AVZ Discussion 2022

Lichione

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Haha yeah i would have thought after the rolling suspensions after we were first suspended from asx and the never ending due diligence of the Locke deal the last thing Nigel would have wanted was to start rolling over the ICSID suspension. Maybe iam missing something here ?
According to my search, don't think AVZ has to pass the vote by shareholders
1. As a delisted company, it does not need to follow ASX rule
2. It's not mandatory as per ASIC rule or Corporate Law. Largely based on avz constitue or governance rules
3. AVZ 2019 constitute removed the clause. And don't believe Governance rule has mentioned it. Please refer to Avz website.

Of course AVZ Bod can call the EGM.

I am not sure whether it is 75% or a simple majority will do, if EGM does happen
 
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Strongman

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According to my search, don't think AVZ has to pass the vote by shareholders
1. As a delisted company, it does not need to follow ASX rule
2. It's not mandatory as per ASIC rule or Corporate Law. Largely based on avz constitue or governance rules
3. AVZ 2019 constitute removed the clause. And don't believe Governance rule has mentioned it. Please refer to Avz website.

Of course AVZ Bod can call the EGM.

I am not sure whether it is 75% or a simple majority will do, if EGM does happen
Ok thanks mate. Given the ICSID suspension date of 23rd that definately makes sense. Exciting couple weeks for sure
 
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Shrek

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@j.l

I’m watching him have a complete meltdown in his posts on X over the past few weeks.

We’re all "classless bogans" according to the messiah, who continually repeats what he sees as his moment of glory, after getting completely fucked over by Santa Klaus.

AND, he’s now back as tendoji on the crapper, whispering to the classless bogans on there too.

Thank fuck he’s no longer here, unless he’s the prick deleting all our posts.

Lets see what happens to this one
That Shane is a piece of work I heard he hags out with Carrotdick and they dress up in ladies panties.
You don't even want to know what they get up to after that.
 

Shrek

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Good pick up. Interesting language.

Partial claim settlement could mean a percentage of the $10b USD claim as you say. I would think it could also mean part of the claim settled now with part to be settled later (ongoing royalty?). Obviously we do not know the details yet, but interesting pick up for sure.
Not really, that long winded article is similar to many others recently and the partial claim settlement probably relates to the €39 million as Xerof said.
It's really just more of the same but they've stretched out the word count to make their article look unique compared to all the others.
It's old news.
 
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Shrek

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@j.l

I’m watching him have a complete meltdown in his posts on X over the past few weeks.

We’re all "classless bogans" according to the messiah, who continually repeats what he sees as his moment of glory, after getting completely fucked over by Santa Klaus.

AND, he’s now back as tendoji on the crapper, whispering to the classless bogans on there too.

Thank fuck he’s no longer here, unless he’s the prick deleting all our posts.

Lets see what happens to this one
I heard a rumour that Shane is friendly with Michael Carrick and they dress each other up in ladies panties.
 
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Dave Evans

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The reports of a partial settlement in the articles mentioned refer to the compensation for the northern part of our tenement (which was illegally given to the Cominiere and Zijin JV) and so should be referred to in billions of dollars.

It had nothing to do with the €39 million which is the partial sum the ICSID ordered Cominiere to pay AVZ in penalties. Genuine shareholders know this, and the only reason I’m posting this is to see how long until my post is wiped
 
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Frank

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Ok thanks mate. Given the ICSID suspension date of 23rd that definately makes sense. Exciting couple weeks for sure
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Papst

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Just going a little further with that if the peace deal is signed say on the 16th then the Kobold/AVZ deal goes live pretty much immediately ie announced to the market on the 20th. Given AVZ is a public company ( albeit unlisted ) it will be required for shareholders to vote on the disposal of our principal asset. 75 % of the vote is required to pass the resolution and as far as iam aware AVZ have to give 21 days notice for an EGM to vote on the resolution ( sale agreement)
If that is the case why was the ICSID only suspended to 23 June ??
If the whole deal blows up, we can imminently proceed with the icsid. Or put new pressure on the parties. Seems like a reasonable approach to me to suspend just for the minimum time frame.
 
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Xerof

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We dont have a good track record with suspending things for a "minimum timeframe", but yeah think we all just want out of here with a fair price (including the said partial compensation), to me there's no way that partial compensation is referring to the $39m euro we are owed, that makes zero sense to me considering they already owe more than that with interest and the ongoing fines, even disregarding that it would still make no sense to me in the grand scope of things, Kobold cant possibly be talking about compensating an extra measley few mill, when we want billions, even Nige would laugh at that shit

I’ll rephrase it then

Exploration expenditure, plus partial claim settlement, including interest to date plus US1.5b, being the only published figure mentioned anywhere

Which I hasten to add drew the very cool response from AVZ - non-binding agreement

and someone said the ISCID is suspended and if finally dropped, the partial award won’t be able to be claimed. Well, Nigel would say thats absolute rubbish. It’s an Award already made, and Nigel will be trying to collect as mush of every penny of anything due as he can
 
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whales

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If the whole deal blows up, we can imminently proceed with the icsid. Or put new pressure on the parties. Seems like a reasonable approach to me to suspend just for the minimum time frame.
The desperation of Tshedeski to get the minerals for security signed off to save his personal wealth and political position will enable the deal to go through.
Rwanda would have analysed the consequences of going against the military strength of US.
Would be absolutely foolish IMO.
Best to get some processing benefits from trade in critical minerals than be militarily overcome in short time.
Hence minerals for security will be signed off.
Felix has re arranged his puppets
/ close at hand for Kobold to benefit with Manono.
Just need to wait what the final " fair compensation " is made known to shareholders.
 
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Lichione

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Anyone has an idea how much avz spent on the exploration, roughly? About 150m AUD? Or more
 
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hedrox

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We dont have a good track record with suspending things for a "minimum timeframe", but yeah think we all just want out of here with a fair price (including the said partial compensation), to me there's no way that partial compensation is referring to the $39m euro we are owed, that makes zero sense to me considering they already owe more than that with interest and the ongoing fines, even disregarding that it would still make no sense to me in the grand scope of things, Kobold cant possibly be talking about compensating an extra measley few mill, when we want billions, even Nige would laugh at that shit
Hi @Yaseen, what price does you think AVZ will be offered if the Kobold buyout actually happens. Do you think its passable that the whole deal is likly to fall though & AVZ will haff to restart the ICSID case? Intrested in your thoughts. SS
 
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Dave Evans

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Well if I can’t get the usual disappearing post response from the scammers, I wish I could at least get a response from zeebot

Oh hang on, here he is 👇

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Frank

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The desperation of Tshedeski to get the minerals for security signed off to save his personal wealth and political position will enable the deal to go through.
Rwanda would have analysed the consequences of going against the military strength of US.
Would be absolutely foolish IMO.
Best to get some processing benefits from trade in critical minerals than be militarily overcome in short time.
Hence minerals for security will be signed off.
Felix has re arranged his puppets
/ close at hand for Kobold to benefit with Manono.
Just need to wait what the final " fair compensation " is made known to shareholders.
The Chief's Lieutenants Appointed to Make Final Adjustments with the Trump Team

Whoever wants to achieve success combines expertise and efficiency. Tshisekedi is working hard to achieve this.


The hard-working Thérèse Kayikwamba Wagner, former Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, and her colleague for Mines, Kizito Pakabomba Kapinga Mulume, along with the Chairman of Gécamines SA, Guy-Robert Lukama Nkunzi, are the three musketeers appointed by President Tshisekedi to negotiate the final adjustments to the barter deal, critical minerals for security, between the DRC and the United States.

Before the end of the summer, the sky of strategic relations amidst the mining transactions between the US and the DRC is unlikely to be clouded by a single cloud.

The three-headed special coordination body established by Fatshi's primary mission is to discuss each clause of the "minerals for military support" deal with the US administration.

To ensure its success, Félix Tshisekedi has strengthened the Kayikwamba-Kizito-Lukama coordination body with high-level legal experts, including Pascal Agboyibor, a partner at ASAFO & CO, internationally renowned for his expertise in the energy, mining, infrastructure, and project development sectors in Africa.

The coordination body will also be supported by a technical secretariat composed of 22 experts whose essential role will be to produce regular reports on the progress of the negotiations, as well as the results of the implementation of the agreement in preparation.

The profile of Jules Alingete

The state-owned mining company, Cominière SA, and the Mining Registry (Cami) are also among these technical experts. Within the civil society movement, fingers are crossed in the hope that "American contracts would not contain leonine and obscure clauses like Chinese contracts."

In the initial draft of Chinese contracts presented to the National Assembly by the then Minister of ITPR, the late Pierre Lumbi O'kongo, a certain Kabale, not otherwise identified, appeared in the notes like a hair in the soup.

Speaker Vital Kamerhe L.K. Kingi was unable to prevent elected officials from the opposition, then led by the MLC, from heaping more harsh criticism on Chinese contracts.

It took more than 15 years for the incorruptible Jules Alingete Key, then head of the IGF department, to return to the infamous contracts and force the consortium of Chinese companies (Sinohydro, Crec, and Afrexim Bank) to rebalance the financial package in favor of the DRC, with an additional US$7 billion allocated to road infrastructure construction.

As with the revisiting of the Chinese contract under the leadership of the IGF, Félix Tshisekedi insisted on transparency in the negotiations and compliance with the Congolese legal framework (particularly the mining code and regulations), as well as the certainty that the deal with the US, in addition to security guarantees, would also offer definite economic benefits for the DRC.

So, a win-win situation!

Kobold CEO: "DRC, the best place in the world!"

And according to analysts who spoke to Ouragan.cd, the presence of delegates from Cominière SA is justified by Mr. Tshisekedi's desire to offer the lithium mining operation in Manono, a 19-hour drive from Bukavu, to the American group KoBold Metals, co-owned by billionaires Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos.

KoBold has apparently convinced the Australian company AVZ to drop legal proceedings against Cominière and join the new pact.

KoBold is a young mining company that gained notoriety in 2022 by investing in the development of a copper deposit in Zambia.

"The company aims to harness new technologies, particularly artificial intelligence, to explore strategic minerals needed for the energy transition."

In 2023, its CEO, Kurt House, stated that the DRC is probably "the best place in the world" for the materials his company is looking for.

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It's highly likely that the American firm KoBold would find imitators on Wall Street.


However, for many civil society organizations specializing in the extractive sector, Guy-Robert Lukama is considered the Albert Yuma of the regime, as he holds multiple positions and negotiates contracts considered as murky as those of Joseph Kabila.

And his presence among Congolese negotiators arouses suspicion.

The United States has targeted a wide range of minerals, which are, in fact, being swallowed up in other, better-known places, such as copper, cobalt, or lithium.

Since April 15, 2024, Uncle Sam has increased to fifty (50) the list of minerals it considers critical or strategic.

These are: aluminum, antimony, arsenic, barite, beryllium, bismuth, cerium, cesium, chromium, cobalt, dysprosium, erbium, europium, fluorspar, gadolinium, gallium, germanium, graphite, hafnium, holmium, indium, iridium, lanthanum, lithium, lutetium, magnesium, manganese, neodymium, nickel, niobium, palladium, platinum, praseodymium, rhodium, rubidium, ruthenium, samarium, scandium, tantalum, tellurium, terbium, thulium, tin, titanium, tungsten, vanadium, ytterbium, yttrium, zinc and zirconium.

All these minerals, if not their indices, are found in the Gecamines concessions.

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