AVZ Discussion 2022

[Javman]

Why do they care so much about what we talk about? Does it change anything?

 

[ptlas]

Why do they care so much about what we talk about? Does it change anything?

Bitter losers or hoping to provoke a response that they can use.

 

[Woogr]

There’s a lot of confusion floating around, so let’s be clear: there will be no re-listing. AVZ is headed toward a final resolution — not a return to trading.

And there absolutely should not be a dividend, franked or otherwise. That would treat the payout as income, not capital, and shareholders would get hammered at their marginal tax rates.

What needs to happen is either:
• a share buyback, or
• a formal liquidation with a capital distribution.

Both of these would trigger a CGT event, allowing eligible long-term holders to access the CGT discount. That’s the correct structure — anything else risks handing a large chunk of the return straight to the Australian government who frankly have done fuck all to support us.

Given my limited experience I sure hope you’re right. Whatever the structure accessing our CGT discount is paramount.

 

[BRICK]

Batten down the hatches. The millennials have had too much to drink and are running amok and trashing the joint @zeeb0t

 

[Dijon101]

Lol completly missed that, with those numbers i will be able to buy a bigger boat.

Was trying to be really conservative with my numbers and show even with lower numbers how much its worth.
It's hard to calculate "fair value" when its the biggest in the world.
Also probably not the best thing to be comparing it to however it was recent

Kobolt better have deep pockets

p.s. If anyone thinks 0.63c is fair value im more than happy to take you up on that offer

CAN JUST ONE OF YOU CUNTS JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELVES PROPERLY INSTEAD OF CARRYING ON LIKE YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR 5 YEARS!!!

TUESDAYS A GOOD DAY FOR DRINKING....PRICKS!!!

 

[Winenut]

Bitter losers or hoping to provoke a response that they can use.

Watch out you'll be next on the auto delete

But more and more genuine posters have worked it out

There's cool AVZ shareholders and there's a few cntz

And the few cntz are getting well and truly found out.....on the forum....and off

Fuckem

They jumped in the bitter cess pool with the bad actors and they're swimmin' with their pants down

and they're only just finding out what happens in the deep end

Silly little boys.....

Silly little boys.......

 

[Samus]

Watch out you'll be next on the auto delete

But more and more genuine posters have worked it out

There's cool AVZ shareholders and there's a few cntz

And the few cntz are getting well and truly found out.....on the forum....and off

Fuckem

They jumped in the bitter cess pool with the bad actors and they're swimmin' with their pants down

and they're only just finding out what happens in the deep end

Silly little boys.....

Silly little boys.......

If this was my business Wino with many paid up posters like ourselves cancelling our memberships and getting driven off in droves, I'd be investigating this to the fullest extent of the law!

I wonder what @zeeb0t thinks

 

[Winenut]

If this was my business Wino with many paid up posters like ourselves cancelling our memberships and getting driven off in droves, I'd be investigating this to the fullest extent of the law!

No question that's already happened IMO

 

[Winenut]

CAN JUST ONE OF YOU CUNTS JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELVES PROPERLY INSTEAD OF CARRYING ON LIKE YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR 5 YEARS!!!

TUESDAYS A GOOD DAY FOR DRINKING....PRICKS!!!

Forget it Colonel Mustard

He's a f&king troll morphed out of plenty of other jerks that have frequented the forum

Give me a thumbs up (that's anyone on the forum) and see if this post is here withing the next 5 minutes

If it is that's great and I'll post again

If it's not well.......

 

[Winenut]

Screenshot

 

[Hudnut]

I don't think Zeeb0t is listening at all, and hasn't for ages. He's a one man band spread too thin across too many startups.
Sitting pretty while the membership subs come in for some chump change while he chases other rainbows.
I've cancelled my $5/month.
Happy to stay and wait out the cretins, but not paying for a service that isn't moderated or administered properly.

 

[Xerof]

I don't think Zeeb0t is listening at all, and hasn't for ages. He's a one man band spread too thin across too many startups.
Sitting pretty while the membership subs come in for some chump change while he chases other rainbows.
I've cancelled my $5/month.
Happy to stay and wait out the cretins, but not paying for a service that isn't moderated or administered properly.

Same

 

[Chancen1904]

Ich verstehe den Sinn nicht hier im Forum Posts zu löschen. Als wenn das irgendeinen Einfluss auf die Geschichte hätte....

 

[Samus]

I don't think Zeeb0t is listening at all, and hasn't for ages. He's a one man band spread too thin across too many startups.
Sitting pretty while the membership subs come in for some chump change while he chases other rainbows.
I've cancelled my $5/month.
Happy to stay and wait out the cretins, but not paying for a service that isn't moderated or administered properly.

If this was my business Hudnut with many paid up posters like ourselves cancelling our memberships and getting driven off in droves, I'd be investigating this to the fullest extent of the law.

 

[PutUsernameHere]

Wow, whole other thread disappeared. Talk about cards continuing to be stacked against us. Can't even have an open and free conversation. Censorship and stopping admin from blanket post-removing was the whole reason TSE was setup. Disappointing to see what it's becoming.

 

[LOCKY82]

Was there an avz whatsapp group? Maybe better to migrate there, via private message (if they're still private)

 

[Flight996]

Just FYI: ​

Congo faces rising military costs, tax shortfall in revised 'combat budget'​

By Sonia Rolley
May 27, 2025

Summary

• Budget revised downward, less tax revenue expected
• IMF has warned of war's strain on public finances
• Army officers still report shortages of food, ammunition

May 27 (Reuters) - Congo is grappling with soaring military costs and declining tax revenues due to an offensive by Rwandan-backed rebels, who now occupy much of the country's eastern borderlands, a revised wartime budget under consideration by lawmakers showed.

The International Monetary Fund said this month that the fighting was straining public finances, citing the closure of revenue collection offices in areas controlled by the M23 rebels and elevated security spending linked to the conflict.

Initially expected in mid-March, President Felix Tshisekedi's cabinet approved the budget bill on Friday. It now goes to parliament for debate and voting.

It includes slightly decreased spending of $17.2 billion, according to the minutes of the cabinet meeting, and reflects a drop in tax revenue to 12.5% of GDP from 15.1% expected under the original budget approved in December.

The finance ministry announced in March it was doubling salaries for soldiers and police in an apparent bid to boost morale. That move is expected to cost $500 million this year, a military official and a government source told Reuters.

Exceptional security-related expenditures cost the government estimated $1 billion in the first four months of 2025, two government sources said. All of the sources spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorised to disclose the figures.

A government spokesperson did not immediately respond on Tuesday to questions about the budget and military spending.

The domestic budget deficit widened to 0.8% of GDP in 2024 and is projected to reach 1.2% this year, Rene Tapsoba, the IMF's resident representative for Congo told Reuters.

The conflict and loss of control of territory in the east, which is home to lucrative gold, tin and coltan reserves, could account for a 4% shortfall in expected tax revenue, he said.

While noting that exceptional security expenditure was "very high", Tapsoba said the government had sought to reduce its operating expenditures by cutting the budgets of ministries and the salaries of the heads of institutions.

Despite ramped-up security spending, army officials still report persistent shortages of food, ammunition and basic equipment.

Much of the funding appears to have gone to arms procurement, one Congolese general told Reuters.

"The bulk of these funds are handled outside the formal budget framework," a senior official at the finance ministry said, asking not to be named as he was not authorised to speak to media. "We don't have full visibility either."

The war in the east has spotlighted entrenched problems in the military.

According to a Senate report this month, the army counts 268,602 personnel, including 74,000 deployed in combat zones. More than 36,000, however, are classified as inactive, among them 3,618 retired soldiers awaiting $145 million in unpaid benefits.

The United Nations and Western governments say Rwanda has provided arms and troops to M23. Rwanda denies backing the rebels and says its military has acted in self-defence against Congo's army and a militia founded by perpetrators of Rwanda's 1994 genocide.

Source:

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/congo-faces-rising-military-costs-tax-shortfall-revised-combat-budget-2025-05-27/

Cheers
F

 

[Samus]

Wow, whole other thread disappeared. Talk about cards continuing to be stacked against us. Can't even have an open and free conversation. Censorship and stopping admin from blanket post-removing was the whole reason TSE was setup. Disappointing to see what it's becoming.

Very interesting development that is. Clearly admin is around but they just can't be bothered addressing the issues we're facing here.

I've cancelled my membership sub too, as have all members who I've spoken with in private. Shame.

 

[lellep]

This does if anything show the desperation of our detractors. A resolution must be close and they can not stop it

 

[Bin59]

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