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It’s embarrassing how this so called journalist is squirming and trying to worm his way out of the court cases coming his way from AVZ, Marius and others…. What a loser
 
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@JAG If the text is breaking funny like that, try reducing the browser size and it should go in two lines. Just need to fiddle with the browser window percentage with CTRL + or - to get it looking sweet.

Anyway the English version now has a preview with description that should work on social. Image is a bit small on twitter but it's the best I can do with my limited knowledge. I will do same for French later.

Scale looks a little bit off on mobile:
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Scale looks a little bit off on mobile:
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Yeah that's not right. It's really hard because I have very limited knowledge of how to do al this but I'm just bumbling my way through it.

I will try figure out some optimisation for mobile.
 
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Yes agree Carlos, odd thing for Klaus to say ; I reckon if AJNs application was withdrawn it would probably suggest that the state was trying to dull down this Cominiere (state) bullshite ; Cominiere accept Zijins offer, use the partitioning to slide the Zijin problem (15%) out of Dathcom and give them the North , which would result also in the 15% going back to cominiere who’d kindly offering it up to AVZ under ROFR 🙄...state owned Cominiere getting 29%..wow all sorted...win win for the incompetent !

obviously not the greatest for AVZ, with North being the antidote....imo the North has clearly been the stalling issue with AVZ claiming they didn't renounce the project, but agreeing to it falling back under an Exploration licence under Dathcom I.e not required to apply for it again.

With the reasoning behind the waiver not actually following the mining code ; I suspect that MoM was trying / hoping to force AVZ to the table and end their fight for the North..MoM I assume that she would have known, from the first mention of this reasoning, knew that it wasn't in line with the mining code....

Nigels response as per your post - paraphrasing -'Nah get fucked cunts you're just making shit up the initial decrees still stand according to the mining code'

Yes agree; the response was with sniper precision I reckon ; I don't think it left MoM with much movement ; it's backed her up into a corner imo..but we can see that's she's made a move outside the code....ive never had an issue with MoM, I considered her an allie ; I've heard before that the Chinese we're putting pressure on her to just take the north..this rolled on to just cancelling Dathoms licence, but she's hardline batted then back everytime......but now it appears that she's to ready to take a few shortcuts and deviate..she could well just be using the excuse that it was only ‘partially’ waivered with an intent to push the stalemate forward and only trying to get parties to the table in order to agree on a resolution so as to move forward with the Manono lithium project and she wasn't acting outside the code....but Dathcoms president NF has taken a clear stance, so it appears we’re at a point where something has got to give / break....will Nigels comment basically saying no legal issues around the split be an angle MoM / CAMi / state will now try and leverage off?

I think we’re at the pointy end now where they won't wanna go to ICC and we need to get this project moving ; AJN application in the bin....at this stage is be happy enough to let Zijin run with the 15% and for Dathcom to pull in the north under exploitation ; Zijin get 15% in a potential 2 billion tonne resource for fuck all and mining codes adhered to; give the DRC an extra 5% and move on....
Klaus was talking about Dathcom (AVZ) withdrawing an application for the north not his company AJN. He was still expecting AJN to get the north and was 'annoyed' by the delays.

I agree we are at the pointy end now. Question is who will blink first. Nigel is playing it correctly imo
 
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Yes agree Carlos, odd thing for Klaus to say ; I reckon if AJNs application was withdrawn it would probably suggest that the state was trying to dull down this Cominiere (state) bullshite ; Cominiere accept Zijins offer, use the partitioning to slide the Zijin problem (15%) out of Dathcom and give them the North , which would result also in the 15% going back to cominiere who’d kindly offering it up to AVZ under ROFR 🙄...state owned Cominiere getting 29%..wow all sorted...win win for the incompetent !

obviously not the greatest for AVZ, with North being the antidote....imo the North has clearly been the stalling issue with AVZ claiming they didn't renounce the project, but agreeing to it falling back under an Exploration licence under Dathcom I.e not required to apply for it again.

With the reasoning behind the waiver not actually following the mining code ; I suspect that MoM was trying / hoping to force AVZ to the table and end their fight for the North..MoM I assume that she would have known, from the first mention of this reasoning, knew that it wasn't in line with the mining code....

Nigels response as per your post - paraphrasing -'Nah get fucked cunts you're just making shit up the initial decrees still stand according to the mining code'

Yes agree; the response was with sniper precision I reckon ; I don't think it left MoM with much movement ; it's backed her up into a corner imo..but we can see that's she's made a move outside the code....ive never had an issue with MoM, I considered her an allie ; I've heard before that the Chinese we're putting pressure on her to just take the north..this rolled on to just cancelling Dathoms licence, but she's hardline batted then back everytime......but now it appears that she's to ready to take a few shortcuts and deviate..she could well just be using the excuse that it was only ‘partially’ waivered with an intent to push the stalemate forward and only trying to get parties to the table in order to agree on a resolution so as to move forward with the Manono lithium project and she wasn't acting outside the code....but Dathcoms president NF has taken a clear stance, so it appears we’re at a point where something has got to give / break....will Nigels comment basically saying no legal issues around the split be an angle MoM / CAMi / state will now try and leverage off?

I think we’re at the pointy end now where they won't wanna go to ICC and we need to get this project moving ; AJN application in the bin....at this stage is be happy enough to let Zijin run with the 15% and for Dathcom to pull in the north under exploitation ; Zijin get 15% in a potential 2 billion tonne resource for fuck all and mining codes adhered to; give the DRC an extra 5% and move on....
Momentum and IGF have bank statements that Zijin have not paid the $33 million and 6 million deposit has disappeared ?
Also video tapes with Zijin admitting to trying to obtain the 15% illegally.
So how is it that Cominiere have now 25 % ownership returned if Zijin still hold 15%
The issues do not stack up for Zijin to hd 15% and blackmail the State that it will not give back the 15% .
If this goes to the ICC they will definitely be exposed as corrupt Minister of Mines would not like to be associated in the corruption.
 
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Yeah that's not right. It's really hard because I have very limited knowledge of how to do al this but I'm just bumbling my way through it.

I will try figure out some optimisation

I just tagged Felix in on LinkedIn. So should
Come up in his feed because we have connected.
😂
 
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The PCA of Zijin who wants the mining Permit of Dathcom ⁦ @AvzMinerals if not its Northern Part to plunder the lithium of the DRC there for the benefit of China as much as he plunders the cobalt and copper of Commus and Kamoa is in Kolwezi where Commus-Zijin violates community rights & laws
 
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I just tagged Felix in on LinkedIn. So should
Come up in his feed because we have connected.
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Would it be better to wait for the French version?
 
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BRICK

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Because Felix is IMPOTENT.
He's a flaccid member of the DRC government.
He's hasn't got the poke required to get things moving.
There's no lead in his pencil so he can't sign anything useful.
He's never had the thrust to remove the corruption from his government.
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I'm impotent and as sure as hell,
I'm gonna look impotent
 
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I reckon that was bullshite and just stating 'higher mica', in order to try and get shareholders thinking that the north didn't really matter because it was full of impurities. The data provided from sampling in carrier back a few years ago now, was showing impressive figures and mica wasn't an issue
Those comments from Nigel made my blood boil. It was at that moment I knew shit was more serious than had been previously portrayed. I absolutely felt like I was being lied to.
 
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Just thinking out loud here.. Is Felix actually guilty of some shady back door decisions himself? Is that why there is no action from him?
Been banging on for months about FT questioning both his honesty and effectiveness.

At end of the day, all this shit is on his watch.
Much of what I ranted about went unremarked on TSE until recently. With a few notable exceptions.

Now you bar stewards are getting angry and really doing shit.

Feel the rage. Feel good?
Onya.

Keep it up.
 
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Tommy has Charterhouse syndrome. His dad wasn't rich enough to send him to Eton and it eats him up inside.
Would that make him a fag both in the British and the American sense?
 
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Mines versus infrastructure: after audit, the IGF exposes how China has fooled the DRC​

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The General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF) made public on Wednesday, February 15, 2023 its audit report on the implementation of the Chinese contract. The Supreme Review Body paints a bleak picture of the implementation of the infrastructure-for-minerals contract concluded between the Democratic Republic of the Congo and China in 2008.
This report comes after calls from civil society and Westerners calling for the contract to be revised. Although the Government has repeatedly expressed its intention to renegotiate this major contract, in practice nothing has yet changed.
Below, in 11 points the main conclusions of the General Inspectorate of Finance:
1. The constitution of SICOMINES in 2008 was carried out in violation of Article 1 of the Royal Decree of 22 June 1926. The share capital not proportionate to the purpose of the company and not indicating the mineral deposits as a contribution from the Congolese party. USD 100,000,000.00 set by the GEC (Chinese Group of Enterprises) was very insufficient and therefore disproportionate to the corporate purpose.
2. No evaluation of the mineral deposits contributed by GECAMINES S.A. has been made and therefore, failure to integrate the value into the share capital: while its minimum consistency was known and listed in Annex A of the Agreement of 22 April 2008 and Annex B of the Joint Venture Agreement of the same date: 10,616,070 t/cu and 629,619 t/co worth USD 90,936,120,000, at the rates on the day of conclusion of the agreement.
3. Arbitrary, discriminatory and illegal nature of the fixing and distribution of the share capital at USD 100,000,000.00 at the rate of 68% of the shares for the GEC and 32% for the Gécamines Group. This capital was set at USD 100,000,000.00 (while SICOMINES held assets of USD 90,936,120,000.00) and it was decided that Chinese companies would have 68% of the shares against 32% for the Congolese side. The Chinese contributed USD 68 million and lent GECAMINES S.A USD 32 million, which it repaid with interest of USD 10,979,566.00 through deductions on its dividends.
4. Significant financial imbalance to the detriment of the DRC between the advantages granted to the Chinese side and the commitments to be borne by it as well as the gains expected by the Congolese side: USD 90,936,120,000.00 to the Chinese against commitments borne by them of USD 6.2 billion, i.e. a gain for the Chinese of USD 84,736,120,000.00 to which must be added the tax and customs exemptions provisionally estimated at the lowest rates at USD 2,163,623,850.15. Even determining the net present value (NPV) based on the elements included in the 2021 Feasibility Study, the NPV is USD 76,573,723,516.28 which constitutes the gain in favor of the Chinese side because the NPV involves the deduction of CAPEX and OPEX from turnover. USD 76 billion gain for the Chinese side against 3 billion infrastructure for the DRC
5. In six years, from 2016 to October 2022, SICOMINES disbursed from one of its overseas accounts, in this case Main Account No. 100001700001077 housed in the books of BANK OF CHINA DUBAI BRANCH, a total amount of USD 9,677,613,625.15 to Chinese companies and itself for various unsubstantiated reasons. Illustrative cases of sales return for USD 1,564,280,538.68, contract payment for USD 1,506,989,864.14 and other debit transactions without giving reason for USD 3,827,943,282.32.
6. Lack of visibility and impact of the work carried out and its unjustified selectivity in violation of Annex C of the Convention of 22 April 2008. Eligible work performed: USD 534,902,461.66 Ineligible work performed: USD 287,287,598.42
7.Glaring weakness and modicity of infrastructure investments: SICOMINES has mobilized, in 14 years, financing totaling USD 4,471,588,685.14 and has allocated only USD 822,190,060.14 for the financing of infrastructure works, i.e. 18.38% of the total financing mobilized
8. Under the terms of the collaboration agreement and the joint venture agreement, the GEC was responsible for mobilizing resources for the financing of mining and infrastructure investments (USD 6.2 billion) for which SICOMINES was to be reimbursed. Instead, it was the SICOMINES Joint Venture that took on debt, to the tune of USD 3,341,948,821.85 to finance both mining and infrastructure investments. But at the same time, she paid herself, from 2016 to October 2022, USD 5,464,880,564.06 in her main account in DUBAI for the benefit of one or more other accounts not yet identified;
9. Failure to repatriate export earnings and fines of 5% due by SICOMINES: Following an erroneous interpretation of the contractual stipulations enshrining the freedom of transfer of funds, SICOMINES did not repatriate export earnings totalling USD 2,004,167,489.24 over the period from 2016 to October 2022. As such, it owes fines of 5%, i.e. USD 100,280,374.46
10. Imbroglio maintained in investment repayment periods This imbroglio was used to reduce the amount of infrastructure investment from USD 6.5 billion to USD 3.0 billion. Article 12 of the Convention provided that during the second period the total reimbursement should not exceed USD 3 billion in principal. It is curious. We probably wanted to delay the repayment and therefore the clearance of the DRC's debt vis-à-vis Chinese investors;
11. Irregular and unjustified payment of 4.8% of the amounts of the works under "Amount to be valued": For all works reported by the Congolese Agency for Major Works (ACGT), these costs amount to USD 37,256,434.59. The legality of such a levy and the destination given to the funds thus collected are problematic. It is therefore probably a way to remunerate oneself in a different way.
 
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Tommy's the one who needs training: How to create, rather than destroy. How to encourage & share wealth creation, while playing a key role in decarbonisation & saving the planet, rather than being a maligning, shorter loser. IMO DYOR. Br Sparrowhawk
He just needs to learn to be a fucking journalist...

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After having failed in his pressure and lobbying against @AvzMinerals with his compatriots Huayou and CATL in order to access Manono's lithium permit, Zijin thinks he has succeeded thanks to Cominiere, Minister of the Portfolio and other commissionaires. Only @fatshi13 will decide

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PR05 @fatshi13 @Presidence_RDC is requested to deliver the Dathcom License from the curse of Cominiere speculators.
@AvzMinerals is the 3rd partner after Global Tin, MMCS1. Global Tin had put lost millions there, MMCS1 unable to work there. Only AVZ develops.
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Mining news magazine going off tap on the bird tonight!
 
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He just needs to learn to be a fucking journalist...

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Dear diary

Today was a good day.. I continued being a fabricating fuckwit hahaha.. god I’m good just ask me. AVZ.. mining.. pfft hahaha not while I’m around. Mum cooked me party pies today since I was such a fucking legend.
Hopefully fairy bread tomorrow.

Your true love.. Tommy
 
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