AVZ Discussion 2022

My personal view Carlos is that there was collusion, deception and manipulation by Cominiere and CAMI in the whole process of the separation of the north and south of the tenement and I believe that is an issue that DLA Piper is aware of

But I think the legal matter in question is the fact that Cominiere violated AVZ’s FROR > AVZ said we have the FROR > Cominere lied and said AVZ didn’t make an offer (you have previously showed the evidence that we did make an offer) > Cominiere went ahead and illegally sold 15% of Dathcom to Jin Cheng (for $120million less than its value)

> AVZ said that’s illegal and Jin Cheng is not a shareholder > So Cominiere said AVZ is not cooperating with the JV partners so we are terminating the JV > Cominiere seizes the project, then tells CAMI that all PR13359 is now up for grabs

> CAMI says okay, our corrupt plan is in motion, time to form that JV with Zijin and take CDL, Camp Colline and the Mpiana Mwanga power plant

Of course everything thing they colluded to do is illegal and gradually the ICC arbitration cases we are winning is adding weight to the ICSID case.

As I said before to BEISHA, I personally think the matter is best dealt with by DLA Piper in arbitration. I’ve just tried to simplify what I feel has happened, but I always appreciate your support and your more youthful and well researched commentary Carlos.

AVZ has always said they were willing to drop the arbitration and negotiate a fair settlement, but it’s the corrupt DRC officials who took bribes from Zijin that don’t want a fair settlement, so in the words of AVZ 👇

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Yeah defo this is all orchestrated by Mupande / Cominiere / Zijin due to snacks

Slightly different timeline of events regarding the FROR tho

21/7/21 - Cominiere write to AVZ asking for an ‘opinion’ on their intent to sell the 15% to Zijin

4/8/21 - AVZ reply to Cominiere saying yo dipshits we have FROR what is the price we want to buy (This is within the 40 day time limit outlined in Article 9.1 (b) of the Dathcom JVA)

Crucially Cominiere never reply because they are too busy snacking

30/8/21 - 40 day time limit expires

The purported acquisition of the 15% by Zijin is then approved and registered in the RCCM (I don’t know the exact date this occurred but it was sometime in September 2021 according to Zijin)

20/9/21 – AVZ submits offer to purchase the 15% from Cominiere to the MoP at the market valuation of $154m USD established in the DFS which is to be done in a split of cash and AVZ shares (The date of 2071 shown is obvs a translation issue the original doc shows 2021)

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Don’t forget this old chestnut too which is the basis for everything that has happened regarding 15775 imo although all events post the Dathcom JVA purported termination is irrelevant legally as it should have gone through the ICC which is what AVZ are talking about in the screenshot you posted but I have said that many times. If the Dathcom relinquishment is valid the northern section should have gone through the tender process outlined in the mining code which never occurred even with Cominiere's relinquishment for Manono Lithium.

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That literally says the DRC will get 10% and doesn't mention at all that they 'may lose some or all of their remaining ownership of the asset' lol
 

BEISHA

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Yeah defo this is all orchestrated by Mupande / Cominiere / Zijin due to snacks

Slightly different timeline of events regarding the FROR tho

21/7/21 - Cominiere write to AVZ asking for an ‘opinion’ on their intent to sell the 15% to Zijin

4/8/21 - AVZ reply to Cominiere saying yo dipshits we have FROR what is the price we want to buy (This is within the 40 day time limit outlined in Article 9.1 (b) of the Dathcom JVA)

Crucially Cominiere never reply because they are too busy snacking

30/8/21 - 40 day time limit expires

The purported acquisition of the 15% by Zijin is then approved and registered in the RCCM (I don’t know the exact date this occurred but it was sometime in September 2021 according to Zijin)

20/9/21 – AVZ submits offer to purchase the 15% from Cominiere to the MoP at the market valuation of $154m USD established in the DFS which is to be done in a split of cash and AVZ shares (The date of 2071 shown is obvs a translation issue the original doc shows 2021)

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Don’t forget this old chestnut too which is the basis for everything that has happened regarding 15775 imo although all events post the Dathcom JVA purported termination is irrelevant legally as it they should have gone through the ICC which is what AVZ are talking about in the screenshot you posted but I have said that many times. If the Dathcom relinquishment is valid the northern section should have gone through the tender process outlined in the mining code which never occurred even with Cominiere's relinquishment for Manono Lithium.

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In the mean time we have exciting developments happening behind the scenes and a "promised" jump for joy announcement on the way according to both deboss and geo . Nice timing with the AGM approaching .

Speaking of AGMs . Is there a cut off date ?
 
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In the mean time we have exciting developments happening behind the scenes and a "promised" jump for joy announcement on the way according to both deboss and geo . Nice timing with the AGM approaching .

Speaking of AGMs . Is there a cut off date ?
Cut off date is end of November for holding it and 3 weeks before date of AGM for informing shareholders

Since the 30th is a Saturday then the 29th is the last plausible date to hold it and the 8th of November would be the last date for informing shareholders

However, the annual report must be released today. Good chance we will get the AGM notification straight after that. We must be informed of what the remuneration paid to management is before we can vote on it.
 
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Surely you can wait few weeks for your answer, then you will hopefully be jumping with joy.
A few weeks from now is Halloween. I’ve screenshotted this and will be checking back in. Let’s hope it is a time of treats and not tricks.
Happy Halloween everyone!
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Yeah defo this is all orchestrated by Mupande / Cominiere / Zijin due to snacks

Slightly different timeline of events regarding the FROR tho

21/7/21 - Cominiere write to AVZ asking for an ‘opinion’ on their intent to sell the 15% to Zijin

4/8/21 - AVZ reply to Cominiere saying yo dipshits we have FROR what is the price we want to buy (This is within the 40 day time limit outlined in Article 9.1 (b) of the Dathcom JVA)

Crucially Cominiere never reply because they are too busy snacking

30/8/21 - 40 day time limit expires

The purported acquisition of the 15% by Zijin is then approved and registered in the RCCM (I don’t know the exact date this occurred but it was sometime in September 2021 according to Zijin)

20/9/21 – AVZ submits offer to purchase the 15% from Cominiere to the MoP at the market valuation of $154m USD established in the DFS which is to be done in a split of cash and AVZ shares (The date of 2071 shown is obvs a translation issue the original doc shows 2021)

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Don’t forget this old chestnut too which is the basis for everything that has happened regarding 15775 imo although all events post the Dathcom JVA purported termination is irrelevant legally as it should have gone through the ICC which is what AVZ are talking about in the screenshot you posted but I have said that many times. If the Dathcom relinquishment is valid the northern section should have gone through the tender process outlined in the mining code which never occurred even with Cominiere's relinquishment for Manono Lithium.

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So, in just this small part of the wider sordid affair, we have:

Cominiere failing to honor AVZ's pre-emtive right.
Cominiere failing to honour AVZ's right to match any third party offer.
Cominiere not responding to AVZ's offer.
Cominiere corruptly selling 15% of Dathcom to Zijin Mining below market value.
Cominiere corruptly siphoning off approx $US6m from the sale.
Cominiere not refering the resulting dispute for arbitration.

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The ads on TSE mobile are so egregious.

I feel like I’m getting Deboss’s X feed every time I refresh the page.
 
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The ads on TSE mobile are so egregious.

I feel like I’m getting Deboss’s X feed every time I refresh the page.
I think you'll find they're based on your search history. So, self inflicted IMO🤣
 
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Mute22

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I think you'll find they're based on your search history. So, self inflicted IMO🤣
The full page ones on mobile of instagram models pop up across all devices even ones I have no history on!

Feel like a perv opening TSE at work.
 
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The full page ones on mobile of instagram models pop up across all devices even ones I have no history on!

Feel like a perv opening TSE at work.
Maybe worth mentioning it to @Zeebot. I was getting full page ads in Chinese for a while there but no Instagram models unfortunately.
 
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Maybe worth mentioning it to @Zeebot. I was getting full page ads in Chinese for a while there but no Instagram models unfortunately.
So I was getting Chinese instagram models …. Where have I gone wrong ???
 
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Azzler

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How you people live with out using an ad blocker is beyond me!!!
It's so obnoxious.

Do yourself a massive favor, please!
 
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Mute22

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How you people live with out using an ad blocker is beyond me!!!
It's so obnoxious.

Do yourself a massive favor, please!
I do for desktop, but don’t have one on mobile :)
 
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Someone able to fill us in on this Kobold Metals stuff doing the rounds on X? They tried to get onsite with cominiere? To what end?
More twists and turns then a cheap garden hose
 
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Someone able to fill us in on this Kobold Metals stuff doing the rounds on X? They tried to get onsite with cominiere? To what end?
More twists and turns then a cheap garden hose
True answer... nobody knows at this point.
A lot of speculation, but I'm willing to wager that it's another breach of ICC orders by Cominiere
 
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wombat74

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Someone able to fill us in on this Kobold Metals stuff doing the rounds on X? They tried to get onsite with cominiere? To what end?
More twists and turns then a cheap garden hose
They going to buy out AVZ ? geo_au
 
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They going to buy out AVZ ? geo_au
No chance. They're exploration only, not a mining company.
 
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