AVZ Discussion 2022

[Flekman11]

I’m in the same boat as you lot. Just use your brains and take out emotion and you’ll find the answers. Nothing’s happening overnight but it’s all rather likely what is most probable as an outcome…for shareholders.

It’s going to be sold and the biggest players in the mining game are the bidders and geopolitics play into it. Regardless of the rubbish jurisdiction this resource finds itself in, the power it has is all conquering. Hold tight holders.

 

[BRICK]

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[BRICK]

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Less sovereign risk

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[cruiser51]

Maître Alain BACOKE
@AlainBacoke

#Urgent: Possible formation du gouvernement au complet après consultation entre l’informateur
@AugustinKabuyaT
et les regroupements politiques , selon les services rendus à la nation et tenant compte des compétences, les noms ci-dessous sont cités par l'opinion comme ayant plus de 60% de chance pour la formation du gouvernement: Premier Ministre : Monsieur
@ALINGETEJULES_K
Alingeti Vice Premier Ministre en charge de l’Intérieur : Monsieur Augustin Kabuya Vice Premier Ministre en charge de La Défense National : Monsieur Jean - Pierre Bemba Gombo
@bembajp
Vice-Premier Ministre en charge du Budget : Monsieur Abdon Etina Bekile Ipan Vice -Premier Ministre en charge de l’Economie Nationale : Madame
@acaciaBandubol1
Bandubola Mbongo Vice - Premier Ministre en charge des Affaires Étrangères : Monsieur Mbosso
@CMbosoNkodia
Mpwanga Ministres d’Etat Fonction Publique : Monsieur Jean Pierre
@LihauEbua
Environnement : Monsieur
@Paul
mundela Justice et Garde des Sceaux : Monsieur
@Jacquemin

@shabani_lukoo
Infrastructures et Travaux Publiques : Monsieur
@GuyLoando_
Loando Mboyo Portefeuille : Madame
@Godelive

@Londji
Plan : Monsieur
@julienpalukucom
Paluku Ministres Finance : Monsieur Daniel
@DMukokoSamba
Samba Santé : Monsieur Guy Bandu Ndungidi
@g_banduofficiel
Agriculture : Monsieur Blanchard
@BlanchardMongo2
EPST : Monsieur Thierry
@ThierryMonse
Emploi et Prévoyance Sociale : Monsieur Laurent
@BatumonaLaurent
Transport et voix des communications : Monsieur Amisi Makutano
@MakutanoForum
Pêche et Élevage : Madame Fifi Masuka Saini
@FifiMasukaSaini
Industrie : Monsieur Aimé
@BojiAime
Sangara Entrepreunariat : Madame
@PepithoKilala07
Kilala Karhamon ESU : Monsieur
@WillyMakiashi
Recherche Scientifique : Professeur
@jngalingi
Ngoyi Ngalingi Joseph -Antoine Mines : Monsieur
@kazadi_peter
Kazadi Hydrocarbures : Monsieur
@TonykankuShiku7
Shiku PTNTIC : Monsieur
@AugustinKibassa
Développement Rural : Monsieur Mudekereza Namegabe Olive Numérique : Monsieur Eberande
@kolongele
Affaires foncières :
@molendosakombi
Sakombi Intégration Régionale : Monsieur
@AntipasMbusaN
Nyamwisi Commerce Extérieur : Monsieur @PaulTshulumbu Genre : Madame
@WivineMoleka
Droits Humains : Monsieur
@Alfred

@DibandiAlfred
Nzondomio Habitat : Monsieur Kalele Malobo Camy-Richard Tourisme : Monsieur Didier Manzenga Communication et Media : Monsieur Lambert
@lambert_mende
Affaires Sociales : Madame Christelle
@ChristelleVuan1
Formation Professionnelle : Madame Wamu Atamina
@WamuHenriette
Jeunesse et Initiation à la Nouvelle Citoyenneté : Monsieur Muyaya Katembwe
@PatrickMuyaya
Sport et Loisirs : Monsieur Dénis
@CimbumbuDenis
Tshimbumbu Culture et Arts : Monsieur Faustin
@kaziteriko
Relation avec le Parlement : Monsieur Jean Lucien
@JeanlucienB
Bussa Tongba Ministre près le Présidentde la République : Monsieur
@GuylainyemboM
Ministre des personnes vivant avec handicapes : Madame Irène Esambo Ministre Délégué PVH : Monsieur
@37408c798d5f445
Yemo Mobutu Vices-Ministres Intérieur : Monsieur
@EliezerNtambwe0
Ntambwe Affaires Étrangères : Monsieur
@YannickLukusa
Justice : Madame
@madiya_dorothee
Madiya Plan : Monsieur
@ConstantMutamba
Mutamba Budget : Monsieur
@didier_kamerhe
Kamerhe Défense Nationale : Monsieur
@DidierBudimbu
Fait à Kinshasa, le 21 février 2024. ( vu, Lu dans les fora WhatsApp et transmis sur X) Vos réactions en commentaires sur les compétences des noms précités.


Translated from French by
#Urgent : Possible formation of the entire government after consultation between the informant
@AugustinKabuyaT
and the political groups, according to the services rendered to the nation and taking into account the skills, the names below are cited by public opinion as having more than 60% chance for government formation: Prime Minister: Mr.
@ALINGETEJULES_K
Alingeti Deputy Prime Minister in charge of the Interior: Mr. Augustin Kabuya Deputy Prime Minister in charge of National Defense: Mr. Jean - Pierre Bemba Gombo
@bembajp
Deputy Prime Minister in charge of the Budget: Mr. Abdon Etina Bekile Ipan Deputy Prime Minister in charge of the National Economy: Madam
@acaciaBandubol1
Bandubola Mbongo Deputy Prime Minister in charge of Foreign Affairs: Mr. Mbosso
@CMbosoNkodia
Mpwanga Ministers of State Civil Service: Mr. Jean Pierre
@LihauEbua
Environment: Mister
@Paul
mundela Justice and Keeper of the Seals: Monsieur
@Jacquemin

@shabani_lukoo
Infrastructure and Public Works: Mr.
@GuyLoando_
Loando Mboyo Wallet: Madame
@Godelive

@Londji
Plan: Mister
@julienpalukucom
Paluku Ministers Finance: Mr. Daniel
@DMukokoSamba
Samba Health: Mr. Guy Bandu Ndungidi
@g_banduofficiel
Agriculture: Mr. Blanchard
@BlanchardMongo2
EPST: Mr. Thierry
@ThierryMonse
Employment and Social Security: Mr. Laurent
@BatumonaLaurent
Transport and voice of communications: Mr. Amisi Makutano
@MakutanoForum
Fishing and Livestock: Mrs. Fifi Masuka Saini
@FifiMasukaSaini
Industry: Mr. Aimé
@BojiAime
Sangara Entrepreneurship: Madam
@PepithoKilala07
Kilala Karhamon ESU: Sir
@WillyMakiashi
Scientific Research: Professor
@jngalingi
Ngoyi Ngalingi Joseph -Antoine Mines: Mister
@kazadi_peter
Kazadi Hydrocarbons: Mr.
@TonykankuShiku7
Shiku PTNTIC: Sir
@AugustinKibassa
Rural Development: Mr. Mudekereza Namegabe Olive Digital: Mr. Eberande
@kolongele
Land affairs:
@molendosakombi
Sakombi Regional Integration: Mr.
@AntipasMbusaN
Nyamwisi Foreign Trade: Mr @PaulTshulumbu Gender: Madam
@WivineMoleka
Human Rights: Mr.
@Alfred

@DibandiAlfred
Nzondomio Habitat: Mr. Kalele Malobo Camy-Richard Tourism: Mr Didier Manzenga Communication and Media: Mr. Lambert
@lambert_mende
Social Affairs: Madame Christelle
@ChristelleVuan1
Professional Training: Mrs. Wamu Atamina
@WamuHenriette
Youth and Introduction to the New Citizenship: Mr. Muyaya Katembwe
@PatrickMuyaya
Sport and Leisure: Mr. Dénis
@CimbumbuDenis
Tshimbumbu Culture and Arts: Monsieur Faustin
@kaziteriko
Relationship with Parliament: Mr. Jean Lucien
@JeanlucienB
Bussa Tongba Minister to the President of the Republic: Sir
@GuylainyemboM
Minister for people living with disabilities: Madam Irène Esambo Minister Delegate PVH: Mr.
@37408c798d5f445
Yemo Mobutu Deputy Ministers Interior: Mr.
@EliezerNtambwe0
Ntambwe Foreign Affairs: Sir
@YannickLukusa
Justice: Madam
@madiya_dorothee
Madiya Plan: Monsieur
@ConstantMutamba
Mutamba Budget: Mr.
@didier_kamerhe
Kamerhe National Defense: Sir
@DidierBudimbu
Done in Kinshasa, February 21, 2024. (seen, read in WhatsApp forums and transmitted on X) Your reactions in comments on the skills of the aforementioned names.






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[cruiser51]

DEMOCRATIC RESIDENCE OF THE REPUBLIC
OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC
The Chief of Staff
Kinshasa, 26 FEV
N/Ref.:
OFFICIAL RELEASE
Following the official press release of February 7, 2024 announcing the designation of Mr. Augustin KABUYA TSHILUMBA for a fact-finding mission, His Excellency Mr. Félix-Antoine TSHISEKEDI TSHILOMBO, President of the Republic, Head of State, received this Monday, February 26, 2024 , the conclusions of the report presented to him by the Informant.
After examination, the President of the Republic renewed the mission of the Informant in order to complete his report with certain structuring elements which will facilitate the conclusion of a Government agreement between the members of the majority coalition, relating to the composition of the Government and on the programmatic objectives they set for themselves.
The final conclusions are awaited by the President of the Republic.
Done in Kinshasa, February 26, 2024
Guylain THE DOGS SONG
+243 82 104 64 51

 

[cruiser51]

Maître Alain BACOKE reposted








Normel Kabeya.

@normel_kabeya

Après avoir achevé avec succès sa mission d'identifier la majorité parlementaire,l'Hon
@AugustinKabuyaT
se voit confier, par le Pr
@fatshi13
,une seconde mission spéciale,celle de constituer "des éléments structurants qui faciliteront la composition du nouveau Gouvernement".
Translated from French by
After having successfully completed his mission of identifying the parliamentary majority, the Hon
@AugustinKabuyaT
is entrusted, by the Pr
@fatshi13
, with a second special mission, that of constituting "structuring elements which will facilitate the composition of the new Government ".

 

[Pokok]

Found one:

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I don't like the fact the green thing is eating everything

 

[Dazmac66]

DEMOCRATIC RESIDENCE OF THE REPUBLIC
OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC
The Chief of Staff
Kinshasa, 26 FEV
N/Ref.:
OFFICIAL RELEASE
Following the official press release of February 7, 2024 announcing the designation of Mr. Augustin KABUYA TSHILUMBA for a fact-finding mission, His Excellency Mr. Félix-Antoine TSHISEKEDI TSHILOMBO, President of the Republic, Head of State, received this Monday, February 26, 2024 , the conclusions of the report presented to him by the Informant.
After examination, the President of the Republic renewed the mission of the Informant in order to complete his report with certain structuring elements which will facilitate the conclusion of a Government agreement between the members of the majority coalition, relating to the composition of the Government and on the programmatic objectives they set for themselves.
The final conclusions are awaited by the President of the Republic.
Done in Kinshasa, February 26, 2024
Guylain THE DOGS SONG
+243 82 104 64 51

Thanks for posting Cruiser but I have no idea what this means but that is not unusual!!

 

[Xerof]

It means Augustin has been around talking to the 3.5 million different parties that might be able to form a coalition, shown Felix his list, and now he has sent Augustin off on the rounds again to see what jobs for the boys are required to agree to sign a coalition agreement, and what policies they want to have in place for the next 5 years. Lame duck President will once again just have to suck it up, as the (larger) minorities have him by the goolies. IMO

 

[Cumquat Cap]

Peter Kazadi - mines

Someone other then Adele - portfolio

Jules from IGF - prime minister

 

[Xerof]

And the list put out by Alain Bacoke, appears to be based on a popularity contest, gathered from comments made on X and WhatsApp

I mean, how the fuck can Jules be PM, when he didn't stand in the elections? perhaps likes from AVZ shareholders count?

 

[Dazmac66]

RDC : 6 mois après son avènement, l’équipe dirigeante du CAMI présente les avancées majeures enregistrées - MINES.CD - Premier média congolais du secteur minier

Au cours d’un café de presse organisé lundi 26 février 2024, à la direction générale du Cadastre Minier (CAMI), la nouvelle équipe dirigeante de cette institution, nommé en août 2023, a présenté les avancées majeures enregistrées depuis son avènement. Les animateurs de la porte d’entrée du...

mines.cd

How can they not mention the biggest lithium deposit in the world! Or did they?

 

[Pokok]

RDC : 6 mois après son avènement, l’équipe dirigeante du CAMI présente les avancées majeures enregistrées - MINES.CD - Premier média congolais du secteur minier

Au cours d’un café de presse organisé lundi 26 février 2024, à la direction générale du Cadastre Minier (CAMI), la nouvelle équipe dirigeante de cette institution, nommé en août 2023, a présenté les avancées majeures enregistrées depuis son avènement. Les animateurs de la porte d’entrée du...

mines.cd

How can they not mention the biggest lithium deposit in the world! Or did they?

It was mentioned in a very subtle way ?? me thinks

 

[cruiser51]

RDC : 6 mois après son avènement, l’équipe dirigeante du CAMI présente les avancées majeures enregistrées - MINES.CD - Premier média congolais du secteur minier

Au cours d’un café de presse organisé lundi 26 février 2024, à la direction générale du Cadastre Minier (CAMI), la nouvelle équipe dirigeante de cette institution, nommé en août 2023, a présenté les avancées majeures enregistrées depuis son avènement. Les animateurs de la porte d’entrée du...

mines.cd

How can they not mention the biggest lithium deposit in the world! Or did they?

This is the translation

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DRC: 6 months after its advent, the CAMI management team presents the major progress recorded​

Last updated: 2024/02/27 at 11:00 AM
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During a press café organized on Monday February 26, 2024, at the general directorate of the Mining Cadastre (CAMI), the new management team of this institution, appointed in August 2023, presented the major advances recorded since its advent.
The facilitators of the entrance to the Congolese mining sector also reviewed the prospects for this new year, mainly the reopening of the window. At the same time, they opened a framework for discussion on the various concerns of stakeholders in the extractive sector.
“We are happy to open the Mining Cadastre to you so that you can see how the State services work and try to do a little more education because there must be a relationship between what we do and what are recipients, that is to say that people who are far away must know how we proceed and this is what was done by first asking questions and then looking at the package to see how we make a request of a mining title,” declared Popol Mabolia, director general of CAMI.
Returning to the concern relating to the sanitation of the mining sector, Popol Mabolia revealed the establishment of a board of directors but also the cleaning up of the cadastral file of mines faced with several irregularities "coming from his predecessors as well as certain holders of mining or quarry rights.
“First, there has never been a board of directors. It was necessary to install the board of directors. Subsequently, there were plenty of permits that were given. We looked at this situation of all these 3050 permits which were granted in all categories. And we saw that there were problems with some things, the law was not respected correctly, it was not done well. This had the effect of freezing mining areas that could have been drilled. And so, for this we carried out the cleaning up of the mining cadastre,” added the director general of CAMI.
Falling in his intervention, Popol Mabolia explained that “CAMI looked at the application of the law in the context of the mining cadastre”. He also announced that the cleaning of the cadastral file made it possible to recover more than 10,000 kilometers of mining squares.

olito MUKINZI​

 

[Cumquat Cap]

All they’ve done is install a board of directors who no doubt want to leverage their cumulative experience and stature into some nice retirement bribes. All chat over there

 

[cruiser51]

From HC, which is now readable after the arseholes been sent on a temp. break:

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  I agree with sf120,
  
  The Interim Orders (listed by ASX announcement on 18th January 2024) were binding on all parties and to take effect immediately.
  Yes, the DRC has signed up to International Law and while there is little evidence coming out of the DRC to confirm if they have taken these Orders seriously, the interim orders made by the ICSID are still in effect.
  However, I believe negotiations are ongoing in regards the Northern Section of the Manono Project and this may have caused a short deferment in proceedings.
  AVZ indicated that it would continue with its efforts to confirm its and Dathcom’s ownership of the northern area of the Manono Project either through its continued negotiations with the DRC government’s senior public officials or return and seek remedy through the ICSID and ICC proceedings to their conclusion.
  So what timeframe would the ICSID have given the parties to reach a negotiated settlement?
  IMO the Tribunal, having received submissions from both parties would have suggested that the parties return to the Tribunal no later than the first business day of March 2024.
  If by this time AVZ feels that the DRC is failing in its obligations to comply with any of the interim orders or that an agreement with the DRC cannot be reached in relation to the Northern section then AVZ can ask the Tribunal to proceed to a ruling.
  This would be the worst case scenario for the DRC, given the circumstances we know and the fact that the eyes of the world are waiting on a decision from the ICSID and the ICC.
  IMO AVZ lawyers will be pushing to get an outcome in the near future.
  The DRC's compliance with the ICSID decision will be looked upon favourably and would open the gates for AVZ to resume work to advance the development of Manono.
  I am looking forward to a series of favourable announcements and updates in the first week of March on the back of the Tribunal rulings and hope that these outcomes progress the investment interests of all AVZ shareholders.

  AVZ Price at posting: 78.0¢ Sentiment: Hold Disclosure: Held
  
  
  

https://hotcrapper.com.au/threads/litigation-timelines.7740657/members/winenut.397542/

 

[Frank]

*Fyi, I see where,

The CAMI recovers 10,000 km2 of frozen illegal concessions thanks to the cleaning up of the cadastral file

The mining cadastre (CAMI) has undertaken a clean-up of the cadastral file, and the results are impressive.

Since August 9, 2023, the new Mining Cadastre (CAMI) team, authorized to grant mining titles, has succeeded in recovering around 10,000 km² of illegal concessions.

These concessions, which did not comply with the rules in force, represented more than 1000 mining titles, or approximately a third of the total of 3050 titles of all categories listed to date by the mining cadastre.

During a press conference held at CAMI headquarters in Kinshasa, Popol Mabolia Yenga, the Director General (DG) of the organization, underlined the importance of this recovery.

It allows mining companies and investors to have more space for their activities.

More than 100 mining titles allocated to individuals will be canceled

In addition, a proposal to delist more than 100 mining titles belonging to natural persons, in violation of the law, was submitted to the Ministry of Mines.

The alarming observation after the analysis of the cadastral file also reveals that only around ten companies pay at least 50% in mining royalties.

In addition to this action, permanent dialogue with the union was relaunched, and the CAMI management team managed to improve the maximization of state revenues in just 6 months since taking office.

An important measure has been put in place: the granting of the certificate to companies is now conditional on payment of 100% of the quota, i.e. all of the royalties.

This directive is currently being implemented.

However, Mr. Mabolia also expressed his dissatisfaction with the low cost of filing fees for the right of acquisition, which is yet to be clarified.

Read: Justicia Asbl denounces J.C. Bukasa's coup against Moise Katumbi, a name that moves the power of Kinshasa

CAMI continues to work to ensure transparent and efficient management of mining titles in the DRC, thus contributing to the development of the country's mining sector.

Rules for granting mining titles in the DRC

As a reminder, in the DRC, the granting of mining titles is governed by specific procedures.

Here is an overview of the two main granting methods:

First, the exceptional procedure for submitting to the call for tenders:

This procedure applies to deposits considered “reserved and subject to call for tenders”.

To be subject to this procedure, the deposits must meet certain criteria: they must be known and have significant value; they must be inside clearly identified squares or bordering squares; these deposits must be studied, documented or possibly worked by the State or its agencies, and be considered as “an asset of known significant value”; they must not be located in a square subject to a mining right or a quarry right in the name of the State, nor in the name of a third party.

Procedure

The tender procedure is as follows:

The order of the Minister of Mines reserves the deposits to be submitted to the call for tenders.

The Prime Minister confirms this reservation.

Then, the call for tenders is published in the Official Journal and specifies the terms and conditions of the offers as well as the date and address of submission.

Note that access to the exploitation of a deposit obtained by call for tenders is conditional on the payment of a “doorstep” representing 1% of the in-place value of the deposit.

Indeed, if the deposit was studied, documented or worked by a commercial company belonging to the State, the doorstep goes 100% to this company.

Second, the classic procedure for granting mining titles:

This procedure is subject to particular formalism and must comply with certain instructions.

It can be initiated by requesting the granting of mining titles.

Here, the steps include submitting the file to the Mining Cadastre (CAMI), paying filing fees, cadastral, technical and environmental instructions, etc.

Finally, let us point out that the DRC continues to work to ensure transparent and efficient management of mining titles, thus contributing to the development of the country's mining sector.

mediacongo

 

[Frank]

The Sino-Congolese Contract: the unspoken words of the IGF Jules ALINGETE which obscure the result obtained”

The Congolese people as well as international opinion followed the report on the revision of the SINO-CONGOLESE contract, which led to a renegotiation of certain clauses of this convention and the addition of other articles included in the signed amendment between the two parties.

It is therefore in an appearance of victory won after a bitter battle that the Congolese side, in particular the IG Head of Services Jules Alingete, party to the discussions, announced the $7 billion intended for road infrastructure over the entire area of the Democratic Republic of Congo.

However, several questions deserve to be asked and adequate answers must be given so that the entire Congolese population is enlightened because, in fact, it is the so-called contract “OF THE CENTURY”.

Spanning more than two decades, Congolese youth in general and Congolese elites in particular must keep their eyes peeled and carefully scrutinize the results of the negotiations as presented with pomp by the stakeholders.

First question:

Why the conclusions of the renegotiation provide 40% of the shares for the DRC and 60% for the Chinese side, in the operation of the Busanga Dam, while the 2010 memorandum of understanding on the creation of the Busanga dam provides for 49% shares for the DRC against 51% for the Chinese side?

What motivated the Congolese party, made up of the IGF and the President's office and many others, to sell off the Republic's shares by lowering them for the benefit of the Chinese party?

Second question

Why are other mining projects in the Democratic Republic of Congo obliged to pay 2.5% royalties to the Congolese party, unlike 1.2% that DRC negotiators were able to obtain in the renegotiation of the SINO-CONGOLESE contract?

Another audit commission must be set up in order to investigate the attitude of the Congolese negotiators towards the Chinese side, because we cannot understand that we are claiming a historic victory, when we are giving up % of dividends calculated in millions of dollars which should be used to raise the standard of living of the Congolese population.

Third question

Why is there opacity regarding the duration of the payment of 7 billion?

We are not told exactly when this amount will be fully paid to the Congolese side.

We use very simplistic rhetoric “Until the end of the project”.

And yet, the population must know for how many years these new clauses will apply.

It is relevant to shed light on the details of this project in order to avoid jeopardizing our youth who will be heirs to past errors made by negotiators.

Fourth question

Who manages the SINO-CONGOLESE contract?

Who are the interlocutors who represent the DRC on a daily basis to monitor and evaluate the implementation of the conventions?

We saw the IGF in front of the Tribune of Minister Patrick Muyaya, in the position of spokesperson for the Congolese side, is this a competence or attribution included in its prerogatives?

Can the IGF negotiate agreements on behalf of the DRC?

What about the structure recently launched by President Félix Tshisekedi, the Agency for Steering, Coordination and Monitoring of Collaboration Agreements?

Was she part of the commission that renegotiated this contract?

What were his contributions?

What is its share of responsibility in the opacity noted above?

Given this imbroglio observed in the progress of this process of renegotiation of the SINO-CONGOLESE contract, we ask for more light because there are still a good ten questions which will be asked in our second forum and they must not suffer from any area shadow.

We call on the dedicated structure for this file, in particular this monitoring and coordination agency (APCSC) to answer these questions in order to remove any ambiguity in the understanding of the evolution of this project whose negotiations seem to be marred by several inconsistencies which raise questions, suspicions of the existence of schemes negotiated and prepared in advance between the two parties.

mediacongo

 

[Ben_Jovi]

Pauline might get some traction, time to spam her feed

 

[JAG]

Does anyone here have a prepared letter regarding AVZ that they have already sent to the Gov?

If so can you send it to me please.