potential to reducing this risk in the supply chain by guaranteeing access to these resources without China influence.
Yes, we have no ownership of land only a title over the tenement of Manono. But our intellectual property is significant. This is definitely something Bill Gates knows a lot about particularly how people pay for licensing.. Bill Gates and his mates are desperate to secure these resources from Africa.
AVZ went to Africa with Shareholder investment on a mission of exploration and discovery.What we uncovered through our exploration works was a behemoth in resources of every kind. If I can draw an analogy in history…. the discovery of Lithium in Africa would be similar to Gold being discovered in Australia back in the 1850's, such will be the impact of mining in the prosperity of the African people.
AVZ is conscious of the broader geopolitical challenges in achieving a resolution in relation to the Manono Project, however it appreciates the opportunity that has emerged to explore a resolution of the current issues relating to the Manono Project, which it will continue to pursue in a constructive and open manner in the best interests of its shareholders and other key stakeholders, including Suzhou CATH Energy Technologies.This to me is not a statement about selling out investors but one of achieving best outcomes for everyone concerned.
I am absolutely certain the Americans will look after their investment interests moving forward with the highest security and agree to pay a fair value to purchase our interests when the peace deal has been signed between the DRC and Rwanda.
In response to a few posts, I have read I am definitely not an Agent and most certainly haven’t lost my mind.I want a resolution to the current issues as much as everyone else that has held shares across the journey.
The Legal process AVZ has started was not the investor crusade we set out for but as shareholders I am sure most are grateful to our Management team and DLA piper Lawyers for their diligence to protect our investment against those that sought to send us broke. Like you I am confident our team will end up with a favourable outcome now that we have solid interest from wealthy western constituents.
Good luck to All and hope someone kicks off the AVZ Investor party to celebrate the resolution when this is all behind us.
Your point about the net worth of Bezoz, Gates and Bloomberg is precisely the point I was suggesting why AVZ should be looking at all options to secure the best possible price for Shareholders rather than simply the first group to put an offer forward.
The US has hardly been quiet about the need for critical minerals and rare earths and it will do nearly anything to support countries that will grant it access to these resources that doesn't include China in the supply chain.
I don’t feel the need to discuss price any further as I was buoyed by the announcement released by AVZ that it had in the discussions concerning US investment in the DRC, agreed to a non binding framework with Ko Bold Metals for the purchase of AVZ’s interest in the Manono project. I am certain AVZ is strongly aware of all shareholders interests and concerns, that is why it is considering all avenues to explore a resolution of the current issues.
Without access to these resources from Africa the electronics industry in the US was going to experience a supply shortage in critical and rare earth components. Kobold Metals Company decision to look at purchasing AVZ’s interest in the Manono Project is also very clear because without a balanced supply chain, the future was not looking good for the price of electronics equipment. US investment now holds the key to unlocking the potential to reducing this risk in the supply chain by guaranteeing access to these resources without China influence.
Yes, we have no ownership of land only a title over the tenement of Manono. But our intellectual property is significant. This is definitely something Bill Gates knows a lot about particularly how people pay for licensing.. Bill Gates and his mates are desperate to secure these resources from Africa.
AVZ went to Africa with Shareholder investment on a mission of exploration and discovery.What we uncovered through our exploration works was a behemoth in resources of every kind. If I can draw an analogy in history…. the discovery of Lithium in Africa would be similar to Gold being discovered in Australia back in the 1850's, such will be the impact of mining in the prosperity of the African people.
AVZ is conscious of the broader geopolitical challenges in achieving a resolution in relation to the Manono Project, however it appreciates the opportunity that has emerged to explore a resolution of the current issues relating to the Manono Project, which it will continue to pursue in a constructive and open manner in the best interests of its shareholders and other key stakeholders, including Suzhou CATH Energy Technologies.This to me is not a statement about selling out investors but one of achieving best outcomes for everyone concerned.
I am absolutely certain the Americans will look after their investment interests moving forward with the highest security and agree to pay a fair value to purchase our interests when the peace deal has been signed between the DRC and Rwanda.
In response to a few posts, I have read I am definitely not an Agent and most certainly haven’t lost my mind.I want a resolution to the current issues as much as everyone else that has held shares across the journey.
The Legal process AVZ has started was not the investor crusade we set out for but as shareholders I am sure most are grateful to our Management team and DLA piper Lawyers for their diligence to protect our investment against those that sought to send us broke. Like you I am confident our team will end up with a favourable outcome now that we have solid interest from wealthy western constituents.
Good luck to All and hope someone kicks off the AVZ Investor party to celebrate the resolution when this is all behind us.
Samus
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Rechnerhand
Regular
Indeed we are not in the same boat and when we are sitting in different roles/functions there ... there will be some boys and girls who not just write about a fair value but will agree or disagree to an offer ... and their GO or NOGO is then binding for the rest of the boat.
With a 40 cent buyout....I would be half a mill under water...as you say @PhatCatz ...Shareholders who bought in higher, deserve at least to get out even....not a cent less after all that debacle...ALL TIME HIGH at 1.36 $ is the lowest price for a $tarting point to negotiate....
everything else can eat dick...
Okay done, point accepted, 12 bucks USD it is, I can live with that. Great to have some concrete rules we can all agree on.
I talked earlier about a few takeover scenarios in my past trading history. Every takeover I experienced started with one bidder and ended up with at least 2 bidders and in some takeover stories even several bidders. and funnily in every bidding war the Chinese made the last and biggest offer. The silence of any Chinese bidder for Manano till now...doesnt mean they aren't lurking. I wouldn't be surprised to see more parties coming to the table....I don't think Kobold are the only bidders.
We don't know if Nigel is communicating with other players...but we know the MOU is not binding...
anything can happen from now....watch out for the Leftfield.
And Kobold knows that as well...they have to offer the right coin to nail it down..
Good luck everybody
Winenut
GO AVZ!!!!
For the record $12….$12….$12!!! is not a meme
It is (and always has been) from it’s inception a genuine “anchoring strategy” within the realm of social media in the potential negotiation of a sale price/value of AVZ shares and any possible influence that might have on actual players and events in the real market.
Yes used from time to time with a level of humour but always the intent was deadly fucking serious
Get it in your heads everyone……everyone…..
$12….$12….$12!!!
$12!!!!!!!!
umm….$US
It is (and always has been) from it’s inception a genuine “anchoring strategy” within the realm of social media in the potential negotiation of a sale price/value of AVZ shares and any possible influence that might have on actual players and events in the real market.
Yes used from time to time with a level of humour but always the intent was deadly fucking serious
Get it in your heads everyone……everyone…..
$12….$12….$12!!!
$12!!!!!!!!
umm….$US
She can't even spell her flamin name correctly.
F I E R Y - not firy ya smelly vaj.
For the record $12….$12….$12!!! is not a memeFor the record $12….$12….$12!!! is not a meme
It is (and always has been) from it’s inception a genuine “anchoring strategy” within the realm of social media in the potential negotiation of a sale price/value of AVZ shares and any possible influence that might have on actual players and events in the real market.
Yes used from time to time with a level of humour but always the intent was deadly fucking serious
Get it in your heads everyone……everyone…..
$12….$12….$12!!!
$12!!!!!!!!
umm….$US
It is (and always has been) from it’s inception a genuine “anchoring strategy” within the realm of social media in the potential negotiation of a sale price/value of AVZ shares and any possible influence that might have on actual players and events in the real market.
Yes used from time to time with a level of humour but always the intent was deadly fucking serious
Get it in your heads everyone……everyone…..
$12….$12….$12!!!
$12!!!!!!!!
umm….$US
Wino and I have both been seriously promoting this price for years.
A few days ago, I gave figures to justify it.
Those figures were conservative for many reasons.
PS mate, do you need to change your handle, or are you leaving all options open?
Frank
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Spikerama
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For the record $12….$12….$12!!! is not a meme
It is (and always has been) from it’s inception a genuine “anchoring strategy” within the realm of social media in the potential negotiation of a sale price/value of AVZ shares and any possible influence that might have on actual players and events in the real market.
Yes used from time to time with a level of humour but always the intent was deadly fucking serious
Get it in your heads everyone……everyone…..
$12….$12….$12!!!
$12!!!!!!!!
umm….$US
I guess what I meant was that is has become a meme. Even though, from what I remember there were actually some serious calculations that ended up at $12.00 per share if you rounded down.
Can't remember if it was your calcs or someone else's Wino. Why don't you remind us again.
$12….$12….$12!!!
USD
Winenut
GO AVZ!!!!
Not sure on the handle questionFor the record $12….$12….$12!!! is not a meme
It is (and always has been) from it’s inception a genuine “anchoring strategy” within the realm of social media in the potential negotiation of a sale price/value of AVZ shares and any possible influence that might have on actual players and events in the real market.
Yes used from time to time with a level of humour but always the intent was deadly fucking serious
Get it in your heads everyone……everyone…..
$12….$12….$12!!!
$12!!!!!!!!
umm….$US
Wino and I have both been seriously promoting this price for years.
A few days ago, I gave figures to justify it.
Those figures were conservative for many reasons.
PS mate, do you need to change your handle, or are you leaving all options open?
Winenut
I like wine
Could have been Steaknut I like steak
Could have been Garfishnut I like Garfish
Could have been Cashewnutnut I like Cashew Nuts
Why would I need to change?
Or have i completely misunderstood your post
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As a long-standing holder, I share the optimism and would of course be happy to be able to draw a line under this soon.
However, I am sceptical about the arguments that are now often cited that other bidders could sweeten our exit or significantly increase earnings per share.
There is no explicit rule in the deal that only allows American bidders. However, the information shows that the US has a strong interest in bringing an American company like Kobold on board. This is due to the geopolitical strategy of limiting China's influence in the DRC's extractive sector. The US government actively promotes such investments, for example through the International Development Finance Corporation (IDFC), which secures US projects in the DRC. This suggests that Kobold has been selected as the preferred bidder - not because others are excluded, but because it is a strategic fit.
Kobold Metals is definitely part of the deal. The framework agreement with AVZ is a central part of the implementation of this agreement between the US and the DRC. Kobold's CEO, Benjamin Katabuka, has emphasised that the investment in Manono is being made with the support of the US government, which underlines the link between Kobold and the US strategic agenda.
Of course, the VEA, China or sonswer could also bid, but then we would be back where we have been for the last few years: we need ICSID arbitration to be able to dispose of our property for a deal of a different kind. Because this is currently disputed from the DRC's point of view.
So there is either a deal with Kobold (however high/low the price of compensation will be) or the ICSID proceedings will continue.
Only once this has been finalised could a deal with another bidder become a reality.
Right?
However, I am sceptical about the arguments that are now often cited that other bidders could sweeten our exit or significantly increase earnings per share.
There is no explicit rule in the deal that only allows American bidders. However, the information shows that the US has a strong interest in bringing an American company like Kobold on board. This is due to the geopolitical strategy of limiting China's influence in the DRC's extractive sector. The US government actively promotes such investments, for example through the International Development Finance Corporation (IDFC), which secures US projects in the DRC. This suggests that Kobold has been selected as the preferred bidder - not because others are excluded, but because it is a strategic fit.
Kobold Metals is definitely part of the deal. The framework agreement with AVZ is a central part of the implementation of this agreement between the US and the DRC. Kobold's CEO, Benjamin Katabuka, has emphasised that the investment in Manono is being made with the support of the US government, which underlines the link between Kobold and the US strategic agenda.
Of course, the VEA, China or sonswer could also bid, but then we would be back where we have been for the last few years: we need ICSID arbitration to be able to dispose of our property for a deal of a different kind. Because this is currently disputed from the DRC's point of view.
So there is either a deal with Kobold (however high/low the price of compensation will be) or the ICSID proceedings will continue.
Only once this has been finalised could a deal with another bidder become a reality.
Right?
Winenut
GO AVZ!!!!
that really isn’t the best post I’ve seen on this forum just quietly…..
and I’ve probably posted some of the pretty ordinary ones myself…
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Spikerama
Regular
I think he means Maj.
Winenut
GO AVZ!!!!
This Maja and the other downrampers of a sell price actually remind me of this carrot dick guy and his gang... I mean, manipulation of opinions is not a Chinese invention, after all. Who knows in which boat they are actually sitting...
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