AVZ Discussion 2022

pow4ade

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Are you basing this simply on the peace deal and minerals for security deal proposed timing or are you aware of some additional information?
The clue is the ICSID suspension period, set expire on Mon 23rd. This follows the peace deal signing slated for the preceeding week, clearing the path for Kobold to formalise our buyout. Otherwise, one presumes, legal proceedings will either resume or suspension extended.
 
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pow4ade

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From what I hear he's being out-purged. Some of his loyalist generals in the PLA being disappeared...
Heard same rumour a while back, that Xi had been deposed as head of the PLA. So Xi loyalist generals being purged suggests as much.
 
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pow4ade

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Edit: upon reflection have decided to delete my post as being too contentious, and unfair to Bags, even though he's been quite derogatory towards me over time.
 
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j.l

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Yea, in a perfect world, or even a normal world not involving the DRC Government. Also, keep in mind that the Peace agreement is expected to be signed on the week of June 15. June 15 is a Sunday and the US regards Sunday as the first day of the week. So I am interpreting this to mean that the expected date of signing to be within 15-21 June. This leaves things pretty tight to get the AVZ deal finalised in June, especially given the absolute glacial pace of every other step in this process.

I would have thought the most likely outcome is more extensions...much like the 50 extensions of the CATH deal, but very happy to be proven wrong. Time will tell. I am not getting hopes up too early.
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pow4ade

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Yea, in a perfect world, or even a normal world not involving the DRC Government. Also, keep in mind that the Peace agreement is expected to be signed on the week of June 15. June 15 is a Sunday and the US regards Sunday as the first day of the week. So I am interpreting this to mean that the expected date of signing to be within 15-21 June. This leaves things pretty tight to get the AVZ deal finalised in June, especially given the absolute glacial pace of every other step in this process.

I would have thought the most likely outcome is more extensions...much like the 50 extensions of the CATH deal, but very happy to be proven wrong. Time will tell. I am not getting hopes up too early.
Don't forget that AVZ have been in "commercial discussions" with Kobold for some months already and a framework to purchase our interest had been set by May 9 ann. Hence negotiations fairly advanced at that point.

So the May 26 ann that ICSID had been suspended to facilitate negotiations with DRC suggested this is the final phase, enabled by the Kobold/AVZ terms having been agreed upon.

And those terms would also have been informed by prior discussions establishing the DRC and US requirements for the deal to proceed.

Therefore the tight suspension requested indicates AVZ/Kobold are satisfied and confident that the DRC's imprimatur is largely a formality and can be wrapped up within 30 days.

This neatly coincides with the peace deal ceremony in Washington with Trump, Rubo and Bolous, along with loads of African leaders, slapping Felix's back and calling him some sort of genius. :rolleyes:

AIMO
 
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pow4ade

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What you say makes logical sense and is backed up by numerous media articles and other sources which speak of the arrangement as if it's a done deal. I have just lost all confidence in the DRC Government to achieve anything at all in any agreed timeframe. For anything involving the DRC Government, unfortunately I have come to expect nothing but delays and incompetence.
Don't underestimate Felix's urgent need of self-preservation, and love of the limelight on the world stage. He has everything incentive to make it happen. As does Trump and Rubio who desperately need a major win right now.
 
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Flight996

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From what I hear he's being out-purged. Some of his loyalist generals in the PLA being disappeared...

That's how China rolls.

You can't un-spot a leopard.
 
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Xerof

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Good pick up. Interesting language.

Partial claim settlement could mean a percentage of the $10b USD claim as you say. I would think it could also mean part of the claim settled now with part to be settled later (ongoing royalty?). Obviously we do not know the details yet, but interesting pick up for sure.
Imo, the partial claim settlement mentioned in that original statement might relate to the partial award of €39m that AVZ was awarded by ICSID ??
 
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Fusion power may never happen if we don't fix the lithium bottleneck​

Story by Jeremy Hsu

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Nuclear fusion has the potential to deliver nearly limitless power – but before it can even get started, the world must build a massive supply of enriched lithium fuel from scratch.

“One of the biggest missing pieces of technology is the enrichment stage, where a specific type of lithium is concentrated,” says Samuel Ward at Woodruff Scientific LTD, a UK consultancy focused on nuclear fusion. “We don’t have a solution that can be scaled to produce the required quantities of fuel for a future fleet of fusion power plants.”

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Frank

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To seal the mining agreement, US elected officials demand guarantees of transparency

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Negotiations around a strategic partnership with the United States in the mining sector are generating growing debate.

Kinshasa hopes to conclude this agreement quickly in the hope that it will allow for greater Washington's involvement in the search for peace in the eastern part of the country.

Three days ago, RFI revealed that President Félix Tshisekedi had established a strategic unit tasked with monitoring the discussions and preparing for the agreement's implementation.

But in Washington, five members of Congress are demanding clarification.

Even in the United States, doubts are beginning to appear.

Five members of Congress have just written to Massad Boulos, the White House Special Advisor for Africa.

In their letter, they ask a simple question : -

What exactly do the discussions between the United States and the DRC on minerals contain?

These elected officials are concerned, they say, about the lack of transparency regarding the conditions of access to Congolese resources, but also about how these riches will be managed.

They warn: without clear guarantees, this partnership could exacerbate conflicts and corruption, instead of bringing peace and development.

In the DRC, too, questions are multiplying.

Who is negotiating on behalf of the country?

What are the offers being made to the Americans?

And under what conditions?

"We need to understand the government's expectations in terms of the offer.

What are the main components of this offer made to the Americans regarding the exploitation of natural resources?" asks Jean-Pierre Okenda, a researcher on mining governance.

For him, it is above all important to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past.

He is thinking in particular of the famous Chinese contract of 2008, signed under the presidency of Joseph Kabila: minerals in exchange for infrastructure.

"Ultimately, Congo lost with the Chinese. We don't have the infrastructure today.

The second thing we lost is that the agreement was extremely unbalanced," he observes.

Finally, the American elected officials are requesting an official briefing on the ongoing negotiations.

They want clarification on the Declaration of Principles signed in April between Kinshasa and Kigali under American mediation, but also on how humanitarian issues will be addressed.


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j.l

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Maybe Xi is only allowed to talk with Trump and go on jolly trips, to stop China losing face internationally, or maybe it is just feel good, fake news.....
Probably getting a bit off topic for this thread, but I think there's something in what you say @cruiser51.

From what I've read, Chinese state media featured little about the call with Trump; indeed, initial reports apparently neglected to refer to Xi as 'president' (this was later corrected). 🤔

Lukashenko also just visited Xi, but he was hosted at Xi's home (house arrest?) and it was not a formal, working visit. Maybe Putin sent Lukashenko in to sniff around, or send a message of support to Xi (or a threat to the CCP)?

Anyway I'll stop here. Off topic as I said, and with all these conspiracy theories I'm peddling, people might start calling me S....
 
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Xerof

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.hane?
:eek::eek:
 
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j.l

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@j.l

I’m watching him have a complete meltdown in his posts on X over the past few weeks.
Roger that, @Xerof.

I'm on both HC and X as well, and have been since around my time of entry into AVZ, albeit in 'read only' mode these days.

It's quite astonishing to see the poor creature spinning around and around in its own echo chamber. One might (might!) wonder what will become of it, if and when our situation reaches a resolution.

Anyway, as others wisely say, best not to give it air.
 
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Skar

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I've already been in contact with him - he's ok.
Like me, he's from Germany.
He is a shareholder and only reads the forum.
I don't know if he is Skar.

Nope, I am Aussie and only post on this account.
 
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Goat

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Despite MAGA and the extended cronies out there, they failed to take ownership of Manono.
Congrats everyone for holding tight.
The spamming accounts here and the extensive BS twitter activity is a sign they have been defeated. Now their narcissistic nature will flourish trying to justify anything they can.

Water tight NDA in place obviously, no price leaks.. But appears a deal is done and we know next week.
 
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Strongman

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Next week? :eek::eek::eek::eek:


Edit: I'm guessing you may be getting expectation for next week from the anticipated date for the peace deal and minerals deal to be signed.

Peace agreement is expected to be signed on the week of June 15. June 15 is a Sunday and the US regards Sunday as the first day of the week. So I am interpreting this to mean that the expected date of signing to be within 15-21 June.
Just going a little further with that if the peace deal is signed say on the 16th then the Kobold/AVZ deal goes live pretty much immediately ie announced to the market on the 20th. Given AVZ is a public company ( albeit unlisted ) it will be required for shareholders to vote on the disposal of our principal asset. 75 % of the vote is required to pass the resolution and as far as iam aware AVZ have to give 21 days notice for an EGM to vote on the resolution ( sale agreement)
If that is the case why was the ICSID only suspended to 23 June ??
 
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