AVZ Discussion 2022

[wombat74]

AVZ cant decide to relinquish the Northern section of CDL without shareholder approval. Thats because it's an asset of significant intrinsic value to the company and shareholders. That value of CDL is ascribed because the company has stated many times the Resource Target for the whole of PR15339 is 1.5 to 2.0 Billion Tonnes and that CDL is likely equal to or higher in resource than RD. Therefore shareholders would expect CDL to carry a similar or higher valuation than RD does currently, once CDL has had a similar level of exploration and evaluation studies conducted that has been completed on RD to date. For that intrinsic future value to shareholders from a company with one asset, i doubt the major shareholders would approve relinquishing CDL just for a short term fix on RD. The major shareholders have deep pockets and know the value of CDL, they wont be giving in imo just to let Klaus do a quick flip to Zijin. PR15339 needs to be maintained in its whole by Dathcom one way or another, whether that is PE for the whole tenement or PE for RD and PE for CDL. The company says it has written documents from the Mines Dept agreeing to issue PE for RD and renew PR for CDL and that is what i believe they are pursuing as a minimum negotiated way of moving this stalemate forward in the absence of agreement for a PE for 15339 in its entirety.

Cheers . This will all depend if AVZ is forced into a corner IMO . If this is still not resolved in the months ahead do we risk a change of government ? Do we play the all or nothing card 4 months out from the election if the RD/sthCDL option is on the table ? Roll the dice with SH money . Not with my money thanks .

 

[Onthefm]

IMO that was Nige downplaying CDL in case it was lost by AVZ. Of course Nige doesnt lose in that scenario...he actually comes out better off due to his 10% major holding in AJN. There is no information announced by AVZ to say the mica is high in CDL....in fact i think from memory others have reported the supposed mica in CDL is crapola.

Exactly

 

[Chilla]

Cheers . This will all depend if AVZ is forced into a corner IMO . If this is still not resolved in the months ahead do we risk a change of government ? Do we play the all or nothing card 4 months out from the election if the RD/sthCDL option is on the table ? Roll the dice with SH money . Not with my money thanks .

Yeah unfortunately us retail holders dont carry enough weight when it comes to pushing the BoD one way or another. The only ones with influence are Mr Pei/ CATL/Yibin, Huayou, Lithium Plus and possibly the Fundys who bought in on the ASX200 requirement for their fund.

 

[MoneyBags1348]

AVZ cant decide to relinquish the Northern section of CDL without shareholder approval. Thats because it's an asset of significant intrinsic value to the company and shareholders. That value of CDL is ascribed because the company has stated many times the Resource Target for the whole of PR15339 is 1.5 to 2.0 Billion Tonnes and that CDL is likely equal to or higher in resource than RD. Therefore shareholders would expect CDL to carry a similar or higher valuation than RD does currently, once CDL has had a similar level of exploration and evaluation studies conducted that has been completed on RD to date. For that intrinsic future value to shareholders from a company with one asset, i doubt the major shareholders would approve relinquishing CDL just for a short term fix on RD. The major shareholders have deep pockets and know the value of CDL, they wont be giving in imo just to let Klaus do a quick flip to Zijin. PR15339 needs to be maintained in its whole by Dathcom one way or another, whether that is PE for the whole tenement or PE for RD and PR for CDL. The company says it has written documents from the Mines Dept agreeing to issue PE for RD and renew PR for CDL and that is what i believe they are pursuing as a minimum negotiated way of moving this stalemate forward in the absence of agreement for a PE for 15339 in its entirety.

Chilla I pretty well agree with all your comments. I think people haven’t had a really good look at the map that shows the section that PE decree was for. Most of the CDL pegmatite is in that section, it’s not in the north eastern portion of 15339.

I could be wrong, I’m putting the map below (again) magnified and showing the portion of CDL that comes under the decree. Having said that, I want to keep the full tenement too and it’s legally ours, but I’m just pointing out how much of the CDL pegmatite is already covered in the section granted. Always good to hear your comments!

 

[Panther22]

Anyone having a guess at what happens on 31st January? Mine is extension until 28 February then who knows.
I am now at the stage of a TO. Would love $5 per share but would take $2. I am over this. I need to trade. The stakes are high but by no means certain. The Chinese, Klaus, Bandits and anyone else you can think of will not be going away.
What's to say even with a ML the law suits don't keep coming which leads to more uncertainty and delay?
Dead set over this. Occupies a lot of my day which it shouldn't and clearly many of you spend a lot of the day on here and HC doing the same.
Not good for your health, certainly not good for your wealth as it stands.

February 28th and a TO please.

 

[Chilla]

Chilla I pretty well agree with all your comments. I think people haven’t had a really good look at the map that shows the section that PE decree was for. Most of the CDL pegmatite is in that section, it’s not in the north eastern portion of 15339.

I could be wrong, I’m putting the map below (again) magnified and showing the portion of CDL that comes under the decree. Having said that, I want to keep the full tenement too and it’s legally ours, but I’m just pointing out how much of the CDL pegmatite is already covered in the section granted. Always good to hear your comments!

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Cheers mate. There is a substantial portion of CDL that has been explored in the southern portion as shown in the map. Whilst this is a major resource, it may need to be left for much later years for mining. This is due to the resource being immediately downstream of the Lake Likushi Dam Wall and Spillway, and being sandwiched by the dam wall and the main arterial road. It will likely require diversion of the Likushi River, creation of a new dam wall and reservoir, and rerouting the main roads in order to mine that section with any intensity and depth. All are costly civil works that will take years to develop and only once cashflows are high from mining of RD and onsite processing of PLS. The pegmatites further north need more exploration and are likely the hosts of a significant amount of the exploration target of 1.5 to 2.0 Billion Tonnes. The pegmatite trend continues further north east too as far as i recall and into the 100% AVZ Extension PR. So this northern section of PR15339 does contain significant potential intrinsic value once explored to the same extent as RD if we are to believe the previous company announcements arounf Exploration Target Resource and therefore is a major asset unable to be relinquished without shareholder approval.

 

[TDITD]

AVZ need to get moving, this is what we are missing out on so far. Lithium, lithium and more lithium for a loooong time yet !!
https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/the-future-value-of-disruptive-materials/

 

[cruiser51]

Cadastre map still MIA, they are probably still looking for the missing Tantalex Tailings Exploitation Permit.

May be they are realising it is a bit odd to sell an Exploitation Permit in levels, having different mining trucks bumping into each other.
They might have to resort to traffic lights, or a traffic cop.

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Can one imaging above ground Tantalex, below ground AVZ.
I wonder who gets the cellar or the fucking penthouse.

 

[Hemicuda]

What has nige possibly got to say at these up coming events???????? Role out another bullshit pie chart? Seriously what?

 

[CHB]

What has nige possibly got to say at these up coming events???????? Role out another bullshit pie chart? Seriously what?

That we've got the ML, got a great partner in CATH who own 24%, that we are on a staged approach to 10mtpa, that we expect FID in a few months

 

[Hemicuda]

That we've got the ML, got a great partner in CATH who own 24%, that we are on a staged approach to 10mtpa, that we expect FID in a few months

to go along with my powerball win, that I’m still waiting for seems about as likely,

 

[Flight996]

to go along with my powerball win, that I’m still waiting for seems about as likely,

AVZ and CATH have agreed to extend to 28 February 2023, their $US240 million Manono funding arrangement to accelerate the development of the Manono Lithium project despite months of bureaucratic delays.

Suzhou CATH Energy Technologies (CATH), is a private investment entity jointly owned by Contemporary Amperex Technology Co Limited (CATL) and Mr Pei Zhenhua, who also holds significant interests in one of China's largest lithium converters.

I note that despite seven months of bullshit excuses and high level corruption, CATH remains committed to this funding arrangement. CATH can sniff the wind, and if the ML was a non-starter, then it would have walked away. That CATH remains committed is a positive, and surely the ML is not far away...maybe even imminent.

Cheers
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[wombat74]

Yeah unfortunately us retail holders dont carry enough weight when it comes to pushing the BoD one way or another. The only ones with influence are Mr Pei/ CATL/Yibin, Huayou, Lithium Plus and possibly the Fundys who bought in on the ASX200 requirement for their fund.

True , but no one is going to accept losing all their investment if there are other options in the event we get snookered. Especially the Fundys . imo

 

[Xerof]

AVZ need to get moving, this is what we are missing out on so far. Lithium, lithium and more lithium for a loooong time yet !!
https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/the-future-value-of-disruptive-materials/

Yes, BUT every fucker with the drill bit turning is finding fucking pegamites or REE's

Kunts

Arsehole

 

[Xerof]

Cadastre map still MIA, they are probably still looking for the missing Tantalex Tailings Exploitation Permit.

May be they are realising it is a bit odd to sell an Exploitation Permit in levels, having different mining trucks bumping into each other.
They might have to resort to traffic lights, or a traffic cop.

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Can one imaging above ground Tantalex, below ground AVZ.
I wonder who gets the cellar or the fucking penthouse.

Hi Tricia, lovely

Yes, but I note they mention both tenements when in fact the last time I looked at that TiTan tenement, and the one above it, it had also changed back to an application, so hold all tickets, there's a fucking enquiry

 

[wombat74]

Yes, BUT every fucker with the drill bit turning is finding fucking pegamites or REE's

Kunts

Arsehole

The sh1t is going to be as cheap as sand if we dont f--king hurry up .

 

[Mr Clean]

Economic forum finished a few days ago. Just like everyone of the whispers that people keep hearing, the rumours have once again proven to be unfounded. No change of governing ministers in sights, especially no removal of any of the roadblocks in our way.

The people in the DRC who are directly affected by this impasse should be vocal about all of this. Yet we hear no demonstrations or protests in regards to this. AVZ also silent makes it even more stupid. Only a few journalists speaking on Twitter (the vast majority of the population would have no idea what they even type) have spread any word of our plight.

At what point does AVZ spend a mere fraction of their high legal fees on a public relations push in country? It’s a joke we have stayed quiet for all this time with no progress to be seen or found.

The President only cares about his re-election. So make him care about us by pinning this mining lisence to thousands of votes in the community of Manono and the surrounding communities who would benefit from AVZ.

It’s all a big joke. Overpaid part time management that can’t even tell us what the plan is to break this impasse. Or who is directly responsible for it all.

 

[whales]

Cheers . This will all depend if AVZ is forced into a corner IMO . If this is still not resolved in the months ahead do we risk a change of government ? Do we play the all or nothing card 4 months out from the election if the RD/sthCDL option is on the table ? Roll the dice with SH money . Not with my money thanks .

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Yeah unfortunately us retail holders dont carry enough weight when it comes to pushing the BoD one way or another. The only ones with influence are Mr Pei/ CATL/Yibin, Huayou, Lithium Plus and possibly the Fundys who bought in on the ASX200 requirement for their fund.

Not quite right.
Can force an EGM and call holders to vote on .
Continue current path and all of 13359 or accept ML on Roche Dure and only part of CDL?

 

[wombat74]

Economic forum finished a few days ago. Just like everyone of the whispers that people keep hearing, the rumours have once again proven to be unfounded. No change of governing ministers in sights, especially no removal of any of the roadblocks in our way.

The people in the DRC who are directly affected by this impasse should be vocal about all of this. Yet we hear no demonstrations or protests in regards to this. AVZ also silent makes it even more stupid. Only a few journalists speaking on Twitter (the vast majority of the population would have no idea what they even type) have spread any word of our plight.

At what point does AVZ spend a mere fraction of their high legal fees on a public relations push in country? It’s a joke we have stayed quiet for all this time witchh no progress to be seen or found.

The President only cares about his re-election. So make him care about us by pinning this mining lisence to thousands of votes in the community of Manono and the surrounding communities who would benefit from AVZ.

It’s all a big joke. Overpaid part time management that can’t even tell us what the plan is to break this impasse. Or who is directly responsible for it all.

Felix is in the UAE . How many international trips has this guy taken in the past 9 months? I've lost count . Not bad for one of the poorest countries in the world . Oh that's right he's trying to drum up business . Apparently getting the biggest Li deposit on the planet up and running is not part of it . Self preservation more important . AVZ is trying to expose corrupt players . However it's not a good look if Felix has to admit his cabinet is infested with crooks . Especially 10 months out from the election . He gets the evidence and then says prove it . Zijin get exposed but still go ahead with the ICC . It's f--king Alice in Wonderland sh1t . I reckon we will know Felix's intentions within the first half of this year .

 

[whales]

Felix is in the UAE . How many international trips has this guy taken in the past 9 months? I've lost count . Not bad for one of the poorest countries in the world . Oh that's right he's trying to drum up business . Apparently getting the biggest Li deposit on the planet up and running is not part of it . Self preservation more important . AVZ is trying to expose corrupt players . However it's not a good look if Felix has to admit his cabinet is infested with crooks . Especially 10 months out from the election . He gets the evidence and then says prove it . Zijin get exposed but still go ahead with the ICC . It's f--king Alice in Wonderland sh1t . I reckon we will know Felix's intentions within the first half of this year .

The IGF has tge evidence .
Mining code is specific and Mupande cannot just divide a tenement.
expose the specific corruption on surface rights and take CAMI with Mupande to the ICC .
IMO will force Felix to act .