I’ll privately share with you what I sent to the U.S state department. Not posting it here: not all eyes here are friendly.Now, how to I get the Australian Government interested in this debacle?
How many shareholders is there?Classic... i wonder who will get accidentally shot by him on set?
NNOOO! wait dont answer that ANYONE! you dont want to incriminate yourselves!
Thats why we are having no frills Vegan sausagesI’ll bring a loaf of bread. Sorry it’s all I can afford with money tied up in this for so long….
I'll have mine with extra gluten please JohnThats why we are having no frills Vegan sausages![]()
No need to show offI’ll bring a loaf of bread. Sorry it’s all I can afford with money tied up in this for so long….
No fucking way!! I bet the dogs eat better than that .. .. ..Thats why we are having no frills Vegan sausages![]()
Nigel allegedly said at one of the roadshows that if the DRC government took the tenement off us then we would seek 10b in damages at the ICCIf we get shafted will the legal action we take put further delays on the project ? Would give us some leverage if it does .
My perception is that the longer this problem lasts the weaker AVZ's position becomes. I feel that the DRC Govt. is now getting up steam to be reelected, and they need to shore up support even with corrupt officials. When you add the Chinese influence on the economy these factors diminish the importance of AVZ and Manono. Irrespective of AVZ's legal position ( which may be relatively strong ) the only solution i see is that AVZ needs to do deals with Dathomir and Comminiere. The strategy needs to be 51% of something is better than 75% of nothing.
Dathomir may be the easiest, and if AVZ assign their rights to Cath and they buy out Dathomir's 15% this removes one obstacle. The terms that AVZ has with Cath may include some reimbursement to AVZ on work completed to date. Cath then have 15% plus AVZ sale for 9% gives them the 24% of the project ( AVZ back to 51% ).
By isolating Comminiere with its 20 or 25% ( ? MMCS ) AVZ can remake its offer for the 10 or 15%. AVZ have then shown that in spite of corruption, they have made an attempt to finalise the shareholder issue. This gives the DRC Govt an excuse to support AVZ by overriding Comminiere if they are being obstinate. If that doesn't work they may have to accept Zijin as a partner.
The thrust of this scenario is to get the ML asap and be prepared to compromise. Without the ML AVZ is worth peanuts.
AVZ also has a number of issues to also finalise. The hydro power plant, The dismissal of the outstanding fine and gaol warrant against its Director, the collaboration agreement and the SEZ.
Even if AVZ gets past this ML situation i still see pressure being applied for a takeover of Dathcom. My impression is that Chinese interests already have a strong holding in AVZ. To counteract this block AVZ needs to get more outside support from possible US or Europe corporations.
The next couple of months will be interesting and we can only hope that shareholders get some reward for their investment.
These opinions are my own and i have not relied on any information from any other person or company. Do your own research.
From what I can see ICC rulings mean fuck all and are not enforceableNigel allegedly said at one of the roadshows that if the DRC government took the tenement off us then we would seek 10b in damages at the ICC
My conclusion from that is if we get shafted then the project will go ahead without us
Ok cheers . I thought that would be the case . So it's basically now or never. Court case would take years with no guarantee SH will see any money . F--k that .Nigel allegedly said at one of the roadshows that if the DRC government took the tenement off us then we would seek 10b in damages at the ICC
My conclusion from that is if we get shafted then the project will go ahead without us
Time for legal action is over.If we get shafted will the legal action we take put further delays on the project ? Would give us some leverage if it does .
So, carrots???Thats why we are having no frills Vegan sausages![]()
Wow Thanks for your hard work I will track down a few emails connections and forward a copy to as many as I can. It would also be useful to adapt this a little to simply highlight the corruption and the struggle that AVZ have been through in an attempt to gather support from relevant Australian government agencies. Thanks again Thaz.I spent a little bit of time to put one together:
I just use his words again with the most spotlight on the cancellation part of the license’s not the nothern part. But you are right the cancellation of the decree’s have a impact of the nothern part. But in the end I’m not sure if they got added together automatically in the case all license’s got canceled. When this Klaus cancellations shit isn’t true then of cource the license is one part again. But who knows what cominiere/zijin/klaus negotiate secretly in the dark. Or better who they pay to get what they want.
And you are right about the part the drc want to move with the project forward. But again who knows if they don’t use the violation of the jv contract between dathomir and cominiere to kick us out? The Chinese have massive influence and the usa just started to invest. And of course without avz and giving it the Chinese the project would be running for 3 years already. And it looks like the Chinese have learned to hold the drc tight they have to make better deals with it.
If nigel would be smart….we would never be in this situation. The next few months will show what paths we still can gohe reports
fuck you're rightshould you guys be talking about this in PM instead?
I wouldn't be surprised if Tom and other dodgy fks read this forum. Much better if he doesn't get a heads up.