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I’m glad you lot are having fun rather than actually doing anything to help the fight against all those corrupt actors who are trying to steal our project, I’m all for having fun and answering people who post a message to me but rather than wasting more time on bullshit, I’ll just get back to trying to think if there’s anything I can personally do to help our cause
 
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More pressure on the green Mamba....
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She is truly evil, and should be gone once Felix re-elected (if he is at all) - use her for the Pious vote then fuck her off
 
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She is truly evil, and should be gone once Felix re-elected (if he is at all) - use her for the Pious vote then fuck her off
You mean she'll get a promotion if recent history is anything to go on.
 
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She is truly evil, and should be gone once Felix re-elected (if he is at all) - use her for the Pious vote then fuck her off

If memory serves, Christian virtue is something about being selfless and helping others less fortunate than yourself. I’ve often wondered how people reconcile their personal greed, which has real-world impacts to the less fortunate, against their so-called Christian virtues. I hope it tortures their minds, but it probably does not. Christians after all, do make the best hypocrites.

Just imagine if some morally-bankrupt, sycophantic, cretin posted obsequious comments to said individual on Twitter as a way trying to curry favour for her own company, whilst simultaneously making us look like bastards. Oh wait, that vile kunt Lars already did that.
 
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cruiser51

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A good titty twister is more effective than any of that rubbish ol boy

Meanwhile, now this corrupt band of wannabe liars have now posted their exact same deceptive, misleading misinformation article on three sites



However the writer only signed with his name on Zoom Eco with 'Writing'.
If you click on that name Writing it says "Articles by the editorial name" and after the main heading it says "Press Release".

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DRC: Manono Lithium project, the next administrators of AVZ called to favor negotiations and not trials (press release)​

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September 8, 2023
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Writing

In the other rags the writer was anonymous, so the source highly likely had to pay to get their story published in all three papers.

In Mediacongo and 7sur7 after the heading it states 'Communication'.

It looks like you can get any bullshit posted, as long as the price is right.
Truth in that case is not important.
Problem with these publications is, if you use it as toilet paper, you finish up with cheap ink on your delicate parts.
 
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However the writer only signed with his name on Zoom Eco with 'Writing'.
If you click on that name Writing it says "Articles by the editorial name" and after the main heading it says "Press Release".

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DRC: Manono Lithium project, the next administrators of AVZ called to favor negotiations and not trials (press release)​

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Published
4 days ago

September 8, 2023
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Writing

In the other rags the writer was anonymous, so the source highly likely had to pay to get their story published in all three papers.

In Mediacongo and 7sur7 after the heading it states 'Communication'.

It looks like you can get any bullshit posted, as long as the price is right.
Truth in that case is not important.
Problem with these publications is, if you use it as toilet paper, you finish up with cheap ink on your delicate parts.
Your work, @cruiser51?
 
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Doc

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However the writer only signed with his name on Zoom Eco with 'Writing'.
If you click on that name Writing it says "Articles by the editorial name" and after the main heading it says "Press Release".

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DRC: Manono Lithium project, the next administrators of AVZ called to favor negotiations and not trials (press release)​

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Published
4 days ago

September 8, 2023
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Writing

In the other rags the writer was anonymous, so the source highly likely had to pay to get their story published in all three papers.

In Mediacongo and 7sur7 after the heading it states 'Communication'.

It looks like you can get any bullshit posted, as long as the price is right.
Truth in that case is not important.
Problem with these publications is, if you use it as toilet paper, you finish up with cheap ink on your delicate parts.
Hmmm do we know a journo who has an obvious agenda against AVZ that wouldn’t want their name published in articles like this….?
 
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1. The DRC is a dangerous place, the location of the BODs is a sensitive matter and current location is never revealed.
2. There are many parties doing whatever it takes to illegally acquire either the mining rights or shares held, they are not stopping and infact pushing a little harder right now. The inter-tangled web of corruption, bribery, extortion and blackmail is ever complex and new players arriving to chip in with their effort.
3. The AVZ BOD are working around the clock to get through both the treacherous acts of third parties trying to steal the world class asset as well as do their job of getting things in place to go mining.
4. Nigel has a huge job ahead, but he also has a huge reward and is totally invested in making it work - this is more than likely his last gig. His plans are not to go down with a sinking ship.
5. Despite what's going on, some headway is being made very recently - explicitly what ? I am not privy to such matters.
6. A takeover is not on the cards AT THE PRESENT. There have been offers made numerous times worth a pittance, not even worth communicating to shareholders.
7. The BOD are keeping very quiet for a reason, the ASX is fully supporting their strategic plans at present to not give anything up to those on the outskirts trying to weasel their way in.

Along with my family, I am super heavily invested - I have everything to gain or lose with AVZ. Yes I am frustrated and super stressed about what's at stake, but I believe we as investors need to perhaps just take some chill pills and put some trust in the BOD.
It's increasingly frustrating with the radio silence, but we have to understand Manono is a huge world class asset that will not remain in the ground. Its in the best interest of the DRC to allow it to be dug out by a 3rd party as they know they don't have the skills, funds, professionalism and integrity to do it successfully.

ICSID & ICC was the best thing to happen, the ball is back in the DRCs court to make the next positive and reformed step, anything contrary will make them look like much bigger flogs than they already are.

(Zijin, Cominiere, Felix & The Green Lady can go EAD)
 
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cruiser51

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Being a beach bum.
What is yours?

Ah and I fight people only if I know I'll win.
It's fuckin completely counter productive, to go into a fight, when you know you get your head bashed in.
Just a minor observation.

I kick people in the nuts, if I have to, just to win and after I'll ask if it hurts.
If they say no, I repeat to make sure, I hit the sweet spot.

I didn't invest in AVZ, to get arseholes like PH and cohorts steal it, as they did at ANL.

Fuk him and his stealing mates.

Got it?
 
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cruiser51

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Hmmm do we know a journo who has an obvious agenda against AVZ that wouldn’t want their name published in articles like this….?
You mean super wanker T?
 
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cruiser51

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1. The DRC is a dangerous place, the location of the BODs is a sensitive matter and current location is never revealed.
2. There are many parties doing whatever it takes to illegally acquire either the mining rights or shares held, they are not stopping and infact pushing a little harder right now. The inter-tangled web of corruption, bribery, extortion and blackmail is ever complex and new players arriving to chip in with their effort.
3. The AVZ BOD are working around the clock to get through both the treacherous acts of third parties trying to steal the world class asset as well as do their job of getting things in place to go mining.
4. Nigel has a huge job ahead, but he also has a huge reward and is totally invested in making it work - this is more than likely his last gig. His plans are not to go down with a sinking ship.
5. Despite what's going on, some headway is being made very recently - explicitly what ? I am not privy to such matters.
6. A takeover is not on the cards AT THE PRESENT. There have been offers made numerous times worth a pittance, not even worth communicating to shareholders.
7. The BOD are keeping very quiet for a reason, the ASX is fully supporting their strategic plans at present to not give anything up to those on the outskirts trying to weasel their way in.

Along with my family, I am super heavily invested - I have everything to gain or lose with AVZ. Yes I am frustrated and super stressed about what's at stake, but I believe we as investors need to perhaps just take some chill pills and put some trust in the BOD.
It's increasingly frustrating with the radio silence, but we have to understand Manono is a huge world class asset that will not remain in the ground. Its in the best interest of the DRC to allow it to be dug out by a 3rd party as they know they don't have the skills, funds, professionalism and integrity to do it successfully.

ICSID & ICC was the best thing to happen, the ball is back in the DRCs court to make the next positive and reformed step, anything contrary will make them look like much bigger flogs than they already are.

(Zijin, Cominiere, Felix & The Green Lady can go EAD)
You got that right.

So I have to laugh when people say these guys earn too much.

FFS get real, you can earn more in Australia, without risking your life.
 
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I just started to go through the lies in the article that the three stooges trying to scam their way onto our BOD have put in the media. I’m not even a quarter of the way through it and I’ve stopped to have a break because the lies, deception and misinformation is astounding and I have hardly even started to dissect it yet.

Here’s my answer to the first 6 lies, if you want to look at the article again for reference, it’s not hard to find on the threads….

1) Shareholders are not meeting to appoint three directors. AVZ is having it’s AGM and have directors already

2) The relationship between AVZ and state mining company Cominiere was affected by

i) Cominiere not granting AVZ the first right of refusal to buy 15% of Dathcom shares as was agreed to in signed contracts and

ii) Cominiere illegally and fraudulently selling 15% of Dathcom shares to Zijin. This sale of shares to Zijin was done at $120 million below the value of the shares, the proceeds of which were also squandered and there is undeniable evidence Celestin Kibeya Kabemba took a $2 million dollar bribe in the process.

3) AVZ Minerals raised funds to develop the project which had no financial effect on Cominiere, as Cominiere were incapable of raising funds.

4) The article states that AVZ stopped work on the ground (when clearly drilling and plant construction continued into 2023).

5) The reason the PR was not transferred into a PE was because the previous DG of CAMI wouldn’t determine the surface rights fee for AVZ to pay them. The fact is that AVZ fulfilled all obligations to receive the PE and was awarded the ministerial decree to issue the PE.

6) Cominiere has put the joint venture in it’s name and claims AVZ has no ownership in the JV project, but the ICC has made it clear that Cominiere cannot do this.
 
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wombat74

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I just started to go through the lies in the article that the three stooges trying to scam their way onto our BOD have put in the media. I’m not even a quarter of the way through it and I’ve stopped to have a break because the lies, deception and misinformation is astounding and I have hardly even started to dissect it yet.

Here’s my answer to the first 6 lies, if you want to look at the article again for reference, it’s not hard to find on the threads….

1) Shareholders are not meeting to appoint three directors. AVZ is having it’s AGM and have directors already

2) The relationship between AVZ and state mining company Cominiere was affected by

i) Cominiere not granting AVZ the first right of refusal to buy 15% of Dathcom shares as was agreed to in signed contracts and

ii) Cominiere illegally and fraudulently selling 15% of Dathcom shares to Zijin. This sale of shares to Zijin was done at $120 million below the value of the shares, the proceeds of which were also squandered and there is undeniable evidence Celestin Kibeya Kabemba took a $2 million dollar bribe in the process.

3) AVZ Minerals raised funds to develop the project which had no financial effect on Cominiere, as Cominiere were incapable of raising funds.

4) The article states that AVZ stopped work on the ground (when clearly drilling and plant construction continued into 2023).

5) The reason the PR was not transferred into a PE was because the previous DG of CAMI wouldn’t determine the surface rights fee for AVZ to pay them. The fact is that AVZ fulfilled all obligations to receive the PE and was awarded the ministerial decree to issue the PE.

6) Cominiere has put the joint venture in it’s name and claims AVZ has no ownership in the JV project, but the ICC has made it clear that Cominiere cannot do this.
Anyway we know very shortly these f--kers are dead in the water and Klaus and his bum chums Chong and Peter can go suck a dead dog's dick .
 
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These court cases can't come fast enough.
 
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However the writer only signed with his name on Zoom Eco with 'Writing'.
If you click on that name Writing it says "Articles by the editorial name" and after the main heading it says "Press Release".

Zoom Eco:

IN THE NEWS

DRC: Manono Lithium project, the next administrators of AVZ called to favor negotiations and not trials (press release)​

Avatar of La Rédaction

Published
4 days ago

September 8, 2023
By
Writing

In the other rags the writer was anonymous, so the source highly likely had to pay to get their story published in all three papers.

In Mediacongo and 7sur7 after the heading it states 'Communication'.

It looks like you can get any bullshit posted, as long as the price is right.
Truth in that case is not important.
Problem with these publications is, if you use it as toilet paper, you finish up with cheap ink on your delicate part 1st would fin

Seems to be everything the drc elites are not.
 
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Amnesty International report on battery minerals and human rights violated in the DRC by foreign multinationals and authorities​

September 12, 2023
Kiki Kienge


By Kiki Kienge
A message was sent to the President of the Republic, Félix-Antoine Tshisekedi by Amnesty International asking him to put an end to forced evictions and other human rights abuses committed in copper and cobalt mines.
This is a report presented this September 12 which is based on the extractions of cobalt and copper in Grand Katanga and precisely in the province of Lualaba, minerals which are used in the manufacture of electric batteries, particularly for vehicles and other products. for renewable energies, a global challenge for the survival of our planet.
A report co-written by Candy Ofime and Jean-Mobert Menga , all Amnesty International researchers and collaborators, who said:
“We found multiple violations of legal protections provided by both international human rights standards and domestic law, as well as blatant disregard for the UN Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights. »
THE REPORT :
Several facts going against human rights were noted by the two OMG international researchers in Greater Katanga, especially:
Demolished housing ;
In the Cité Gécamines district of Kolwezi in the Lualaba province where more than 39,000 people live, Compagnie Minière de Musonoie Global SAS (COMMUS) , a joint venture between the Chinese group Zijin Mining Group Ltd and Générale des Carrières et des Mines SA ( Gécamines ), state mining company of the DRC.
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House that was demolished to expand a mineral mine in Kolwezi
Hundreds of residents have received orders from the authorities of the Lualaba province to leave their homes and many have already left since the resumption of mining activities without being consulted and the plans to expand the ZIJIN mine. have not been made public, many houses have already been destroyed to make way for mining activities.
Some compensation has been granted by COMMUS to a few people, but this does not allow those compensated to buy housing equivalent to that which they have just lost.
“We did not ask to be relocated, it was the company and the government who came to tell us that there are minerals here,” Edmond Musans , 62 years old.
“I had a big house, with electricity, water... Now, I have a small house, that's all I was able to buy with the compensation received [...], we have to consume the water from the boreholes […] We have almost no electricity. » declared a former resident evicted from the Gécamines city.
Cécile Isaka , another former resident, said explosions for the mine expansion created such large cracks in her house that she feared it would collapse. With no other solution, she accepted the compensation offer and demolished her damaged house in 2022 so that she could reuse the bricks to rebuild another one elsewhere.
Houses burned and residents injured ;
The Mutoshi site, operated by the Chemical of Africa SA (Chemaf) group, a subsidiary of Chemaf Resources Ltd, headquartered in Dubai, soldiers are said to have burned an entire informal settlement in Kolwezi, named Mukumbi.
“After Chemaf obtained the lease for the concession in 2015, three people claiming to be representatives of the company visited me with two police officers to inform me that it was time for the residents of Mukumbi to clear the site which is our village, these Chemaf representatives came to see me four times. » Ernest Miji , chief of Mukumbi, a village which was made up of around 400 structures, including a school, a health facility and a church, which were destroyed on November 7, 2016 for the construction of the Chemaf mine.
“The Chemaf representative told us that now we should leave the village, we asked him where would we go if this is our village where we raise our children, we cultivate and educate our children. We had nothing to survive, we spent nights and nights in the bush. Soldiers from the Republican Guard, an elite military unit led by the Presidency of the Republic, arrived one morning and began burning homes and beating villagers who tried to stop them. We couldn't recover anything, we had nothing to survive, we spent nights and nights in the bush. » Kanini Maska, another former resident aged 57.
A little girl, who was two years old at the time and who we have chosen not to name, was badly burned and left with irreversible scars. Her uncle said the mattress she was lying on caught fire.
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Little girl burned and injured during the destruction of the village of Mukumbi
After several protests, Chemaf agreed in 2019 to pay US$1.5 million through local authorities, but some people only received US$300. Chemaf denies any fault, responsibility or involvement in the destruction of Mukumbi and claims not to have ordered the military to destroy it.
As during the genocide in Germany, red crosses were marked on the fences of houses whose inhabitants were to be evicted and their houses demolished.
Destruction of crops and sexual assaults, stop forced evictions ;
The Kazakh group, Eurasian Resources group SARL (ERG), with its Metalkol Roan Tailings Reclamation (Metalkol RTR) project, was not spared from the report of this investigation into cobalt and copper from Grand Katanga.
Near Kolwezi, a subsidiary of Eurasian Resources Group SARL (ERG), headquartered in Luxembourg and whose majority shareholder is the State of Kazakhstan, manages the Metalkol Roan Tailings Reclamation (Metalkol RTR) project.
In February 2020, twenty-one farmers whose crops were located around the concession near the village of Tshamundenda, without being consulted by the authorities and without any notice, soldiers of the Republican Guard with dogs, occupied their fields by force and on the other side bulldozers were razing their crops.
Kabibi , the alias of a farmer from Tshamunenda, told investigators:
“To date, I have no job or other sources of income. I go from house to house to find food for my children. As I tried to harvest my crops before they were destroyed, three soldiers grabbed me before raping me, while others watched the scene. I remained pregnant after this rape, I gave birth later without complications, fortunately despite the lack of medical care. I am a widow, I cannot afford to enroll my children in school…”
The ERG group declared that it did not control nor had it requested the authorities to deploy soldiers. The company said the Congolese government believes the farmers' collective had been compensated by a former mine operator, something the farmers deny.
Stop forced evictions ;
“The international mining companies involved have ample means to make the changes needed to protect human rights, put in place procedures that improve the lives of people in the region, and provide reparations for the harm caused. » Donat Kambola, coordinator of the IBGDH, said.
“The Democratic Republic of Congo can play a central role in the energy transition to abandon fossil fuels, but human rights must not be trampled in the race to extract minerals to decarbonize the global economy. » Agnès Callamard, Secretary General of Amnesty International, said.
Amnesty International's report urges Congolese authorities to immediately end forced evictions, create an impartial commission of inquiry, and strengthen and enforce national laws relating to mining activities and evictions in line with international human rights standards. .
Authorities actively participated in or facilitated forced evictions and failed in their obligation to protect human rights, including those under the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights and the Guiding Principles on Business and human rights. The military should never be involved in evictions.
Companies' claims that they adhere to strict ethical standards ring hollow. They have a responsibility to investigate identified human rights abuses, provide meaningful reparations and take necessary steps to prevent future harm. All companies must ensure that their operations do not harm populations on the front lines of mining activity.
 
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If memory serves, Christian virtue is something about being selfless and helping others less fortunate than yourself. I’ve often wondered how people reconcile their personal greed, which has real-world impacts to the less fortunate, against their so-called Christian virtues. I hope it tortures their minds, but it probably does not. Christians after all, do make the best hypocrites.

Just imagine if some morally-bankrupt, sycophantic, cretin posted obsequious comments to said individual on Twitter as a way trying to curry favour for her own company, whilst simultaneously making us look like bastards. Oh wait, that vile kunt Lars already did that.
" Christians after all, do make the best hypocrites."

Not just Christians but Muslims and many other religions it is all about absolute control of the mind through fear, and so-called well educated and intelligent people fall in the same trap.
 
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