AVZ Discussion 2022

[Spikerama]

Yeah quote the dickhead and then refute the fuckers bullshit.....

Good idea Wino!

Instead of wasting time preaching to the converted here with part 4 or whatever you're up to with AVZ meme narrative, put a bit of effort into this and share it here and on the Assets Page.

 

[kron]

Must confess to feeling a bit overwhelmed this morning...

Yeah me too j.l. it's definitely one of those days/weeks/months...I'm going for a jog by the river to clear my head. Chin up though. Hopefully some clarification next week after that meeting that was mentioned.

 

[JNRB]

For my 2c,

I always see the amount of shitfuckery as somewhat proportionate reaction to how actual discussions are progressing.
The more things gradually move in our favour, the harder the snakes have to work to try and make it look like it's going in the other direction.

So while the fact we are always left out from actual details makes the current portal updates concerning, I see all this (Mpinga, MMGA, Cami portal) as a visible negative reaction that what is hopefully invisible positive progress.

Lets remember that while we haven't moved very far in 18 months:
- Neither have zijin, despite their best efforts they have rescinded (sort of) their 15% claim and things not looking good for them at arbitration
- Cominiere management got booted. Yes new management not much better but still getting rid of JFM is a big roadblock removed.
- AVZ 'case' now being handled by Department (ministry?) of Justice rather than Ministry of Mines
- We have confirmation that NF has ACTUALLY met with FT. Not just vague references to 'discussions with high-level government'
- We have had confirmation of embassy support and involvement
- We have had recent confirmation of an MoU, an actual tangible step forwards
- On top of the lithium we will have extra revenue from 'The tale of AVZ' when it gets released in cinema

And this is just from the bits we actually get to see. Most of our progress is confidential.
Despite their best efforts, the snakes may have stalled things but they have not made any progress in stealing anything. It looked like maybe they did when the tenement was split, but even that's been undone now.

I think we are getting close to a conclusion with all this, and I'm optimistic.
Remember - DRC gains NOTHING from letting zijin steal the project. The best outcome for DRC is still for AVZ/CATH to become the shining beacon for a new era of win-win* development in Manono, and that show's DRC can be a good destination for international investment.

(*the 'win-win' where both parties get a win. Not the Chinese version where they take 2-wins and the other party nothing)

 

[BEISHA]

I know people don't like seeing his posts around. But allegedly, deboss knows 4 of the noms.

Would be interested to know which ones.

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Looking to forward to catching up with DEBOSS come 23/11.....

Last AGM...

12 months later....

 

[Winenut]

Good idea Wino!

Instead of wasting time preaching to the converted here with part 4 or whatever you're up to with AVZ meme narrative, put a bit of effort into this and share it here and on the Assets Page.

Wasting time???!!

 

[Dazmac66]

Any word on what was discussed between the ambassador and Felix? You would think it would be common courtesy to publish a transcript of the meeting. I have just emailed the embassy in Zimbabwe, will post response if I get one.

 

[BEISHA]

Hey Scoota once again i agree totally with your thoughts here. I think is unlikely Nigel will roll over and will take this all the way if he has to. To this point pretty much everything thrown at us involves corruption and bribery driven iam sure by the deep pockets of the Chinese and there total disregard for the rule of law. In saying that these guys while being totally devoid of ethics or conscience are no doubt smart fuckers and are only to aware that even if they do get hold of our tenement they will have Nigel and a bunch of angry shareholders on their tail for however long it takes. The only way to avoid this situation is to gain control of AVZ hence the Chinese backed MMGA clowns all out bid for board control. I believe that pretty much everything to date has been leading to this and we are and will continue to be inundated with all sorts of bullshit before the AGM in a bid to sway shareholders to the dark side
Now is definately not the time to falter and in fact as these corrupt kunts are doing we need to go full on to make sure every shareholder is fully aware of the real story. Fuck Zijin Cominiere CKK Cong Tommy Lars etc etc

You give the chinese a inch, they will take a mile.

The time to make a stance was when Felix received the IGF report, that should of been the trigger to make the picture frame clear to Cominiere / Zijin that the corrupt practices of yesterday was not appreciated in the now.

Didnt happen, now Zijin / Cominiere / Cong etc are taking further liberties providing further rough shod, due to severe weakness from the head honcho.

AVZ had been left out to dry and fight a battle that they should never of had to, if only the IGF report was respected, AVZ was respected for what they found when no one else was willing and DRC law respected.

Sad.

imo

 

[BRICK]

Looks like the cuntz have removed the logo from the YouTube clip already???

 

[Sammy_da_Smile]

Watch the shifty cunt scratch his nose at 11:57 when disussing what would happen to the northern section and who it would go to

Lying shifty dodgy fucking body language 101

If these guys get in, us shareholders will end up with nothing and they'll walk out with millions in brown paper bags.

Everyone here should realise if MMGA get on the board we are so so screwed. They will sell it off for the lowest possible price and then walk out with millions from Zijin on the side. These guys aren't here to save the day for us shareholders. They are simply using that narrative to get the biggest pay day ever for themselves and Zijin.

Think about it, all this campaigning online, the green flyers etc what is really in it for MMGA?

Have faith in Nigel and BoD, they will come through for us.

 

[BEISHA]

Ahhh our young Geo the subtle troll.
Will either be wrong 999 times and correct once or wrong 1000 times. Time will tell

I hope he is right once where it really counts....

The track record of others are not exactly on point either to be fair....

18 months in the manure and the list of shit fuckery continues..

 

[9cardomaha]

My original intel was a split for 152... never shared (publicly) because it wasn't substantiated and a whole lot of plot holes in the content.

With the update to CAMI, not sure who the fuck Manono Lithium are, but trying to find out. It would make sense if it is ZJ + Cominiere under a 60/40 split. I recall in July they set up some shady fucking company, will double check to see if i have the registry stuff on the company.

Again don't board the hysteria train, most of this is operated under Cominiere's dumbass presumption that 13359 has been returned in full to them because of 'unharmonious relations' stated in 000031. This is not a fucking reason to terminate PR and the base arguement for ICSID. Every lawyer friend i've spoken to believes ICSID case is fucking game over red rover for DRC because, its a fucking weak ass argument and its not part of the DRC mining code (not that law and order mean jack shit in the DRC).

When parties engage in business with different core understandings and presumptions of ownership, but one has snacks and brown paper bags to throw around, they're going to do what corrupt fucks do. AVZ holding its positions at ICC and ICSID to push for a clean slate and clarity on the matter from a third party or at least a neutral party is imperative.

MMGA's fucking statements about ICC and these litigations being useless is fucking looney toons material and not the good kind, Space Jam 3 type of dog shit.

 

[timb89]

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My original intel was a split for 152... never shared because it wasn't substantiated and a whole lot of plot holes in the content.

With the update to CAMI, not sure who the fuck Manono Lithium are, but trying to find out. It would make sense if it is ZJ + Cominiere under a 60/40 split. I recall in July they set up some shady fucking company, will double check to see if i have the registry stuff on the company.

Again don't board the hysteria train, most of this is operated under Cominiere's dumbass presumption that 13359 has been returned in full to them because of 'unharmonious relations' stated in 000031. This is not a fucking reason to terminate PR and the base arguement for ICSID. Every lawyer friend i've spoken to believes ICSID case is fucking game over red rover for DRC because, its a fucking weak ass argument and its not part of the DRC mining code (not that law and order mean jack shit in the DRC).

When parties engage in business with different core understandings and presumptions of ownership, but one has snacks and brown paper bags to throw around, they're going to do what corrupt fucks do. AVZ holding its positions at ICC and ICSID to push for a clean slate and clarity on the matter from a third party or at least a neutral party is imperative.

MMGA's fucking statements about ICC and these litigations being useless is fucking looney toons material and not the good kind, Space Jam 3 type of dog shit.

Any speculation if/how AVZ are compensated for this?

 

[Remark]

Wasting time???!!

Everybody here is equal Mr Nut although some here think that they are more equal than others. Holier than thou syndrome much?

 

[RHyNO]

Wasting time???!!

Dude. I’m more into your Avz tales than any streaming service. Don’t stop the good work. It’s a beautiful bit of creativity that we all enjoy. You waste nothing.

 

[TDITD]

Any speculation if/how AVZ are compensated for this?

$16USD and a cap

 

[JAG]

Watch our interview with Michael Carrick, a nominated director for the board of AVZ Minerals. He discusses concerns with the company as part of the Make Manono Great Again initiative
@MMGACIC
Watch here: https://youtu.be/GxCxJ0RWZHg

 

[JAG]

Get your Fn arses off the couch, get on twitter and Fn pay these cnts back!!!!!

 

[cruiser51]

$16USD and a cap

I'll take the US$16, they can stick the fukkin Zijin cap in their dark place where the sun doesn't shine.

 

[Winenut]

I'll take the US$16, they can stick the fukkin Zijin cap in their dark place where the sun doesn't shine.

I think it would be an AVZ cap for every shareholder

At the moment these things are priceless so I'm concerned about dilution if they make more.....

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

For my 2c,

I always see the amount of shitfuckery as somewhat proportionate reaction to how actual discussions are progressing.
The more things gradually move in our favour, the harder the snakes have to work to try and make it look like it's going in the other direction.

So while the fact we are always left out from actual details makes the current portal updates concerning, I see all this (Mpinga, MMGA, Cami portal) as a visible negative reaction that what is hopefully invisible positive progress.

Lets remember that while we haven't moved very far in 18 months:
- Neither have zijin, despite their best efforts they have rescinded (sort of) their 15% claim and things not looking good for them at arbitration
- Cominiere management got booted. Yes new management not much better but still getting rid of JFM is a big roadblock removed.
- AVZ 'case' now being handled by Department (ministry?) of Justice rather than Ministry of Mines
- We have confirmation that NF has ACTUALLY met with FT. Not just vague references to 'discussions with high-level government'
- We have had confirmation of embassy support and involvement
- We have had recent confirmation of an MoU, an actual tangible step forwards
- On top of the lithium we will have extra revenue from 'The tale of AVZ' when it gets released in cinema

And this is just from the bits we actually get to see. Most of our progress is confidential.
Despite their best efforts, the snakes may have stalled things but they have not made any progress in stealing anything. It looked like maybe they did when the tenement was split, but even that's been undone now.

I think we are getting close to a conclusion with all this, and I'm optimistic.
Remember - DRC gains NOTHING from letting zijin steal the project. The best outcome for DRC is still for AVZ/CATH to become the shining beacon for a new era of win-win* development in Manono, and that show's DRC can be a good destination for international investment.

(*the 'win-win' where both parties get a win. Not the Chinese version where they take 2-wins and the other party nothing)

Excellent post @JNRB.

I‘d differently characterise the statement about the DRC getting nothing if #FuckZijin steal the project. It has never been about what the DRC gets out of it. It has always been what those with statutory decision-making authority can get out of it for themselves. Cunts like #FuckZijin with no morals perpetuate the status quo through their illegal and immoral dealings. Benefit to the DRC is a distant consideration, sadly.