AVZ Discussion 2022

Dave Evans

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Great news but still a long way to go. Nice to have a bit of super positive news for a change.

Looks like Nigel has been earning his keep.

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I know KoBold have said let Zijin have the North. Its a shame that scum will get anything but what we MUST get is compensation for the North. If KoBold want zijin to keep that's on them but then they have to pay us for it. So the way I see see it is 'fair compensation' is for the WHOLE 13359 in its original form. Bring the checkbook Bezos
I think we are in one of those grey areas where we need to get "fair value" - without publicly being too defined on what the fair value is for... everyone needs to save face here and there is a reason management said effectively "cool it guys you are not helping negotiations" regarding the social media stuff.

On the one hand it seems like good news, on the other hand Zijin gets the north (including CDL and our camp with the core library), we suspend ICSID arbitration, and KoBold comes in taking all the credit while acquiescing to the fat thief, and until we know different KoBold isn’t offering us anything substantial

Some here already suggested we would lose the north and the ICSID case would be suspended, and while this announcement regarding a settlement should be an occasion for celebration, it doesn’t feel like that to me

Most likely the fat thief said to KoBold, I’ll sign the license over to you if you force AVZ to drop the ICSID arbitration and stop their shareholders exposing my corruption, then I can go on lying to the people of the DRC and not have my record of corruption made public to the whole world through the ICSID

I’m just disappointed that we were finally in the position of a major legal win and now we suspend the ICSID case. As far as shareholders comments affecting negotiations, that’s bullshit, and seeing we have no sway in the negotiations there’s no reason we should be locked out of commenting as well

I put over half a million dollars into AVZ so KoBold, the fat idiot and anyone else who doesn’t want shareholders to comment can just put us on ignore, because it’s not going to happen


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Azzler

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Some complete dorks :censored: invested everything into AVZ and their outlook is just happy to be out of this mess and be able to move on with their lives.
Lessons learned and I know I wasn't the only dork.

Whatever we get, I'll be just so thankful to be able to move on.
 
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Dave Evans

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Wow, I hope that wasn't when the SP was $1 !!!

What's your average?

No mate, it’s pretty low but that doesn’t mean not fighting for fair value. As many have said, we have been stuck now for 3 years and I imagine most of us thought we might be getting dividends by now.

What would really piss me off is if AVZ didn’t pass all the cash back to us and decided to use some of it to start another project.

That happened with Altura Mining and those shares are worthless now, and Leo Lithium is doing the same with its second tranche to shareholders now going toward another project. An absolute fuck up by Leo Lithium so I voted against all their resolutions at their upcoming AGM
 
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BRICK

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Great news but still a long way to go. Nice to have a bit of super positive news for a change.

Looks like Nigel has been earning his keep.

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This one?
 
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Panther22

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I think we will end up with a "Happy to be out of this shitshow and the DRC".
But UNHAPPY with the end result, the sale price and the fact that all the bad eggs will walk away scott free and no fines to be paid, no ICSID to expose their corrupt ways.

Lesson learnt the hard way. No more investing for me other than a Term Deposit.
 
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Winenut

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Fuck it.....

$12....$12....$12!!!
 
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And I want my real beach house; one where the sounds of surf and rust keep me awake at night.
I think we will end up with a "Happy to be out of this shitshow and the DRC".

Lesson learnt the hard way. No more investing for me other than a Term Deposit.

...until the next under-valued monster grabs your attention. You may all pay a little more attention to jurisdiction and management next time, but there will be a next time.
There certainly will be for me.

Cheers
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LOCKY82

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No mate, it’s pretty low but that doesn’t mean not fighting for fair value. As many have said, we have been stuck now for 3 years and I imagine most of us thought we might be getting dividends by now.

What would really piss me off is if AVZ didn’t pass all the cash back to us and decided to use some of it to start another project.

That happened with Altura Mining and those shares are worthless now, and Leo Lithium is doing the same with its second tranche to shareholders now going toward another project. An absolute fuck up by Leo Lithium so I voted against all their resolutions at their upcoming AGM
Is it worth all sh's writing an email to the board that we in no way want another project to be considered, that we as sh's want the company fully wound up and to be paid out??

I'd imagine most here would lose their shit if they went off and tried to prolong our misery any further
 
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Skar

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Fuck it.....

$12....$12....$12!!!

If we kept a royalty and/or our equity we could probably get to that level of value in time but up front with 3.5B shares on issue, thats what 42 billion mc?

...until the next under-valued monster grabs your attention. You may all pay a little more attention to jurisdiction and management next time, but there will be a next time.
There certainly will be for me.
For me the next one is EUR, I can't remember if they settled ownership on all those Ukraine tenements pre war or not.
 
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Just some interesting reading
 
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Just some interesting reading
Is there a source? So KoBold will compensate for our “lost” north portion? Zijin still keeps the water they’ve diverted, the power station they’ve stolen and the core library and all of those other assets? For free? This is just not right on principals. I want to go to ISCID and make those fuckers pay!!!

Also as the snippet says this sets a really really bad precedent for the DRC and any potential suitors for investment. “Hey guys, we can just ignore the mining code and you can pay your way to mining licences. It doesn’t matter who has good legal title it goes to the highest bidder”

Fuck that shit.
 
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llhtom

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No mate, it’s pretty low but that doesn’t mean not fighting for fair value. As many have said, we have been stuck now for 3 years and I imagine most of us thought we might be getting dividends by now.

What would really piss me off is if AVZ didn’t pass all the cash back to us and decided to use some of it to start another project.

That happened with Altura Mining and those shares are worthless now, and Leo Lithium is doing the same with its second tranche to shareholders now going toward another project. An absolute fuck up by Leo Lithium so I voted against all their resolutions at their upcoming AGM
I agree with your sentiment. I would hope that AVZ paying it out to shareholders as a special dividend. Resume trading and we can get out of it.
 
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BEISHA

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AUSTRALIAN ARTICLE

Aussie miner AVZ in sale agreement with Gates, Bezos-backed KoBold
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Perth-based AVZ Minerals has defied the odds to reach a geopolitically significant deal to sell a giant lithium project in Africa to a US company backed by Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos.

The deal between AVZ and KoBold Metals over the Manono project in the Democratic Republic of Congo shapes as the linchpin in a critical mineral pact between the Trump administration and the strife-torn nation.

Both the US government and DRC president Felix Tshisekedi are understood to support the deal between AVZ and KoBold thrashed out in Washington.

The sale price remains unclear but the deal is set to trigger an initial investment of more than $US1bn ($1.55bn) in Manono from KoBold, and is a rebuff to Chinese interests in Africa.

AVZ’s market capitalisation got to $4.6bn in 2022 on high hopes for Manono but fell from grace as it lost control of the massive hard rock deposit that has been likened to the world leading Greenbushes lithium mine in Western Australia.

In a joint statement, AVZ and KoBold said they recognised that “rapid, ethical development of the Manono lithium deposit should play a role in supporting peace and security”.

Their deal was struck against a backdrop of the DRC seeking US protection from Rwanda-backed M23 rebels that have caused havoc and overrun parts of the resources-rich country.

The statement, signed by AVZ chief executive Nigel Ferguson and his KoBold counterpart Kurt House, said they had advanced the peace process by reaching consensus on a commercial framework to enable the rapid development of Manono.

“This framework entails AVZ selling its commercial interest in the Manono lithium deposit to KoBold for fair value,” it said.

“The agreement will enable KoBold to rapidly deploy more than $US1bn to bring the Manono lithium to Western markets.

“The development of Manono will create thousands of high paying Congolese jobs for decades. AVZ enthusiastically endorses KoBold’s approach to investing in local talent.”

AVZ and KoBold said they were working with “all possible speed” to conclude the sale.

“AVZ and KoBold are working cooperatively with all stakeholders, including the US government, the DRC government, and AVZ’s current development partner,” they said.

The Australian understands Mr Tshisekedi has given his blessing to the AVZ-KoBold deal. Mr Tshisekedi is thought to have told US special envoy Massad Boulos and other stakeholders that he’d been looking for a solution to the Manono “problem” for a long time and found it in the AVZ-KoBold agreement.

AVZ scored a partial victory over the DRC and giant Chinese miner Zijin in the International Court of Arbitration of the International Chamber of Commerce (ICC) in March.

The company, whose shares were delisted in 2024, maintains the DRC acted illegally by taking over its permit over the whole of Manono and then awarding the northern portion to a Zijin subsidiary in September 2023.

AVZ will propose to the DRC government that they suspend the international arbitration proceedings to facilitate discussions on handing back its licence to clear the way for the KoBold deal.

Sources close to Mr Ferguson said he had been working tirelessly in Washington to secure the best possible deal for AVZ shareholders given there is no guarantee the DRC would adhere to any eventual arbitration ruling in AVZ’s favour. The ICC awarded a $67.5m penalty against DRC-owned mining company Cominière in March because it ignored previous emergency orders in the dispute.

AVZ has asked some of its disgruntled shareholders to show restraint in social media posts on the DRC and its government given the delicate state of negotiations on Manono.

The Australian broke the news of Washington’s unlikely advocacy for AVZ back in March and then flagged the deal with California-based KoBold.

Mr Boulos, the father-in-law of Mr Trump’s daughter Tiffany and his adviser on Arab and Middle Eastern affairs, was sent to Kinshasa early last month, to discuss a critical minerals pact with the DRC in return for security.

Manono boasts an 842 million tonne resource at 1.61 per cent lithium oxide and is split into two geographically distinct northern and southern deposits. The southern part alone, sometimes referred to as Roche Dure, holds a 669 million tonne resource.

The US has indicated it is willing to back AVZ retrieving the southern licence to minimise antagonising China with Zijin well advanced in developing the northern deposit.

It is understood both the US and KoBold favour a change of ownership based on AVZ and the DRC discontinuing legal action.

The US also wants any sale by AVZ to not be complicated by links to China’s CATL – the world’s biggest electric vehicle battery manufacturer, which in January provided $20m in funding to AVZ to help the company finance the legal battle for Manono.

Gates and Bezos-backed mining and artificial intelligence start-up KoBold may opt to bring in a partner to help develop Manono.

The project has also caught the eye of Rio Tinto, which has so far refused to comment on any interest.

The Australian has also reported that other her assets on the US radar in the DRC include cobalt and copper deposits controlled by Trafigura-backed Chemaf. Dubai-based Chemaf reportedly failed to gain DRC approval for a sale to an arm of Chinese state-owned defence manufacturer Norinco Group

China already has a significant presence in the DRC, which is rich in copper, cobalt, tin and uranium.

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Thanks Elmitso for sharing this.......well, looks like the drum beat is getting faster.

A few points on reading this.

a) The Australian understands Mr Tshisekedi has given his blessing to the AVZ-KoBold deal. Mr Tshisekedi is thought to have told US special envoy Massad Boulos and other stakeholders that he’d been looking for a solution to the Manono “problem” for a long time and found it in the AVZ-KoBold agreement.

Laughable! ( breathe Beisha, show restraint )

b) Sources close to Mr Ferguson said he had been working tirelessly in Washington to secure the best possible deal for AVZ shareholders given there is no guarantee the DRC would adhere to any eventual arbitration ruling in AVZ’s favour.

Good on you Nige...........and too true.

c) AVZ has asked some of its disgruntled shareholders to show restraint in social media posts on the DRC and its government given the delicate state of negotiations on Manono.

@Stockinvesting ........does Nige need to grow up ?

d) The US has indicated it is willing to back AVZ retrieving the southern licence to minimise antagonising China with Zijin well advanced in developing the northern deposit.

So farken Zijin get rewarded for stealth ? Not happy Jan, AVZ better get good compensation !!!!

e) It is understood both the US and KoBold favour a change of ownership based on AVZ and the DRC discontinuing legal action.

Legals better be as tight as a fishes arsehole ! Money in the bank prior, not a DRC bank either ...:poop::ninja::rolleyes:

f) The US also wants any sale by AVZ to not be complicated by links to China’s CATL

Bye bye too faced Cath......you have been stiffed.

g ) AVZ and KoBold said they were working with “all possible speed” to conclude the sale.


Great, then 21000 shareholders can reclaim their financial lives after 3 yrs of misery..........the big question remains, what is " FAIR VALUE " ?

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Thanks Don, but i aint sucking you off......yet. ( sorry @Nellie17 )

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It better be good !
 
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Frank

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And I want my real beach house; one where the sounds of surf and rust keep me awake at night.


...until the next under-valued monster grabs your attention. You may all pay a little more attention to jurisdiction and management next time, but there will be a next time.
There certainly will be for me.

Cheers
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*Time to Fasten our Seatbelts by the look of it as AVZ taxis to the runway Flight 996 departing for Beach house in Bahamas 🙏

Gates, Bezos-backed KoBold to buy stake in DRC lithium project

KoBold Metals, the mining startup backed by Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos, is expanding its footprint into the Democratic Republic of the Congo after inking a framework deal to buy AVZ Mineral’s stake in the Manono lithium deposit. The agreement aims...


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*Time to Fasten our Seatbelts by the look of it as AVZ taxis to the runway Flight 996 departing for Beach house in Bahamas 🙏

Gates, Bezos-backed KoBold to buy stake in DRC lithium project

KoBold Metals, the mining startup backed by Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos, is expanding its footprint into the Democratic Republic of the Congo after inking a framework deal to buy AVZ Mineral’s stake in the Manono lithium deposit. The agreement aims...


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