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whales

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I find it best with all things regarding AVZ to deal in what can be proved. Judging by who got the most likes tho it would seem the masses still after all that’s happened prefer feel good sentiment over facts.

While we’re on the subject of people responding to emotion rather than logic I would like to wish a happy day 974 of suspension to everyone. I’m sure the licence should ‘probably’ drop any day now lol
AVZ to deal with what can be proved.
Hi Carlos to your knowledge .
Can the ICC Court of Arbitration influence and put a halt on illegal minerals being exported ?
Considering the 4 major ports at Lobito
Der Es Salaam, Durban, Walvis Bay are not owned or controlled by China .
DRC is a member of ICC at the moment but once found guilty of the illegal attempt to steal Manono?
DRC and Zijin need to cut a deal otherwise China will have to build its own rail and port.
Even then higher tariffs from lithium from DRC could be imposed.
 
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At least 102 men have been executed in the Democratic Republic of Congo in the past week, with another 70 still set to be killed, officials have said.




At least 102 men have been executed in the Democratic Republic of Congo in the past week, with another 70 still set to be killed, officials have said.
According to the Central African country’s Minister of Justice, the men, who were armed robbers and “urban bandits”, were executed at Angenga prison.
Last week, 45 of the men, aged 18 to 35, were killed while the remaining 57 died within the last 48 hours. A flight from Kinshasa carrying “the third batch” of prisoners has arrived at Angenga, Minister of Justice Constant Mutamba said, though it’s unclear when their execution will occur.

The Democratic Republic of Congo Armed Forces. Picture: Seros Muyisa/AFP
The DRC controversially announced in March that it was ending a 20-year moratorium on the death penalty, which it would impose and carry out in, among other offences, cases of treason, war crimes, crimes against humanity, espionage, rebellion and criminal conspiracy.
The country abolished capital punishment in 1981, and while it was later reinstated in 2006, the last execution took place in 2003.
President Felix Tshisekedi said the decision was made “with a view to ridding the DRC army of traitors on the one hand and curbing the resurgence of acts of urban terrorism resulting in the death of men on the other”.

France's President Emmanuel Macron (R) and the President of the Democratic Republic of the Congo Felix Tshisekedi (L) in April 2024. Picture: Christophe Ena/AFP
The move sparked outcry from human rights groups, with activist Espoir Muhinuka telling the Associated Press that political pressure could lead to unjust convictions and arbitrary executions.
“The situation in the DRC is complex and requires a multidimensional approach,” he said.
“The fight against urban gangs must go hand-in-hand with efforts to combat poverty, unemployment and social exclusion, which are often contributing factors to crime.”

Amnesty International’s regional director for East and Southern Africa, Tigere Chagutah, said last year that the decision endangered the lives of hundreds of people who have been sentenced to death.

“The government’s decision to reinstate executions is a gross injustice for people sentenced to death in the Democratic Republic of Congo and shows a callous disregard for the right to life,” Mr Chagutah said.
“It is a huge step backwards for the country and a further sign that Tshisekedi administration is backtracking on its commitment to respect human rights.
“Whether those who have been sentenced to death are in the national army or police, in armed groups or have been involved in gang violence, everyone has a right to life and for that right to be protected.”
 
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Surely they must have this mixed up with the other Congo. We know that in DRC the Chinese only ever act with the highest ethical standards and in full compliance with all laws and regulations.



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tolate

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Dont forget AVZ B O D G J was charged for FORGERY and found guilty by the DRC court system..!
Sentenced to 3 years jail....?????>>>!!!!!

Cong then attempted to claim the new share certificate issued by the RCCM was a forgery and perhaps inexplicably, managed to convince a criminal court in the DRC of his claim. Perhaps even more inexplicably, the court found in favour of Cong and Dathomir and sentenced Johnston and the clerk responsible for creating new share certificates to three years’ jail and one year in jail, respectively – although happily, the clerk had his jail term suspended
 

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They stole extra. Just incase the brown paper bag , get out of jail maneuver was needed . They will go straight to Cong's hotel for a massage, drinks , a 5 course meal with hookers , and after party .
Wasn’t that our dream ? minus the cong’s hotel part 😆 JAG’s Beach house 😃
 
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cruiser51

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Surely they must have this mixed up with the other Congo. We know that in DRC the Chinese only ever act with the highest ethical standards and in full compliance with all laws and regulations.



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They thought your land is my land.

I wonder why they are sitting on leather chairs for thieving from the country
 
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tolate

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It’s clear that the world is still very much focused on the DRC. Which is good news overall, as we have the means to irreparably tarnish their reputation on the world stage.

The best thing for us to do is to defend our rights at the ICC and ICSID (those fees need to be paid asap) - until a deal is signed, sealed and delivered, which gets us out of this sh-thole for a strong profit for all AVZ stakeholders. Or we go the whole way, and bury them and their reputation.

Comical that the AFR wrote this piece after years of piling on crap about AVZ. Short-term memory for sure
Us helping the DRC

The-us-wants-bhp-and-rio-to-get-crazy-rich-in-the-congo.

The U. S. is supporting BHP and Rio Tinto’s efforts to develop a large copper mine in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC).
According to a recent article, the U.S. government believes it has a solution to the single problem BHP and Rio Tinto see with the mine developed by American billionaire Robert Friedland’s company,
Ivanhoe Mines. This initiative aims to capitalize on the DRC’s substantial mineral wealth, which is estimated at $24 trillion, despite the country being among the poorest in the world.

The U.S. is working to break the link between conflict and minerals trade in the eastern DRC, in collaboration with the Congolese government, donors, the private sector, and civil society.
 

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This sounds like just another DRC pantomime.

Sadiki appears to be using the old political trick of arresting a few low level operators while dog-whistling ministerial support in order to give the appearance of a serious crack-down on illegal activities that derive the government of tax revenue.

Meanwhile industrial scale graft and corruption continue unabated throughout the country... and with Felix's finger prints all over it.
 
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China’s Zijin Plans Lithium Production in Congo From Early 2026​

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China’s Zijin Mining Group Co. aims to start producing lithium in the Democratic Republic of Congo early next year from one of the world’s largest deposits of the battery metal.
Zijin is accelerating activity at a site in southeast Congo that’s still claimed by AVZ Minerals Ltd. The Australian firm has initiated arbitration proceedings against both the government and Zijin as part of its efforts to recover an exploration license.
 
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China’s Zijin Plans Lithium Production in Congo From Early 2026​

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China’s Zijin Mining Group Co. aims to start producing lithium in the Democratic Republic of Congo early next year from one of the world’s largest deposits of the battery metal.
Zijin is accelerating activity at a site in southeast Congo that’s still claimed by AVZ Minerals Ltd. The Australian firm has initiated arbitration proceedings against both the government and Zijin as part of its efforts to recover an exploration license.

China’s Zijin Plans Lithium Production in Congo From Early 2026​

By William Clowes
January 07, 2025 at 12:00AM EST
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Lithium Photographer: Cynthia R Matonhodze/Bloomberg (Cynthia R Matonhodze/Bloomberg)
(Bloomberg) -- China’s Zijin Mining Group Co. aims to start producing lithium in the Democratic Republic of Congo early next year from one of the world’s largest deposits of the battery metal.

Zijin is accelerating activity at a site in southeast Congo that’s still claimed by AVZ Minerals Ltd. The Australian firm has initiated arbitration proceedings against both the government and Zijin as part of its efforts to recover an exploration license.

The Manono project is expected to start production during the first quarter of 2026, a Zijin spokesperson said by email. That would make it the first operating lithium mine in Congo, the world’s second-largest copper producer and biggest source of cobalt.

Chinese companies including Zijin are investing heavily in Africa’s lithium resources from Mali to Zimbabwe, even after prices slumped almost 90% from a peak in 2022. They are seeking to lock down feedstock for refineries at home in anticipation of soaring future consumption of the metal.

While the current supply glut will likely continue in the short term, there is still “room for demand from the global new energy vehicle and energy storage industries” over a longer horizon, Zijin said in September. The company’s other lithium projects are in China and Argentina.


Zijin – which has copper, gold, lithium and zinc mines across five continents – is developing Manono in a joint venture with the Congolese state and was granted a full mining license four months ago. The asset is “sizable,” with an average grade of 1.51% lithium oxide, the spokesperson said.

Legal Dispute

Explorer AVZ has said the wider area is “the world’s largest hard rock lithium deposit.”

Perth-based AVZ has accused Congo of acting illegally by taking over its whole permit and then awarding the northern portion to a unit of Zijin in September 2023. AVZ said arbitration tribunals have ordered Zijin’s state-owned partner to halt any move to develop the contested permit area until they hear the cases. The government is “in blatant violation of several injunctions,” an AVZ spokesperson said by email.

AVZ said last month that the Australian Federal Police searched its premises concerning allegations of bribery related to the Manono lithium project. The company has denied any wrongdoing.

If Zijin builds a mine on a scale envisaged by AVZ in a 2020 study, only a few giant projects in No. 1 producer Australia, such as Albemarle Corp.’s Greenbushes, and the recently opened Goulamina in Mali, would be bigger, said Thomas Matthews, battery materials analyst at CRU Group.

Previous studies indicate Manono should be profitable even at current weak prices, he said.

Zijin is “in full compliance” with all legal and regulatory requirements in Congo, the spokesperson said. “We are very pleased to have received the Manono exploitation permit and our priority now is to proceed with developing it,” the spokesperson said.

The Chinese company declined to say what output level it’s targeting, but intends to commission the processing plant in phases. While the joint venture will begin by manufacturing and exporting lithium concentrate and sulfate, Zijin will consider doing additional refining in Manono when there’s a reliable power supply, the spokesperson said. A subsidiary has already rehabilitated a nearby hydroelectric facility.

Zijin also has interests in two copper mines in Congo, including a 39.6% stake in the giant Kamoa-Kakula complex, which is a partnership with Ivanhoe Mines Ltd.

Congo’s mines ministry didn’t respond to a request for comment.


--With assistance from Annie Lee and Michael J. Kavanagh.

©2025 Bloomberg L.P.

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China’s Zijin Plans Lithium Production in Congo From Early 2026​

By William Clowes
January 07, 2025 at 12:00AM EST
TDD4AJXNSNBTNEPO5BPC54KV7M.jpg

Lithium Photographer: Cynthia R Matonhodze/Bloomberg (Cynthia R Matonhodze/Bloomberg)
(Bloomberg) -- China’s Zijin Mining Group Co. aims to start producing lithium in the Democratic Republic of Congo early next year from one of the world’s largest deposits of the battery metal.

Zijin is accelerating activity at a site in southeast Congo that’s still claimed by AVZ Minerals Ltd. The Australian firm has initiated arbitration proceedings against both the government and Zijin as part of its efforts to recover an exploration license.

The Manono project is expected to start production during the first quarter of 2026, a Zijin spokesperson said by email. That would make it the first operating lithium mine in Congo, the world’s second-largest copper producer and biggest source of cobalt.

Chinese companies including Zijin are investing heavily in Africa’s lithium resources from Mali to Zimbabwe, even after prices slumped almost 90% from a peak in 2022. They are seeking to lock down feedstock for refineries at home in anticipation of soaring future consumption of the metal.

While the current supply glut will likely continue in the short term, there is still “room for demand from the global new energy vehicle and energy storage industries” over a longer horizon, Zijin said in September. The company’s other lithium projects are in China and Argentina.


Zijin – which has copper, gold, lithium and zinc mines across five continents – is developing Manono in a joint venture with the Congolese state and was granted a full mining license four months ago. The asset is “sizable,” with an average grade of 1.51% lithium oxide, the spokesperson said.

Legal Dispute

Explorer AVZ has said the wider area is “the world’s largest hard rock lithium deposit.”

Perth-based AVZ has accused Congo of acting illegally by taking over its whole permit and then awarding the northern portion to a unit of Zijin in September 2023. AVZ said arbitration tribunals have ordered Zijin’s state-owned partner to halt any move to develop the contested permit area until they hear the cases. The government is “in blatant violation of several injunctions,” an AVZ spokesperson said by email.

AVZ said last month that the Australian Federal Police searched its premises concerning allegations of bribery related to the Manono lithium project. The company has denied any wrongdoing.

If Zijin builds a mine on a scale envisaged by AVZ in a 2020 study, only a few giant projects in No. 1 producer Australia, such as Albemarle Corp.’s Greenbushes, and the recently opened Goulamina in Mali, would be bigger, said Thomas Matthews, battery materials analyst at CRU Group.

Previous studies indicate Manono should be profitable even at current weak prices, he said.

Zijin is “in full compliance” with all legal and regulatory requirements in Congo, the spokesperson said. “We are very pleased to have received the Manono exploitation permit and our priority now is to proceed with developing it,” the spokesperson said.

The Chinese company declined to say what output level it’s targeting, but intends to commission the processing plant in phases. While the joint venture will begin by manufacturing and exporting lithium concentrate and sulfate, Zijin will consider doing additional refining in Manono when there’s a reliable power supply, the spokesperson said. A subsidiary has already rehabilitated a nearby hydroelectric facility.

Zijin also has interests in two copper mines in Congo, including a 39.6% stake in the giant Kamoa-Kakula complex, which is a partnership with Ivanhoe Mines Ltd.

Congo’s mines ministry didn’t respond to a request for comment.


--With assistance from Annie Lee and Michael J. Kavanagh.

©2025 Bloomberg L.P.

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thanks wombat. makes my blood boil reading that though.
 
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ptlas

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This sounds like just another DRC pantomime.

Sadiki appears to be using the old political trick of arresting a few low level operators while dog-whistling ministerial support in order to give the appearance of a serious crack-down on illegal activities that derive the government of tax revenue.

Meanwhile industrial scale graft and corruption continue unabated throughout the country... and with Felix's finger prints all over it.
Corruption in the DRC is endemic and on an industrial scale, as it is in much of the third world.
It is called the 'third world' for a reason and using 'developing' is just woke.

In time, the old guard will give way to the new. The only doubts are when? and who exactly is new?
That will be decided by power struggles between clans and also within clans.

Any semblance of removing bad apples is merely cosmetic, and just like botox is soon obviously fake.

DRC will come to the table, when there really is no other alternative. At what point that stage is reached, I really have no idea.
What I do know is that there is very little, if anything, that will make the CCP compel DRC to negotiate.

So AVZ, by following the current policy ( as I understand it ), is addressing the issues by the only feasible route.
How / if it's successful and when is another unknown.
 
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Zijin is “in full compliance” with all legal and regulatory requirements in Congo, the spokesperson said. “We are very pleased to have received the Manono exploitation permit and our priority now is to proceed with developing it,” the spokesperson said.

That quote makes me puke

Show me one shred of evidence that Zijin complied at any point with the DRC mining code and regulations in the process of obtaining a licence

Fkn arseholes .....and Cominiere

Bunch of cnts all of them
 
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Costi

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I’ve been out of the loop for a few years now put this one in the bottom draw
Can anyone put simply what’s been going on? Are we ever going to see our money?
Has anyone done any off market trades?

Cheers guys best of luck
 
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Zijin is “in full compliance” with all legal and regulatory requirements in Congo, the spokesperson said. “We are very pleased to have received the Manono exploitation permit and our priority now is to proceed with developing it,” the spokesperson said.

That quote makes me puke

Show me one shred of evidence that Zijin complied at any point with the DRC mining code and regulations in the process of obtaining a licence

Fkn arseholes .....and Cominiere

Bunch of cnts all of them
I appreciate management don’t have to respond to every social media quote. But maybe they could respond to Bloomberg? Pretty wild zinjin just out there saying whatever they like.
 
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tolate

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I appreciate management don’t have to respond to every social media quote. But maybe they could respond to Bloomberg? Pretty wild zinjin just out there saying whatever they like.
Yes sounds like Zinjin full steam ahead
 

wombat74

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thanks wombat. makes my blood boil reading that though.
It's f--ked , but not surprised .Nothing new in this article . The North is gone . I'm just hoping, now we have funding to f--k these c--ts over at the ICSID , the North becomes part of a bargaining chip whereby we keep the South as a trade off . This sh1t needs to come to an end .I'll ask @Carlos Danger again, if he still believes the North is the hold up ?
 
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tolate

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Zijin is “in full compliance” with all legal and regulatory requirements in Congo, the spokesperson said. “We are very pleased to have received the Manono exploitation permit and our priority now is to proceed with developing it,” the spokesperson said.

That quote makes me puke

Show me one shred of evidence that Zijin complied at any point with the DRC mining code and regulations in the process of obtaining a licence

Fkn arseholes .....and Cominiere

Bunch of cnts all of them
Have been granted a full mining license
Also sorted the power situation
Maybe AVZ is on the outer looking in…!!..imo
 
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