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wombat74

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My take on it this

The DRC (Cominiere) violated our FROR, illegally sold 15% of Dathcom to Zijin and then illegally seized our project (Easily proved in ICC and ICSID).

Even though Zijin was part of this collusion they know it was Cominiere who broke the law. It was actually Zijin who released the tape of Kibeya taking the bribe and then made threats to Cominiere if Cominiere broke their agreement.

Since then Cominiere has used Zijin’s lawyers to fight their case because they are broke.

Sama Lukonde, Adele Kayinda, Antoinette N’samba, Athanase Mwamba, JF Mupande, Guy Loando and Simon Cong were involved in various ways in this case.

Tshisekedi thought he could replace Lukonde, Kayinda, N’samba, Athanase Mwamba and JF Mupande and the new ministers etc would take care of the problem.

Unfortunately for them AVZ’s lawyers and shareholders continued to expose the corruption which now includes the new Minister of Mines, Kibeya and the new head of CAMI.

The DRC have been desperately trying to get new investors to invest in their corrupt mining sector for months now, travelling around the world and trying to promote themselves at every forum and failing woefully.

With the US and EU investing billions in the Lobito Corridor, the spotlight is constantly being shone on the DRC’s corruption.

The DRC’s attempt at turning a blind eye to their own corruption has failed and they know Zijin won’t let them off the hook so now they are trying to swing a deal with western investors that would include Zijin getting paid compensation for the illegal work they have done.

There are rumours of a consortium of influential western investors wanting to take over the whole project and Tshisekedi wanting to get this done so that they don’t have to pay penalties to AVZ or Zijin
" Tshisekedi wanting to get this done so that they don’t have to pay penalties to AVZ or Zijin"
By this do you mean AVZ gets screwed over OR AVZ gets to sell $$$ and move on ?
 
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" Tshisekedi wanting to get this done so that they don’t have to pay penalties to AVZ or Zijin"
By this do you mean AVZ gets screwed over OR AVZ gets to sell $$$ and move on ?
We are once again going in circles regurgitating the same ole crap. Let's see what the BOD does.
 
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We are once again going in circles regurgitating the same ole crap. Let's see what the BOD does.
So before you have all the info ?? now you seem to be in the dark just like the rest of us go flick that to the BOD I trust NOBODY , so keep us on a fucken hook how many here are over 60 and can't wait for the egotistical bullshit to be over short this shit out now
 
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Pokok

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I don't wear black or yellow clothes there goes my filter
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What are the three tortures in The Pit and the Pendulum?


"The Pit and the Pendulum" by Edgar Allan Poe depicts the narrator's captors attempting to kill him in three ways: psychological torture in a dark pit, physical torture with a swinging pendulum, and the threat of being devoured by rats.

So DRC is the captive.

Psychological : Tick tock
Pendulum : Approaching Court cases
Rats : Chinese

Indulge me, it's Friday.
 
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PhatCatz

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My take on it this

The DRC (Cominiere) violated our FROR, illegally sold 15% of Dathcom to Zijin and then illegally seized our project (Easily proved in ICC and ICSID).

Even though Zijin was part of this collusion they know it was Cominiere who broke the law. It was actually Zijin who released the tape of Kibeya taking the bribe and then made threats to Cominiere if Cominiere broke their agreement.

Since then Cominiere has used Zijin’s lawyers to fight their case because they are broke.

Sama Lukonde, Adele Kayinda, Antoinette N’samba, Athanase Mwamba, JF Mupande, Guy Loando and Simon Cong were involved in various ways in this case.

Tshisekedi thought he could replace Lukonde, Kayinda, N’samba, Athanase Mwamba and JF Mupande and the new ministers etc would take care of the problem.

Unfortunately for them AVZ’s lawyers and shareholders continued to expose the corruption which now includes the new Minister of Mines, Kibeya and the new head of CAMI.

The DRC have been desperately trying to get new investors to invest in their corrupt mining sector for months now, travelling around the world and trying to promote themselves at every forum and failing woefully.

With the US and EU investing billions in the Lobito Corridor, the spotlight is constantly being shone on the DRC’s corruption.

The DRC’s attempt at turning a blind eye to their own corruption has failed and they know Zijin won’t let them off the hook so now they are trying to swing a deal with western investors that would include Zijin getting paid compensation for the illegal work they have done.

There are rumours of a consortium of influential western investors wanting to take over the whole project and Tshisekedi wanting to get this done so that they don’t have to pay penalties to AVZ or Zijin
If the price is right...

I think the end game is that everyone walks away a winner and a loser. with exception to the consortium.

AVZ and shareholders: We get paid out (wouldn't blink for anything less than $2.30) but have had to endure this bs for two years+ and get a fraction of total worth (easily $12+).
DRC: Unfortunately probably walk away the biggest winners as all of this gets swept under the carpet but upset their Chinese overlords. Think they will find other opportunities for their masters...
Chinese: Save face as much as they can but walk away like rabid dogs with tails between their legs. they'd be thinking that at least they get to live another day.
Consortium: Happy days as they walk away with the steal of the century. Middle East enters the critical mineral game and I'd suspect they will want to position themselves as the balancing/price setters of the critical mineral sector. Could work as they'd just play off East Vs West dynamics - plenty of arbitrage opportunities.
 
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My take on it this

The DRC (Cominiere) violated our FROR, illegally sold 15% of Dathcom to Zijin and then illegally seized our project (Easily proved in ICC and ICSID).

Even though Zijin was part of this collusion they know it was Cominiere who broke the law. It was actually Zijin who released the tape of Kibeya taking the bribe and then made threats to Cominiere if Cominiere broke their agreement.

Since then Cominiere has used Zijin’s lawyers to fight their case because they are broke.

Sama Lukonde, Adele Kayinda, Antoinette N’samba, Athanase Mwamba, JF Mupande, Guy Loando and Simon Cong were involved in various ways in this case.

Tshisekedi thought he could replace Lukonde, Kayinda, N’samba, Athanase Mwamba and JF Mupande and the new ministers etc would take care of the problem.

Unfortunately for them AVZ’s lawyers and shareholders continued to expose the corruption which now includes the new Minister of Mines, Kibeya and the new head of CAMI.

The DRC have been desperately trying to get new investors to invest in their corrupt mining sector for months now, travelling around the world and trying to promote themselves at every forum and failing woefully.

With the US and EU investing billions in the Lobito Corridor, the spotlight is constantly being shone on the DRC’s corruption.

The DRC’s attempt at turning a blind eye to their own corruption has failed and they know Zijin won’t let them off the hook so now they are trying to swing a deal with western investors that would include Zijin getting paid compensation for the illegal work they have done.

There are rumours of a consortium of influential western investors wanting to take over the whole project and Tshisekedi wanting to get this done so that they don’t have to pay penalties to AVZ or Zijin
 

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Does anyone have a subscription to this?

More Fat Tail shenanigans?

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wombat74

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LoL . This reads like a bunch of Bull Sh1t .

“The AFP can confirm a search warrant is being executed at a West Perth business premises this week, 6 December, 2024, as part of an ongoing investigation,” a spokeswoman for the Federal Police said. “There is no current or impending threat to the community." LOL
 
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LoL . This reads like a bunch of Bull Sh1t .

“The AFP can confirm a search warrant is being executed at a West Perth business premises this week, 6 December, 2024, as part of an ongoing investigation,” a spokeswoman for the Federal Police said. “There is no current or impending threat to the community." LOL
Friday night funnies..
Add this to our fuckery list!
 
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LoL . This reads like a bunch of Bull Sh1t .

“The AFP can confirm a search warrant is being executed at a West Perth business premises this week, 6 December, 2024, as part of an ongoing investigation,” a spokeswoman for the Federal Police said. “There is no current or impending threat to the community." LOL
Yeah, maybe somebody made a phone call.
From Beijing.
 
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LoL . This reads like a bunch of Bull Sh1t .

“The AFP can confirm a search warrant is being executed at a West Perth business premises this week, 6 December, 2024, as part of an ongoing investigation,” a spokeswoman for the Federal Police said. “There is no current or impending threat to the community." LOL
GPT generated answer:
The Australian Federal Police (AFP) can investigate crimes related to the Australian Securities Exchange (ASX), but their involvement typically focuses on serious criminal offenses such as corporate fraud, insider trading, market manipulation, and other financial crimes that may have a national or international dimension.

However, not all offenses related to the ASX fall under the AFP's jurisdiction. For example, routine breaches of securities laws or corporate governance issues are primarily handled by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC). ASIC is the key regulatory body responsible for enforcing financial regulations and investigating misconduct in the securities and financial markets.

In some cases, the AFP and ASIC may work together, especially in complex investigations involving criminal activity like large-scale fraud or organized market manipulation.
 
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GPT generated answer:
The Australian Federal Police (AFP) can investigate crimes related to the Australian Securities Exchange (ASX), but their involvement typically focuses on serious criminal offenses such as corporate fraud, insider trading, market manipulation, and other financial crimes that may have a national or international dimension.

However, not all offenses related to the ASX fall under the AFP's jurisdiction. For example, routine breaches of securities laws or corporate governance issues are primarily handled by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC). ASIC is the key regulatory body responsible for enforcing financial regulations and investigating misconduct in the securities and financial markets.

In some cases, the AFP and ASIC may work together, especially in complex investigations involving criminal activity like large-scale fraud or organized market manipulation.

Awesome, now even Australian authorities are against us!
 
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oxxa23

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Would kinda be disappointed with anything less a week after Locke funding news
 
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We found you Leonard!
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Hudnut

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Awesome, now even Australian authorities are against us!

They've certainly never given us any assistance.
 
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