AVZ Discussion 2022

[Carlos Danger]

Because of the latest CAMI news in the past few days, my opinion is that the north is past for us. In an MoU, that will be publishes in the coming week, we will see, that we are a big part of the south area and get the ML for that. The condition for that are, to waive of the north, and to stop the ICC cases in Paris.
I share the opinion from Beisha. We have lost a big part of the project, but we haven't let everything. The south has enough resources for us to become a miner in the DRC. in the early December wi will trade again.

Its all my opinion, but it is not to unlikely.

Welcome Ulli

I share the opinion from Beisha. We have lost a big part of the project, but we haven't let everything.

I never stated that we have lost a big part of the project.....folks can deduce, but no one knows for fact !

Losing a big part of the project wouldnt align with what the AVZ bod stated below.......

Entry into MOU will be a significant step towards the development of the Manono project, it will also maintain positive working relationships with all stake holders.

I believe AVZ will be granted the ML for Roche Dure and have a role in the exploration of CDL, to what capacity, percentage wise and with whom is up for conjecture.

Hopefully , the crystal ball becomes a bit clearer come the AGM.

Just my opinion, nothing else.

So you know when you have reoccurring nightmares and one of them just happens to coincide with a wet dream? then you wake up not sure if you are scared or horny?

Yeah this isn't one of those times, but just wanted to check if anyone else knew the feeling. Shit is probably going to get heavy in the next few days, but remember everyone, Cominiere is acting in breach of ICC Emergency Injunction, ICSID can overturn termination of Dathcom voiding all pursuant actions, which includes Cominiere sole ownership of 13359 and the sale for north.

Manono Lithium SAS 31/69 JV between C and ZJ.

Yeah Beisha specifically stated that he thought we hadn't lost the north. As 9card points out well even with these new developments of a Zijin and Cominiere JV in the north there is still the potential of the ICSID awarding Dathcom its rights back, us winning a reinstatement of the Dathcom JVA within the DRC after the ICC confirms it isn't terminated or Felix coming in over the top of the MoM with a presidential order if there is an MoU for battery production in the works.

31/69. Sneaky CKK got another 2% out of them. He's not that stupid after all lol

 

[Azzler]

Because of the latest CAMI news in the past few days, my opinion is that the north is past for us. In an MoU, that will be publishes in the coming week, we will see, that we are a big part of the south area and get the ML for that. The condition for that are, to waive of the north, and to stop the ICC cases in Paris.
I share the opinion from Beisha. We have lost a big part of the project, but we haven't let everything. The south has enough resources for us to become a miner in the DRC. in the early December wi will trade again.

Its all my opinion, but it is not to unlikely.

G'day my good sir, I love your language, I wish I had the patience to learn more of it!

It may end up as you say but I'd hold off yet on claiming we have lost the north and have to look across the town and those scum at Zijin every day.
The show's not over yet and I think there's more plays to be had.

I think BoD should fight for what's right, even though I'm desperate to access my funds, very desperate, it's not right to just give up and accept what would amount to be an unbelieveable theft, valued in the BILLIONS!
I believe they will, I believe they are holding ace cards with the ICSID as a wild card.
The enemy is playing for time.

There's a move about to play out and I think it's going to be the MMGA crew offering a way out and back to trading with a licence for the south and dropping all cases. If the AVZ BoD decide to reject this deal and insist on legal process to establish our rights... well that might be a hard sell to shareholders after this lengthy suspension.
All the bad actors will be going hard telling everyone that AVZ will get nothing but years and years of litigation and unlikely to ever get a payout.

That verses a ML for a MASSIVE pegmatite of high grade lithium?
If that ends up being the ultimatum at the AGM, then the MMGA guys are probably going to win.

I assume this is the plan, because if those guys are offering nothing but words about a reset ? No one is voting for them.
But if they're offering a way out with a ML for the south and back to trading? I think they will have a slam dunk.

If that's how this is to play out, Nigel would have to concede.
Even if we are indeed holding all the cards to restore our rights, with all the frightening messages they'll be throwing out, well I can't see enough shareholders holding strong.

I try to remind myself at the end of the day that it's just business.

If we only get the south in the end, you know what I don't give a fuck really, whatever. It's still incredible value.
I got no say in how it turns out anyway.
And I just want out of this unbelieveably ridiculous situation and the shithole that is the DRC.
I feel so terrible for the people that live there under such massive corruption.

Felix's is still an unknown, he may end up being true to his word on anti-corruption, but then again maybe not. After all how does a system of corrupt filth let someone promoting anti-corruption rise to be president?

All just my musings and I wish us all good fortune in this!

Tschüss!​

 

[BRICK]

Well fuck me sideways. And I thought it was going to another quiet Sunday night.

We’ve got infiltrators, investigators, drug dealers and fat Leonard on a camera.

We’ve got golden oldies, rocking tunes, obewan bond and a few goons.

Weve got mad mick the dick spruiking bullshit on a paid piece suggesting AFR is a reputable tabloid.
Comon mick, you know what Kerry said about them .
Ya dick.

Now I guess we’re just waiting for Tommy the turd to enter from stage left to wet himself.

 

[MoneyBags1348]

MMGA getting ahead of themselves, trying to make it look like the north is being separated (CDL from RD) so they can propose making a deal and selling it to Zijin?

Franck seems to be wondering if Huljich is currently in the DRC….

Perhaps lunch at the Fleuve with Cong, Loando and Math?

By the way Huljich, your ex wife doesn’t like you does she

Some people make informed comments and some people just give their opinions based on what they ‘think’

And then some people give the trolls air and welcome them in as though they are long lost relatives who have turned up to help

That’s enough to make me think I’ve personally had enough, you can only give so many clues…. sick of trying to help some people here

 

[Carlos Danger]

G'day my good sir, I love your language, I wish I had the patience to learn more of it!

It may end up as you say but I'd hold off yet on claiming we have lost the north and have to look across the town and those scum at Zijin every day.
The show's not over yet and I think there's more plays to be had.

I think BoD should fight for what's right, even though I'm desperate to access my funds, very desperate, it's not right to just give up and accept what would amount to be an unbelieveable theft, valued in the BILLIONS!
I believe they will, I believe they are holding ace cards with the ICSID as a wild card.
The enemy is playing for time.

There's a move about to play out and I think it's going to be the MMGA crew offering a way out and back to trading with a licence for the south and dropping all cases. If the AVZ BoD decide to reject this deal and insist on legal process to establish our rights... well that might be a hard sell to shareholders after this lengthy suspension.
All the bad actors will be going hard telling everyone that AVZ will get nothing but years and years of litigation and unlikely to ever get a payout.

That verses a ML for a MASSIVE pegmatite of high grade lithium?
If that ends up being the ultimatum at the AGM, then the MMGA guys are probably going to win.

I assume this is the plan, because if those guys are offering nothing but words about a reset ? No one is voting for them.
But if they're offering a way out with a ML for the south and back to trading? I think they will have a slam dunk.

If that's how this is to play out, Nigel would have to concede.
Even if we are indeed holding all the cards to restore our rights, with all the frightening messages they'll be throwing out, well I can't see enough shareholders holding strong.

I try to remind myself at the end of the day that it's just business.

If we only get the south in the end, you know what I don't give a fuck really, whatever. It's still incredible value.
I got no say in how it turns out anyway.
And I just want out of this unbelieveably ridiculous situation and the shithole that is the DRC.
I feel so terrible for the people that live there under such massive corruption.

Felix's is still an unknown, he may end up being true to his word on anti-corruption, but then again maybe not. After all how does a system of corrupt filth let someone promoting anti-corruption rise to be president?

All just my musings and I wish us all good fortune in this!

Tschüss!​

There's no guarantee MMGA would cut a deal before they resumed trading imo

Wouldn't put it past any or all of them to be short

 

[Carlos Danger]

Well fuck me sideways. And I thought it was going to another quiet Sunday night.

We’ve got infiltrators, investigators, drug dealers and fat Leonard on a camera.

We’ve got golden oldies, rocking tunes, obewan bond and a few goons.

Weve got mad mick the dick spruiking bullshit on a paid piece suggesting AFR is a reputable tabloid.
Comon mick, you know what Kerry said about them .
Ya dick.

Now I guess we’re just waiting for Tommy the turd to enter from stage left to wet himself.

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CSI Kinshasa

 

[Charbella]

Well fuck me sideways. And I thought it was going to another quiet Sunday night.

We’ve got infiltrators, investigators, drug dealers and fat Leonard on a camera.

We’ve got golden oldies, rocking tunes, obewan bond and a few goons.

Weve got mad mick the dick spruiking bullshit on a paid piece suggesting AFR is a reputable tabloid.
Comon mick, you know what Kerry said about them .
Ya dick.

Now I guess we’re just waiting for Tommy the turd to enter from stage left to wet himself.

Blockbuster movie in making, “Blood Lithium”!

 

[Remark]

Maybe you can get a decent haircut while you're in DRC Leonard

 

[Winenut]

Blockbuster movie in making, “Blood Lithium”!

Ahem!!!...........it's ......"The tale of AVZ"

Already in production

Just sayin'

 

[Winenut]

Seriously the fat fuck can't get the length of his tie correct ....so overcompensating and Trumpesque

I think I need to spew

 

[Winenut]

Maybe you can get a decent haircut while you're in DRC Leonard

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There's a cracking Nth Korean barber in Kinshasa

Leonard will be fine......

 

[SilentOne]

Hang on, did someone say....

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Gina,

She is awesome - I have a fan club T-Shirt of her - I am a big fan.

SilentOne.

 

[marksmann007]

Where’s our big AVZ Chinese holders in this and why so silent?

Motormouth CKK’s been running around like a lunatic for years now seemingly with a license to do whatever the fuck he wants illegally, corruptly, holding up the project for years, apparently untouchable by the law in the DRC for all the world to see, promoted & recently claiming AVZ / Dathcom are out.

To my knowledge we’ve heard nothing from the top 4 or 5 Chinese AVZ holders like Huayou, Yibin etc with a combined $billion or so in equity on the last traded price taken from them & potentially reduced to zero.

Would they not up in arms, throwing their weight & influence around & on the war path if this really was the case?

A big thanks to the massive effort, time & contributions many people put in here.

 

[Goat]

I haven't chimed in for a few weeks, but I can confirm the following:

1. The various social media accounts on X/Twitter are doing a great job spreading propaganda so convincing that some of you loyal positive posters are now doubting yourselves.
2. The CAMI portal cadastre site is not to be taken seriously, the idiot doing changes in backend of the database is a bribed puppet who has been told to make it appear that AVZ has lost its rights to 13359 and it's separated. This is NOT OFFICIAL nor a trusted source.
3. AVZ only very recently had discussions with THE PRESIDENT OF THE DRC and are making headway regarding a MoU to move forward to issue the ML.
4. Cominere posting videos of work being done at Mpiana is not Cominere! It can't be confirmed if it's AVZ power old footage or another 3rd party.
5. MMGA are having meetings with their cronies, they are not meeting AVZ BOD staff, the president, the MOM or anyone in a decision making position regarding the future of AVZ. They are just the equivalent of your belly button fluff.

Do any of you think that AVZ will simply be stripped of their resource this late in the game with pending and active ICC and ICSID cases ?
You really think Zijin and Cominere can just drive their tractors in to the Northern tenement and start cutting holes and scooping spod out the ground?

People need to trust the legal process and wait for AVZ to push out an announcement.

CALM THE HELL DOWN EVERYONE!

 

[Scoota30]

I keep wondering to myself - if @MoneyBags1348 is doing some excellent work with the Northbridge photos release as well as keeping the threads updated with all seperate topics & @obe wan now doing this release in Congs hotel, do AVZ have their on Private Investigators and what kind of evidence do they have on these stooges that isn't public knowledge. Do they have a smoking gun?

If so, how involved is the FIRB and also the Federal police? Surely this falls under the category of National interest. There is more than enough evidence publicly now to warrant a thorough investigation. It wouldn't be hard for the Feds to tie all of these stooges together.

 

[TDITD]

I haven't chimed in for a few weeks, but I can confirm the following:

1. The various social media accounts on X/Twitter are doing a great job spreading propaganda so convincing that some of you loyal positive posters are now doubting yourselves.
2. The CAMI portal cadastre site is not to be taken seriously, the idiot doing changes in backend of the database is a bribed puppet who has been told to make it appear that AVZ has lost its rights to 13359 and it's separated. This is NOT OFFICIAL nor a trusted source.
3. AVZ only very recently had discussions with THE PRESIDENT OF THE DRC and are making headway regarding a MoU to move forward to issue the ML.
4. Cominere posting videos of work being done at Mpiana is not Cominere! It can't be confirmed if it's AVZ power old footage or another 3rd party.
5. MMGA are having meetings with their cronies, they are not meeting AVZ BOD staff, the president, the MOM or anyone in a decision making position regarding the future of AVZ. They are just the equivalent of your belly button fluff.

Do any of you think that AVZ will simply be stripped of their resource this late in the game with pending and active ICC and ICSID cases ?
You really think Zijin and Cominere can just drive their tractors in to the Northern tenement and start cutting holes and scooping spod out the ground?

People need to trust the legal process and wait for AVZ to push out an announcement.

CALM THE HELL DOWN EVERYONE!

GOAT you need to post more.

My favourite part was:

Do any of you think that AVZ will simply be stripped of their resource this late in the game with pending and active ICC and ICSID cases

 

[Carlos Danger]

I keep wondering to myself - if @MoneyBags1348 is doing some excellent work with the Northbridge photos release as well as keeping the threads updated with all seperate topics & @obe wan now doing this release in Congs hotel, do AVZ have their on Private Investigators and what kind of evidence do they have on these stooges that isn't public knowledge. Do they have a smoking gun?

If so, how involved is the FIRB and also the Federal police? Surely this falls under the category of National interest. There is more than enough evidence publicly now to warrant a thorough investigation. It wouldn't be hard for the Feds to tie all of these stooges together.

Manono definitely is in Australia's national interest according to FIRB and this is clearly a conspiracy to steal the asset on China's behalf using an all white puppet trojan horse. Beggars belief it hasn't been stopped already. MMGA getting control of AVZ is not going to contribute to our objective of developing secure, resilient and sustainable global supply chains for critical minerals imo

 

[pow4ade]

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Some people make informed comments and some people just give their opinions based on what they ‘think’

And then some people give the trolls air and welcome them in as though they are long lost relatives who have turned up to help

That’s enough to make me think I’ve personally had enough, you can only give so many clues…. sick of trying to help some people here

Relax, you're jumping at shadows, again. You're the only one calling Ulli a troll over his entirely plausible scenario. Stick to AVZ PR. TSE can look after itself thanks v much.

 

[Papst]

Any German around here, who managed to register for the AGM? I think some years ago I received a notification concerning AVZ's AGM in my bank inbox, but didn't bother about it. I didn't receive anything like that this year and I couldn't find anything in my records, though. So I might be mistaken. Anyhow, did someone contact their broker? I am Holding my shares at comdirect btw.

 

[Carlos Danger]

I haven't chimed in for a few weeks, but I can confirm the following:

1. The various social media accounts on X/Twitter are doing a great job spreading propaganda so convincing that some of you loyal positive posters are now doubting yourselves.
2. The CAMI portal cadastre site is not to be taken seriously, the idiot doing changes in backend of the database is a bribed puppet who has been told to make it appear that AVZ has lost its rights to 13359 and it's separated. This is NOT OFFICIAL nor a trusted source.
3. AVZ only very recently had discussions with THE PRESIDENT OF THE DRC and are making headway regarding a MoU to move forward to issue the ML.
4. Cominere posting videos of work being done at Mpiana is not Cominere! It can't be confirmed if it's AVZ power old footage or another 3rd party.
5. MMGA are having meetings with their cronies, they are not meeting AVZ BOD staff, the president, the MOM or anyone in a decision making position regarding the future of AVZ. They are just the equivalent of your belly button fluff.

Do any of you think that AVZ will simply be stripped of their resource this late in the game with pending and active ICC and ICSID cases ?
You really think Zijin and Cominere can just drive their tractors in to the Northern tenement and start cutting holes and scooping spod out the ground?

People need to trust the legal process and wait for AVZ to push out an announcement.

CALM THE HELL DOWN EVERYONE!

GOAT you need to post more.

My favourite part was:

Do any of you think that AVZ will simply be stripped of their resource this late in the game with pending and active ICC and ICSID cases

There is a clear distinction between AVZ and Dathcom's good legal titles and the legal situation within the DRC

A good example is the Dathomir 15% which we have good legal title to but don't currently own on the RCCM within the DRC due to multiple court cases that Cong won. I did read through the decisions and the tldr is they were criminal cases dealing with the validity of the creation of the share certificates not a decision on the merits of Cong's claims to the termination per se. The judge repeatedly recognises the need for this matter to be heard by an 'arbitral judge'.

For the PR renewal in Cominiere's name CAMI are following the MoM's decree. And I suspect we are about to see another one for the partition of the north. She has repeatedly backed Cominiere's claims since the beginning of this year and I see no indication that has changed. If she wanted to give us back the tenement she could have. She is the one with authority not Cominiere.

Or do you have a reason to think the PR renewal decree is also not to be taken seriously?