AVZ Discussion 2022

[Hodlandwin69]

US $15 mill = AU $20 mill

Sure ok, but the original plan was for US $20 mil brah.
You could see it as a good sign that AVZ might only need up to $15 mil, but why not have it up to $20 mil and only draw what's needed anyway.

I'm all for having the funds to keep us alive for another 2 years, but just stating the facts

 

[JNRB]

Sure ok, but the original plan was for US $20 mil brah.
You could see it as a good sign that AVZ might only need up to $15 mil, but why not have it up to $20 mil and only draw what's needed anyway.

I'm all for having the funds to keep us alive for another 2 years, but just stating the facts

Because if "oh just made it $20 mil" then Lock would "oh just want some more sweeteners".
This isn't a bank loan....

 

[JNRB]

Ok so 2 ways to deal with this announcement: left-brain right-brain.

Left brain
lets do the accounting and come up with some equation to determine if it's a good deal based on purely hypothetical assumptions on how this will play out and what the result will be.

Fk that, will deal with the numbers later. For now...

...Right brain:

SUCK IT ZIJIN YOU DESPICABLE #@%HOLES!!
YOU DOGS AREN'T TOUCHING THIS
WE'LL MORTAGE OR OPTION OUT AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T GET A SINGLE SQUARE!

 

[j.l]

Sure ok, but the original plan was for US $20 mil brah.
You could see it as a good sign that AVZ might only need up to $15 mil, but why not have it up to $20 mil and only draw what's needed anyway.

I'm all for having the funds to keep us alive for another 2 years, but just stating the facts

I believe the Locke funding only covers legal costs. Corporate costs are excluded, which is possibly why there's a shortfall against the originally targeted sum.

AVZ still has to find a way to fund corporate costs, hence the recent convertible note raising (and presumably it was needed to be able to demonstrate to Locke that AVZ was still a going concern).

December 2026 is not that far away, especially in light of the timelines of other ICSID proceedings that we've heard about recently.

Hopefully management learn a lesson from all these last minute funding adventures and is already planning the strategy for the next round of funding come the end of the Locke deal. Or some of that temporary relief is paid out.

The stakes remain very high. One can only hope...

 

[Bray]

Genuine question and may have missed the answer - with Locke’s funding, what would happen if AVZ failed with the court cases and Locke has paid for it all and AVZ is out of cash to pay em back

 

[Schnitzelfresser]

Even if it is not the buy-out that some had hoped for, the financing from Locke clearly shows how strong our legal position is. Locke will also have consulted external specified lawyers and meticulously analyzed the legal situation. They seem to have come to the conclusion that AVZ's legal proceedings are watertight.
The corrupt bunch can pack their bags.

 

[Doc]

No

Genuine question and may have missed the answer - with Locke’s funding, what would happen if AVZ failed with the court cases and Locke has paid for it all and AVZ is out of cash to pay em back

Locke would have done due diligence and know the risk. They taken a calculated risk, the fact that they lending us 15m USD is in itself a positive sign that we on the right track imo

Edit: what he said

 

[JohnJoyce]

Well I guess GEO had the inside scoop on this one.
Hopefully further news to come.

Look forward to hearing any kind of feedback from this afternoon.

 

[Roon]

Locke and its funding may be a necessary evil which was clearly becoming of increasing importance and urgency. The terms highlight that. But now having read the announcement again, it seems we have replaced one existential risk to AVZ's existence with another - also with a fairly short off-ramp time-line. Risky business in the big leagues! Hope NF and Co know what they are doing - will look forward to hearing the explanations delivered at the AGM, and gain some awareness of plans in the back pocket should this situation drag beyond the next 2 years and repayment looms. While there will likely be ways to avoid the worst possible outcomes, if it comes to that, like a wider shareholder raising, it's still a legitimate concern.

Would be nice to know how much will actually need to be paid back (depending on how much we use, but a minimum of 10m) and whether the ATM facility shares transferred from Acuity would actually cover any part of that repayment, or whether that was just a freebie sweetener for the deal. I suspect the latter, but some clarity on that would be good because if that took a chunk off the repayment it might be more manageable.

Otherwise though am happy to see funding. It'll be very interesting now to see if the DRC's attitudes towards meeting us and trying to work through to a resolution change now that they understand we can't be financially starved into submission, at least in the short to medium-term. Or as easily starved anyway, we'll still need to find operating costs. I expect that their attitudes might well change!

Let's get negotiations back on track!

Also, any guesses as to what fair SP value might look like in Sep 2024? Certainly not the .01 that fat boy was offering, but then again it would be nowhere near the last traded price. Perhaps 15c? So if we do get a way out of this mess we'll see Locke acquiring about 300 million more cheap shares. Unfortunate but necessary, namely the price of doing business without much leverage.

 

[JasonM]

Locke and its funding may be a necessary evil which was clearly becoming of increasing importance and urgency. The terms highlight that. But now having read the announcement again, it seems we have replaced one existential risk to AVZ's existence with another - also with a fairly short off-ramp time-line. Risky business in the big leagues! Hope NF and Co know what they are doing - will look forward to hearing the explanations delivered at the AGM, and gain some awareness of plans in the back pocket should this situation drag beyond the next 2 years and repayment looms. While there will likely be ways to avoid the worst possible outcomes, if it comes to that, like a wider shareholder raising, it's still a legitimate concern.

Otherwise though am happy to see funding. It'll be very interesting now to see if the DRC's attitudes towards meeting us and trying to work through to a resolution change now that they understand we can't be financially starved into submission, at least in the short to medium-term. I expect that it might.

Let's get negotiations back on track!

Also, any guesses as to what fair SP value might look like in Sep 2024? Certainly not the .01 that fat boy was offering, but then again it would be nowhere near the last traded price. Perhaps 15c? So if we do get a way out of this mess we'll see Locke acquiring about 300 million more cheap shares. Unfortunate but necessary, namely the price of doing business without much leverage.

no doubt you're a glass half empty type of person. yep big price to pay but locke stumping up and risking their cash, if they win, we win.

 

[Roon]

no doubt you're a glass half empty type of person. yep big price to pay but locke stumping up and risking their cash, if they win, we win.

Yes, though I would call it a realists view. And the second part of your statement isn't strictly true. There is a way they can win without us winning - that's what I was worried about.

But as I said, it's a necessary evil. They are also taking a big risk, and we need the funds. It's drastically improved our near-term chances of success in this endeavor, IMO.

I'm more pleased than concerned for the time being. And with our ICSID case to progress this coming year to a hearing, the pressure will really be on. I think there is a reasonable likelihood that due to this pressure it may not need to get as far as an ICSID award, and that the DRC can be brought to some kind of acceptable terms.

 

[Cumquat Cap]

Locke and DLAP fully aligned with our interests and will fight like hell to get to final ICSID court case. I’m told the DRC only strategy has been to bankrupt us and their legal standing/Arguaments are embarrassing.

Mounting pressure month by month before court case begins in June, DRC desperate for this never to happen. Good result

 

[PhatCatz]

big win in terms of getting funding for next two years but worried about this Dec 2026 payback date. This has a high chance to take longer than 2 years. But at least it gives the company some additional time to sort themselves into a more favourable position instead of leaving thing to the last minute. Yes I understand Locke funding has been working on for a while but it still felt all too rushed considering the stakes at risk.

But also I do understand the run arounds and BS that the corrupt actors have done to the BOD. I guess tuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

[Lopu]

I am as happy as can be under the circumstances. We can keep on going to fight for our rights.

But I do not agree with some others that the funding means we have a water tight case and that this is the reason Locke agreed to the funding. Locke can not loose. If AVZ wins they get a nice payback. If AVZ loses then Locke has AVZ and all susidiaries and assets as securities. They could sell the AVZ stake in Dathcom to Zijn. How much would they pay to have AVZ out and own the south too? Locke can only ein either way. But maybe I misunderstood

 

[Hodlandwin69]

Just remember, deboss said "In my view, the Company is on the cusp of some significant wins and breakthroughs."
Locke is only the first significant win and breakthrough..... So let's see what happens....

 

[Flight996]

I too am very happy that a fighting fund deal finally got inked.

The summary of terms implies a very, very good deal for Locke, including:

• First mortgage terms (potentially billions in assets as security for $15m loan),
• Sixty million shares in AVZ plus very generous equity and top-up options across a range of scenarios.

However, AVZ was cornered and fighting for its life, and generous terms were the price it had to agree in order to get funding across the line.

I am very happy for the oxygen that this package brings management in its fight against the corrupt DRC maggots and their shit-eating Chinese masters.

Cheers
F

 

[Cumquat Cap]

US 15 or Aud 23 at 60 million shares is 0.35 per share and rising once the court cases ramp up.

Also Locke will not be negotiating on our behalf, simply funding and providing some USA related backup support

 

[Pokok]

"As always i will act in the best interest of this forum".


Mmmmm.....????

My suggestion is you and Yianni absolutely kick the living fucking suitcase out of Carrotdick just prior to question time

Then......

Get all the intel and decent answers to genuine shareholders questions from the Nige et al

Following that dump Carrotdick's limp arse in the most compromising area of the Perth CBD with his pants around his ankles and a sign around his neck saying "Open for Business".......

It's not outside his character so I'm guessing there won't be any legal ramifications

After that judiciously share the important intel with the trusted TSE members via PM's and the golden grapevine (no Hoots you're not a member or you Tolate so suck it up boyfriends)

Beyond that I have no immediate plans or ideas.....

And I was thinking I need professional help

 

[Xerof]

I suspect @geo_au tipped the Locke signing when he said ‘wait a couple of weeks and we’ll be jumping for joy’ Timing was out coz BOD wanted to wait until AGM to announce, IMO

So, next stop is the result of the ‘Auction’……IMO

Waiting…..

 

[wombat74]

Well done BoD . Well done @geo_au and deboss . Cheers