AVZ Discussion 2022

[Hudnut]

August old boy putting the boot in over on X

"PR133359 is legally extinguished and there is no provision to re-establish or create it in Congolese law".

Using August's high and mighty lettering scheme:

a) PR133359 was not legally extinguished.
b) Since fucking when do the Congolese follow their own laws?
c) Laws mean SFA when the country is corrupt as fuck.
d) The Congolese will establish a PR against their own laws and grant it to whoever they want, as per the PR for the North/CDL to Zijin.
e) Not following laws is why ICC/ICSID rulings are so difficult to enforce. It is a Congolese contract that states ICC is where arbitration takes place.
f) The real leverage is from:
f.1) Felix being scared the US won't save him from M23 in return for Minerals
f.2) The US enforcing any contract he signs with them by using their military. Geopolitical remification for this are yet to be seen.

All point a) to f.2) are more than plausible.

I think the DRC and China are not just delaying AVZ in the courts to bleed them dry, but also trying to outlast the Trump Presidency and hoping they don't get Vance afterwards, as they are both willing to throw around the weight of the US military to make the DRC comply.

Trump said at the signing in the Oval Office he is replying on the delegates to hammer out the details, as there "are other means".

 

[Dave Evans]

August old boy putting the boot in over on X
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He hates Share holders calling for fair compensation . Thinks we should accept whatever crumbs are thrown our way and be grateful .

Perhaps someone should remind Augie that international investors (including the US) don’t want to invest in a country that doesn’t abide by the International Chamber of Commerce (ICC) and International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID) rules.

What about all the talk of mechanisms around transparency, accountability, traceability, reliability and de-risking mineral supply chains and other legal frameworks for investors!

Not to mention all the agreements around independent economic audits and anti-corruption mechanisms to monitor mineral supply chains, infrastructure projects, and any future economic agreements between the Parties, as set out in the Regional Economic Integration Framework.

Does Augie think some sort of joint oversight committee should have greater legal authority than the ICC and ICSID. I always thought he was a wanker and I’ve always thought the best course of action was through DLA Piper.

Remember this earlier post about DLA Piper’s experience in these types of arbitration

"DLA Piper is widely regarded as one of the top global law firms for handling complex cross-border disputes, including investment treaty arbitrationand mining sector negotiations—both highly relevant to the AVZ scenario.

While specific case outcomes are often confidential, here’s what we can draw from public records and their track record:

Strengths Relevant to AVZ’s Case

• Investor-State Dispute Settlement (ISDS): DLA Piper has represented both investors and states in ICSID and UNCITRAL arbitrations. Their experience includes disputes over expropriation, mining licenses, and regulatory interference—core issues in AVZ’s claim against the DRC.
• Mining & Energy Sector Expertise: The firm has advised on resource nationalization disputes, joint venture breakdowns, and permit revocations, often in Africa and Latin America.
• Settlement Strategy: DLA Piper emphasizes early dispute resolution where possible, using mediation, structured negotiations, and hybrid settlement frameworks—similar to the KoBold-AVZ framework.

Notable Examples

• Vedanta Resources v. Zambia: DLA Piper advised Vedanta in a dispute over the seizure of a copper mine. The case involved ICSID arbitration and complex negotiations with the Zambian government.
• Tethyan Copper Company v. Pakistan: While not directly involved, DLA Piper has cited this case in its publications as a benchmark for large-scale mining arbitration, showcasing their familiarity with billion-dollar claims.
• Confidential African Mining Dispute: In a matter involving a revoked mining license in West Africa, DLA Piper reportedly helped secure a favorable settlement through a combination of arbitration and diplomatic engagement.

Implications for AVZ
Given DLA Piper’s deep bench of arbitration specialists, sector-specific knowledge, and experience navigating political risk, they are well-positioned to negotiate a favorable outcome for AVZ—whether through a KoBold-facilitated settlement or a full ICSID ruling.


Perhaps if the DRC want to continue to try and screw us, we should just go back to exposing their corruption. There’s plenty of facts and evidence if anyone wants to have a look in this link below

Ongoing Corruption Makes International Investment Dangerous In The DRC

Why the DRC is too dangerous to invest in and why the DRC won’t prosper while corruption continues under the protection of the President and corrupt officials Corruption in the DRC has remained under the Tshisekedi government. The DRC government and mining sectors are rife with bribes...

thestockexchange.com.au

 

[wombat74]

KoBold Metals

@KoBold_Metals

Today, we honor courage, resilience, and unity. Happy Independence Day, Democratic Republic of Congo.

 

[Stockinvesting]

From FrankMe on HC

The DRC-US Agreement will aim to sovereignly develop our strategic minerals, particularly copper, cobalt, and lithium..."

"The Congo of today is no longer one of fatalism and helplessness," declared President Félix Antoine Tshisekedi Tshilombo on Monday, June 30, 2025, during his speech celebrating the 65th anniversary of the independence of the Democratic Republic of Congo.

According to Félix Antoine Tshisekedi, the DRC is ready to establish strategic, reliable, transparent, and, above all, win-win partnerships that will benefit the Congolese people.

"To our partners in the United States, China, Europe, the Gulf States, the African continent, and the entire world, I solemnly say: the Democratic Republic of the Congo is back and ready to forge strategic, reliable, transparent, and, above all, win-win partnerships.

The resources of the Democratic Republic of the Congo will never be sold off or handed over to obscure interests. These resources will benefit the Congolese people.

According to the President of the Republic, the agreement to be signed with the United States of America will aim to sovereignly develop strategic minerals, particularly copper, cobalt, and lithium.

"This renewed confidence will soon translate into the signing of a strategic and unprecedented agreement with the United States of America in the mining sector.

This agreement will mark a decisive step in positioning the DRC as a central player in the global energy transition and the emerging green economy.

It paves the way for local processing, the creation of thousands of jobs, and a new economic model based on sovereignty and national added value," stated the President of the Republic.

Bold Reforms Undertaken

During his second term, Félix Tshisekedi announced that he had initiated several judicial and economic reforms.

"This vision, which I share with you and for you, informs each of our decisions and underpins the bold reforms we are pursuing in a spirit of renewal and assertive sovereignty.

Alongside the government, I have initiated a series of economic, judicial, and institutional reforms aimed at establishing a true rule of law, eradicating corruption, and creating a business climate conducive to investment and initiative."

Meeting between Tshisekedi and Martin Fayulu: an important step

For the President of the Republic, his meeting with Martin Fayulu, one of the opposition leaders, demonstrates a shared desire to place the nation's best interests above partisan quarrels.

It marks an important step towards a policy of reconciliation, mutual listening, and reciprocal respect.

mediacongo

 

[cruiser51]

There's a ' scheme ', whereby residence can be obtained subject to making financial investments in the country.

Prior to around 2020, full citizenship could be purchased, but this was cancelled under pressure from the EU because dodgy geezers were getting EU citizenship. Cyprus is a full member.

Not that I believe FT is anything less than an upstanding member of the community.

Yup Cypress got also a honorary mention in the Panama Papers and they do accept number accounts, but it is all above board.
Hopefully they are better than that bank in Kinshasa, which just loses US$20 million, without the blink of one eye, or an entire army of eyes.

 

[cruiser51]

August old boy putting the boot in over on X
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If you believe August, than ICSID is an extension of the TRUMP Inc. and they do as told, or the proud boys will torch their headquarter.

Dear August, just to remind you the USA is part of the world, the world is not part of the USA. FFS!

The Gulf of America, Canada a state of the USA, Greenland a state of the USA. I don't know what is wrong with these fucking idiots!
Why don't they annex South America as well? Where do these fukwits stop?

 

[cruiser51]

I don't agree with the racial overtones ,but this person on X seems to know August .


"AVZ SH's need to block that august fwit! Hes a NYC shit stain jew failed lawyer who married a dipshit drc women. He wouldnt have a clue what is happening and tries to imply previous job to this case. And on wrong side of the US table to ever know anything before we do." - Iggy bliss

Can anyone concur?

Never with Iggy Bliss.
Is he a mate of you?

 

[wombat74]

Never with Iggy Bliss.
Is he a mate of you?

Ok . No I am not aware of who he is . The post just made me laugh that's all . I'll take it down .

 

[Spikerama]

Isn't Iggy Bliss a DerGeist nom de plume? I always thought it was.

Anyway folks, I'm off overseas for a month to escape this cold. So no Friday Funnies from me for a while. If I can I will but it's up to the usual suspects to cover that one.

Don't be naughty. Keep it clean. I'll see you when I get back.

Spike out.

 

[OmarsCominYo]

19 minutes of pure comedic hyperbole.

All while, as was reported back in February:

"Switzerland's largest bank freezes Tshisekedi family funds estimated at $8 billion, but experts suspect some of the fortune is in Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. The funds blocked in Switzerland are suspected of being linked to opaque transactions and the misappropriation of natural resources, particularly in the mining sector, which represents a significant part of the Congolese economy."

https://vacradiointernational.com/2...fortune-se-trouve-au-qatar-et-aux-emirats-ar/

That figure is more than 10% of the estimated 2025 GDP of the DRC...

Those funds might have contributed somewhat in helping to build the "modern, safe and respected Congo" he heralds in the video.

 

[Chase]

Isn't Iggy Bliss a DerGeist nom de plume? I always thought it was.

Anyway folks, I'm off overseas for a month to escape this cold. So no Friday Funnies from me for a while. If I can I will but it's up to the usual suspects to cover that one.

Don't be naughty. Keep it clean. I'll see you when I get back.

Spike out.

I hope the Fat Fuck can keep his head above water to get these mineral deals signed...hope all the truths of his rampant abuse of public funds would not become mainstream until the deal between the yanks is sealed..

 

[Dave Evans]

Within the last couple of weeks someone posted a link to an article of how corruption is a way of life, and “expected” amongst DRC high ranking officials.

Can anyone remember it and re-post it so I can add to my links. I’m sure the United States along with everyone else is sick of the corruption and lies continuing, including this bullshit from less than a month ago

US-DRC mineral-security agreement: Tshisekedi appoints a coordination to accelerate the mining deal​

Last updated: 06/03/2025 at 10:59 PM
Mines.cd

The President of the Democratic Republic of Congo, Félix Tshisekedi, has set up a special coordination of experts responsible for leading discussions with the American administration as part of the strategic partnership "minerals against military support". This deal, crucial for Kinshasa, aims to strengthen the country's security capabilities in the face of armed conflicts in the East, and to structure relations with Washington within the framework of the peace agreement under the aegis of the United States with Rwanda.

Mixed coordination to structure a strategic partnership
This coordination's mission is to formalize and accelerate negotiations on this mining and security partnership. It consists of three personalities from the President's office, including two ministers:

Thérèse Kayikwamba Wagner, Minister of State for Foreign Affairs;

Kizito Pakabomba Kapinga Mulume, Minister of Mines

as well as Guy-Robert Lukama Nkunzi, Chairman of the Board of Directors of Gécamines SA, the largest public mining company in the DRC.

Legal expertise integrated into the process
Coordination is also strengthened by high-level legal experts, including Me Pascal Agboyibor, associate lawyer at ASAFO & CO, recognized for his expertise in the energy, mining, infrastructure and project development sectors in Africa.

A technical secretariat, supported by a group of 22 experts, will support this team. Their role will be to produce regular reports on the progress of the negotiations, as well as on the results of the implementation of the agreement.

Cominière SA (public company in the mining sector) and the Mining Cadastre are among these technical experts.

For Kinshasa, this step is strategic. The aim is to accelerate discussions and support the concrete implementation of the DRC-USA partnership.

This coordination reinforces the actions already undertaken by the presidency, which relies in particular on the services of the American lobbying firm Von Batten-Montague-York. This firm acts as an intermediary between the Congolese authorities and the American administration, including that of Donald Trump, in order to advance the diplomatic process.

A strategic agreement, but under conditions
The agreement long awaited by Kinshasa aims to stabilize the conflict regions, while enhancing the country's strategic natural resources. But for it to bear fruit, several conditions must be met:

• Transparency of negotiations;
• Respect for the Congolese legal framework;
• And above all, the ability to guarantee equitable economic benefits for the entire Congolese population.

Daniel Bawuna

(Read the information on Kizito Pakabomba in the link below)

Kizito Pakabomba Kapinga Mulume (DRC Minister of Mines)​

Kizito Pakabomba Kapinga Mulume (The DRC Minister of Mines) has overseen and supported Cominiere and Zijin’s corruption and violations of ICC and ICSID orders, as can be seen in the photos below. He also supported and endorsed Manono Lithium being granted a Mining Licence (PE) without having...

thestockexchange.com.au

(Read the information on Cominiere’s corruption in the link below)

Cominiere’s Corruption​

Cominiere’s Corruption Investors, mining companies, battery maker’s and EV manufacturer’s around the world know the story of AVZ Minerals and how DRC state miner Cominiere seized the Manono lithium project from Dathcom and sold it to Chinese Zijin Mining Follow the links below to see 1. The...

thestockexchange.com.au
Kinshasa wants to go fast

Accord minerais-sécurité USA–RDC : Tshisekedi nomme une coordination pour accélérer le deal minier - MINES.CD - Premier média congolais du secteur minier​

Le Président de la République démocratique du Congo, Félix Tshisekedi, a procédé à la mise en place d’une coordination spéciale d’experts chargée de piloter les discussions avec l’administration américaine dans le cadre du partenariat stratégique « minerais contre soutien militaire ». Ce deal...

mines.cd

 

[LzrTr8dr]

Tshisekedi keen to get on board the nobel peace prize for Trump now

 

[RHyNO]

Umm, is anyone else watching this US congress hearing where they're admitting aliens!!!

I heard they need critical minerals and are trying to get a deal with DRC for 500b in space diamonds but the payments keep disappearing.

 

[BRICK]

Umm, is anyone else watching this US congress hearing where they're admitting aliens!!!

Ihope those UFOS run on Lithium

 

[wombat74]

Le retour d'AVZ Minerals en justice contre la RDC retardera la mise en œuvre de l'accord de l’exploitation de lithium de Manono par KoBold Metals de Bill Gates et Jeff Bezos - Congovirtuel

AVZ avait temporairement suspendu sa plainte en mai 2025 à la demande du gouvernement américain, mais a repris l’affaire le…

congovirtuelinfo.com

"AVZ Minerals' return to court against the DRC will delay the implementation of the Manono lithium mining agreement by Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos' KoBold Metals"​

 

[Xerof]

I’m still waiting to hear the whispers about new interest - speak up, not loud enough

 

[Mute22]

Maja and Jens posting on X:

 

[Hodlandwin69]

Umm, is anyone else watching this US congress hearing where they're admitting aliens!!!

speaking of UFOs

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Here's the English translation of the press release:
PRESS RELEASE N° 18 OF JUNE 30, 2025.
The Armed Forces of the Democratic Republic of Congo inform national and international opinion of the interception, this Monday, June 30, 2025, by our military radars, of an unidentified aircraft that violated our airspace and illegally penetrated Congolese territory without prior overflight authorization. The aircraft was heading towards an active conflict zone.
After the usual verifications, it was found that this aircraft bore no registration allowing its identification. This constitutes a flagrant violation of international civil aviation standards.
The competent authorities have been seized, and the Armed Forces of the Democratic Republic of Congo have taken appropriate measures to guarantee the security of our airspace and preserve the integrity of our territory."

 

[Bin59]

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The contours of peace deal between Kigali and Kinshasa take shape

From the Reuters article:

“A source familiar with the matter told Reuters on Friday that another agreement on the framework would be signed by the heads of state at a separate White House event at an unspecified time”

@Rechnerhand

Could Reuters reference to a meeting at the White House at “an unspecified time” (above) by the heads of State be the same meeting mentioned by Africa Intelligence in their article below that you posted which mentions a meeting to be held in late July at the White House.

“ The ceremony sealing the deal will precede a meeting scheduled for late July at the White House between Presidents Félix Tshisekedi and Paul Kagame.”

From the Bloomberg article 1 July :

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-30/congo-wants-m23-peace-agreement-before-july-meeting-with-trump

“Congo is also nearing a separate strategic minerals deal with the US focused on the country’s world-class deposits of copper, cobalt and lithium, which are south of the conflict zone, President Felix Tshisekedisaid in a nationally broadcast independence day speech on Monday.”