AVZ Discussion 2022

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Exactly this.

That's why I reckon anyone quoting prices... any price (apart from the meme of $12) is a traitor because all you are doing is sentiment signaling; which is only helpful to a buyer testing for softness. Same as downward pressure in trading. Price testing basically. Weak hands. All that shit. Fuck, you guys should know all this better than me.

Point being, if you are ok will a shit outcome as in cents in a dollar, why do you have to call it from the roof tops or spooge it all over the social apps? The truthful answer is you don't. You just have to shut up and wait and see how low it turns out. Right?

So then, what's the real reason you are shopping out lowball prices?
Exactly. $50.
 
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They're getting it with their 'security for minerals' deal, so that's a moot point once its signed. They can cry about the risk all they like, but it's a bs ruse when they're waiting for a 'security for minerals' deal to be implemented before handing over the cash, so if they dont offer 'fair value' and 'partial compensation' (their words, not ours) then it's no deal. They can go take advantage of the next mug
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ptlas

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Amovatio on the crapper:

Your point about the net worth of Bezoz, Gates and Bloomberg is precisely the point I was suggesting why AVZ should be looking at all options to secure the best possible price for Shareholders rather than simply the first group to put an offer forward.

The US has hardly been quiet about the need for critical minerals and rare earths and it will do nearly anything to support countries that will grant it access to these resources that doesn't include China in the supply chain.


I don’t feel the need to discuss price any further as I was buoyed by the announcement released by AVZ that it had in the discussions concerning US investment in the DRC, agreed to a non binding framework with Ko Bold Metals for the purchase of AVZ’s interest in the Manono project. I am certain AVZ is strongly aware of all shareholders interests and concerns, that is why it is considering all avenues to explore a resolution of the current issues.

Without access to these resources from Africa the electronics industry in the US was going to experience a supply shortage in critical and rare earth components. Kobold Metals Company decision to look at purchasing AVZ’s interest in the Manono Project is also very clear because without a balanced supply chain, the future was not looking good for the price of electronics equipment. US investment now holds the key to unlocking the potential to reducing this risk in the supply chain by guaranteeing access to these resources without China influence.

Yes, we have no ownership of land only a title over the tenement of Manono. But our intellectual property is significant. This is definitely something Bill Gates knows a lot about particularly how people pay for licensing.. Bill Gates and his mates are desperate to secure these resources from Africa.

AVZ went to Africa with Shareholder investment on a mission of exploration and discovery.What we uncovered through our exploration works was a behemoth in resources of every kind. If I can draw an analogy in history…. the discovery of Lithium in Africa would be similar to Gold being discovered in Australia back in the 1850's, such will be the impact of mining in the prosperity of the African people.

AVZ is conscious of the broader geopolitical challenges in achieving a resolution in relation to the Manono Project, however it appreciates the opportunity that has emerged to explore a resolution of the current issues relating to the Manono Project, which it will continue to pursue in a constructive and open manner in the best interests of its shareholders and other key stakeholders, including Suzhou CATH Energy Technologies.This to me is not a statement about selling out investors but one of achieving best outcomes for everyone concerned.

I am absolutely certain the Americans will look after their investment interests moving forward with the highest security and agree to pay a fair value to purchase our interests when the peace deal has been signed between the DRC and Rwanda.

In response to a few posts, I have read I am definitely not an Agent and most certainly haven’t lost my mind.I want a resolution to the current issues as much as everyone else that has held shares across the journey.

The Legal process AVZ has started was not the investor crusade we set out for but as shareholders I am sure most are grateful to our Management team and DLA piper Lawyers for their diligence to protect our investment against those that sought to send us broke. Like you I am confident our team will end up with a favourable outcome now that we have solid interest from wealthy western constituents.

Good luck to All and hope someone kicks off the AVZ Investor party to celebrate the resolution when this is all behind us.
 
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Apologies if it’s come across as crude on my end. I need to take a rest from here. I understand the situation AVZ has found itself but in now way the board should entertain 40c offers.

ISCID route or fuck off if that’s the case. People bang on about that route taking forever etc etc. they do realise we can negotiate an exit post ISCID??? Our hand will be much much stronger with good legal title settled, a compensation claim in the back pocket and we can enter negotiations from a position of power. Sure it will piss off DRC but fuck then after the way they’ve treated our company.

It can still go to the USA but we’d have ownership sorted so that whole “risk” as they bang on about for fair compo won’t be a factor. It will also open up compensation for the north.

It boggles my mind people on X are crying over the ISCID route. These same people that probably bought in a mill shares at 2c…. They don’t give a fuck about anyone else but themselves. It’s the people who bought in above 80c range on avg that will lose a lot. They need to be looked after at the bare minimum. 40c won’t cut it.
With a 40 cent buyout....I would be half a mill under water...as you say @PhatCatz ...Shareholders who bought in higher, deserve at least to get out even....not a cent less after all that debacle...ALL TIME HIGH at 1.36 $ is the lowest price for a $tarting point to negotiate....
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Yaseen

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I say let ppl have their opinions, we'll never all agree, sometimes just gotta agree to disagree. For me, hell yes I want the money, and even at $1 its decent bucks considering my entries and amount of shares, but that is not the point, Im sick of greedy pigs trying to take advantage of ppl, so on principle alone I'm seeking ATH as an absolute base offer (then let's see what other bidders may join the race), because we (and Kobold/CATH/Cominiere/Zijin/Felix/Arabs/Dathomir/boatman/tommy/Blackrock/etc) all know it's worth a hell of a lot more all things considered.

Anyone of us could die by being hit by a bus tomorrow or we could live until we are over 100, so I dont want to hear 'it'll take years to get our $10b' because we might not even be around tomorrow to get even get $1, so let's stick to our guns and push the lowballers aside.

Maybe we should just be awarded Felix' $8b he's got over their in his swiss accounts, I wonder how much of that is from Zijin
 
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aon

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Exactly this.

That's why I reckon anyone quoting prices... any price (apart from the meme of $12) is a traitor because all you are doing is sentiment signaling; which is only helpful to a buyer testing for softness. Same as downward pressure in trading. Price testing basically. Weak hands. All that shit. Fuck, you guys should know all this better than me.

Point being, if you are ok will a shit outcome as in cents in a dollar, why do you have to call it from the roof tops or spooge it all over the social apps? The truthful answer is you don't. You just have to shut up and wait and see how low it turns out. Right?

So then, what's the real reason you are shopping out lowball prices?
Okay done, point accepted, 12 bucks USD it is, I can live with that. Great to have some concrete rules we can all agree on.
 
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hedrox

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Surely shareholders aren't going to forget that the UAE are more than likely looking to come to the table as well??

A first offer/bid is always a great way to get the party started.

It only takes one to start a bidding war.

And as always. With negotiation. Never accept the first offer. I have faith that Nigel would do us justice
I talked earlier about a few takeover scenarios in my past trading history. Every takeover I experienced started with one bidder and ended up with at least 2 bidders and in some takeover stories even several bidders. and funnily in every bidding war the Chinese made the last and biggest offer. The silence of any Chinese bidder for Manano till now...doesnt mean they aren't lurking. I wouldn't be surprised to see more parties coming to the table....I don't think Kobold are the only bidders.
We don't know if Nigel is communicating with other players...but we know the MOU is not binding...
anything can happen from now....watch out for the Leftfield.
And Kobold knows that as well...they have to offer the right coin to nail it down..
Good luck everybody
 
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Winenut

Go AVZ!
For the record $12….$12….$12!!! is not a meme

It is (and always has been) from it’s inception a genuine “anchoring strategy” within the realm of social media in the potential negotiation of a sale price/value of AVZ shares and any possible influence that might have on actual players and events in the real market.

Yes used from time to time with a level of humour but always the intent was deadly fucking serious

Get it in your heads everyone……everyone…..

$12….$12….$12!!!

$12!!!!!!!!


umm….$US

:cool:
 
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For the record $12….$12….$12!!! is not a meme

It is (and always has been) from it’s inception a genuine “anchoring strategy” within the realm of social media in the potential negotiation of a sale price/value of AVZ shares and any possible influence that might have on actual players and events in the real market.

Yes used from time to time with a level of humour but always the intent was deadly fucking serious

Get it in your heads everyone……everyone…..

$12….$12….$12!!!

$12!!!!!!!!


umm….$US

:cool:
GROK forgot the 1 before the 2, oh and the correct currency
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ptlas

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For the record $12….$12….$12!!! is not a meme

It is (and always has been) from it’s inception a genuine “anchoring strategy” within the realm of social media in the potential negotiation of a sale price/value of AVZ shares and any possible influence that might have on actual players and events in the real market.

Yes used from time to time with a level of humour but always the intent was deadly fucking serious

Get it in your heads everyone……everyone…..

$12….$12….$12!!!

$12!!!!!!!!


umm….$US

:cool:
For the record $12….$12….$12!!! is not a meme

It is (and always has been) from it’s inception a genuine “anchoring strategy” within the realm of social media in the potential negotiation of a sale price/value of AVZ shares and any possible influence that might have on actual players and events in the real market.

Yes used from time to time with a level of humour but always the intent was deadly fucking serious

Get it in your heads everyone……everyone…..

$12….$12….$12!!!

$12!!!!!!!!


umm….$US

🤑

Wino and I have both been seriously promoting this price for years.

A few days ago, I gave figures to justify it.

Those figures were conservative for many reasons.

PS mate, do you need to change your handle, or are you leaving all options open?
 
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For the record $12….$12….$12!!! is not a meme

It is (and always has been) from it’s inception a genuine “anchoring strategy” within the realm of social media in the potential negotiation of a sale price/value of AVZ shares and any possible influence that might have on actual players and events in the real market.

Yes used from time to time with a level of humour but always the intent was deadly fucking serious

Get it in your heads everyone……everyone…..

$12….$12….$12!!!

$12!!!!!!!!


umm….$US

:cool:

I guess what I meant was that is has become a meme. Even though, from what I remember there were actually some serious calculations that ended up at $12.00 per share if you rounded down.

Can't remember if it was your calcs or someone else's Wino. Why don't you remind us again.

$12….$12….$12!!!















USD
 
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