AVZ Discussion 2022

Doc

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Pretty sure we aren't headed for the courts even if it doesn't eventuate this week.
I think it might be happening this week, but I'm not sure of anything anymore. The DRC are just slow and useless.
Really appreciate the updates you and others give in regards to winks and nods etc but I can’t help but wonder if we all being played for fools. Not one wink or nod in 12+ months have actually eventuated into something of significance.
Maybe I’m just old, cranky and cynical but it’s almost like people in DRC are providing false hope perhaps hoping AVZ didn’t go further with courts proceedings etc while we get stabbed in the back.
Anyways enough doom and gloom from me. Could be a big week!!

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Azzler

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Really appreciate the updates you and others give in regards to winks and nods etc but I can’t help but wonder if we all being played for fools. Not one wink or nod in 12+ months have actually eventuated into something of significance.
Maybe I’m just old, cranky and cynical but it’s almost like people in DRC are providing false hope perhaps hoping AVZ didn’t go further with courts proceedings etc while we get stabbed in the back.
Anyways enough doom and gloom from me. Could be a big week!!

Its Time Vegas GIF by BPONGofficial
100% mate, I've thought the same. What pulls be back though is seeing the change at CAMI and our meeting at last, Com changing their tune about AVZ's ownership, the pressure the court cases have put on the DRC.
I feel confident that at the least we've got a good outcome (if not wonderful), it's just a matter of when.
May wealth once again grace us all! :)
 
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whales

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100% mate, I've thought the same. What pulls be back though is seeing the change at CAMI and our meeting at last, Com changing their tune about AVZ's ownership, the pressure the court cases have put on the DRC.
I feel confident that at the least we've got a good outcome (if not wonderful), it's just a matter of when.
May wealth once again grace us all! :)
Agree the removal of Mupande was significant.
The snakes head was crushed.
Opens the door for surface rights to be issued on all of 13359.
Can FT ask for ML to be issued without the direction and findings of ICC result ?
 
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Cumquat Cap

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Believe Felix is incentivised TO issue the ML urgently to avoid ICC proceedings happening in the first place.

God it takes so long to get any work done over there, not conducive for companies floating on an exchange at all
 
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Winenut

GO AVZ!!!!


And if it's not today then surely it must be tomorrow....:oops::rolleyes:
 
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JasonM

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if nothing happens this week and they have their DRC mining week without making progress on the ML then they really are a bunch of dumb fucks, they're advertising to the world they are worse than corrupt, they are fucking useless, senseless fucks as well.

This week on the big stage is the perfect opportunity to start to set things straight and begin the long process of recovering their reputation. I truly feel sorry for the poor souls that live in this country and get fucked over by the few.

I've been hopeful that things would work out but at the end of this week if there is no progress, I think I need to face reality and bring myself to the realisation that we're going to court and I wont see a fucking cent for years. anyway thats how I'm currently seeing things.

things do seem quiet and seems some positive steps are being made but I fear nige is as stubborn as a fucking ox, not giving an inch and on the other side are the corrupt greedy fuckers wanting something, so we end in a stalemate and off to court.

Happy monday everyone and condolences for the 16+ months of shit we've all been going through.
 
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Dom1974

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Even if no news prior, forum will be the perfect opportunity to showcase everything AVZ has done with pictures and videos in light of all the false information that was circulated. Also makes it harder for Govt to subsequently do a backflip for whatever reason after showing the world all the work and $ invested. Imagine going to ICSID after AVZ has been Cobalt Plus Sponsor for over 12 months and then presenting. How do you defend that not to mention all the other damning evidence.
 
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Doc

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That is why Africa is so poor with people starving and having to deal with wars. They are in desparate need of leaders who know how to govern. Suggest they need us white man more than ever.
Stand Up What GIF by 800 Pound Gorilla Media
 
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Winenut

GO AVZ!!!!
That is why Africa is so poor with people starving and having to deal with wars. They are in desparate need of leaders who know how to govern. Suggest they need us white man more than ever.
Here's a thought...

Maybe take down your ridiculously racist post
 
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geo_au

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The EU passed the legislation re critical raw materials on Thursday night... forming partnerships with third party countries for materials was within it... just a summary here, not a great deal yet...

Germany is returning to oil and coal for energy as its economy tanks and who can blame the once most powerful country in Europe. The science around global warming is deeply flawed and has nothing to do with the burning of fossel fuels.
 
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Winenut

GO AVZ!!!!
Germany is returning to oil and coal for energy as its economy tanks and who can blame the once most powerful country in Europe. The science around global warming is deeply flawed and has nothing to do with the burning of fossel fuels.
Then get off the AVZ lithium thread you clown

Why do you think we are here?

Fuck me you're a wacko

Why don't we open up whale hunting season again just to go for a trifecta of indescribable idiocy ???
 
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Even if no news prior, forum will be the perfect opportunity to showcase everything AVZ has done with pictures and videos in light of all the false information that was circulated. Also makes it harder for Govt to subsequently do a backflip for whatever reason after showing the world all the work and $ invested. Imagine going to ICSID after AVZ has been Cobalt Plus Sponsor for over 12 months and then presenting. How do you defend that not to mention all the other damning evidence.
Only concern I have re presentation is it’s only a 10 min period with a 5 min Q&A after. Barely any time to cover everything
 
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Winenut

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Dom1974

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The ultimate tease will be an AVZ announcement in the morning, providing investors with a copy of the presentation. :rolleyes:
 
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Xerof

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Fuck, we can't even get a Change of Registry Address Announcement like almost every other ASX company, as it hasn't changed:eek::eek:
 
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SilentOne

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Here's a thought...

Maybe take down your ridiculously racist post
Hi Winenut,

The observation is not racist - I have worked in 3rd world countries. Geo's point is that we dont get involved in the local politics and we tend to be allot more egalitarian. The locals tend to view working for international companies more prestigious except for Sin Bin and that ilk.

Regards,

SilentOne
 
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geo_au

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Then get off the AVZ lithium thread you clown

Why do you think we are here?

Fuck me you're a wacko

Why don't we open up whale hunting season again just to go for a trifecta of indescribable idiocy ???
There's money to be made in lithium that's why I'm here. Going all electric too soon will ruin economies around the world as we are transition too quickly from fossil fuels to all electric as you will find out the hard way i.e in the hip pocket.
 
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Hi Winenut,

The observation is not racist - I have worked in 3rd world countries. Geo's point is that we dont get involved in the local politics and we tend to be allot more eglatartine. The locals tend to view working for international companies more prestigious except for Sin Bin and that ilk.

Regards,

SilentOne
I had a eglatartine once, it was delicious😋
 
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cruiser51

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Maybe the following out of the Dathomir contract, pages 25 and 26, has something to do with it:

( Contrat de Joint-Venture » signifie le contrat de joint-venture, incluant ses Annexes, conclu entre COMINIERE SA, AVZ, DATHCOM Mining SAS et DATHOMIR SARL le 27 janvier 2017 ;
«Amendement NUl » signifie l'amendement conclu le 25 mars 2017 entre COMINIERE SA, AVZ, DATHCOM Mining :;AS, DATHOMIR SARL et AVZ International amendant le Contrat de Joint-Venture;

« Permis de Hecherche AdditIonnels )) signifie les permis de recherche No. 12436, 12449, 12450 and 12454,

({ Perrr Is de Recherche n° 1 2 4 3 6 » désigne le permis n° 12436 accordé à LA CONGOLAISE D'EXPLOITATION MINIERE le 29 août 2011, portant le certificat n° CAMI/CR/6416/11 délivré le 24 octobm 2011, étendu par décret n° 0210/CAB.MINjMINES/01j2016 du 10 mai 2016, autorisant son titulaim, pOUl' la période comprise entre le 29 août 2011 et le 28 août 2018, à conduire, dans le Périmètre concerné, des travaux de recherche portant sur les substances minérales suivantes: Argent, Étain, Coltan, Or et Wolframite.

«Perm5 de Recherche n° 12449» désigne le permis n° 12449 accordé à LA CONGOLAISE D'EXPLOITATION MINIERE le 29 août 2011, portant le certificat n° CAMI/CR/6433/11 délivré le 24 octobre 2011, étendu par décret n° 0216/CAB.MIN/MINES/Olj2016 du 10 mai 2016, autorisant son titulaire, pour la période comprise entre le 29 aoOt 2011 et le 28 aoOt 2018, à conduire, dans te Périmètre concerné, des travaux de recherche portant sur les substances minérales suivantes: Argent, Ëtain, Coltan, Or et Wolframite.

«Permiti de Hecherche n° 12450)} désigne le permis n° 12450 accordé à LA CONGOLAISE D'EXPLCITATION MINIERE le 29 août 2011, portant le certificat n° CAMI/CRj6434/11 délivré le 24 octobre 2011, étendu par décret n° 0217/CAB.MIN/MINES/01/2016 du 10 mai 2016, autorisant son titulaire, pour la période comprise entre le 29 août 2011 et le 28 aoOt 2018, à conduire, dans le Périmèt.e concerné, des travaux de recherche portant sur les substances minérales suivantes: Argent, Hain, Coltan, Or, et Wolframite.

«Permis de Recherche n° 12454)} désigne le permis n° 12454 accordé à LA CONGOLAISE D'EXPLOITATIOI\J MINIERE le29 ao t 2011
,'étendu par décret n° 0219/CAB.MIN/MINES/Ol/2016 du 10 mai 2016, autorisant son titulaire, pour la périooe comprise entre le 29. août 2011 et le 28 août 2018, à conduire, dans le Périmètre concerné. des tl"avaux de recherche portant sur les substances minérales suivantes: Coltan, lithium et Wolframite.

« Permis de Rncherche n° 13359» désigne le permis n° 13359 accordé" à LA, CONGOLAISE D'EXPLOI""ATIOI\I MINIERE le 29 décembre 2016, portant le certificat n° CAMI/CR/7114j16 délivré le 29 décembre 2016, autorisant son titulaire, pour la période comprise entre,le 28 décembre 2016 et le 27 déc~!mbre ,2.021, à conduire, dans le Périmètre concerné, des travaux de recherche portant sur les substa 1ces minérales suivantes: Coltan, Lithium et Wolframite.

« PLe )} a l:l signlf'ication qui lui est donnée à l'Article 16.3 ;

« Premièrl! ~chéélnce )) a la signification qui lui est donnée à j'Article 5.2(a){JJi) ;

« Président» signifie le président de DATHCOM Mining SAS.

« Réalisatil)n de h Cession ») a la significGltion qui lui est donnée à l'Article 2Bis.l ;

«TermShel!t Obligatoire )} désigne le termsheet ayant force obligatoire conclu entre COMINIERE SA, DATHOMIR SARL E!t AVZ le 23 novembre 2016 afin de formaliser l'Acquisition;

« Vlce-Chalrman » signifie 1 vice-président du Conseil de Gérance de DATHCOM Mining SAS;



Translated:

(Joint Venture Contract” means the joint venture contract, including its Annexes, concluded between COMINIERE SA, AVZ, DATHCOM Mining SAS and DATHOMIR SARL on January 27, 2017;

“VOID Amendment” means the amendment concluded on March 25, 2017 between COMINIERE SA, AVZ, DATHCOM Mining:;AS, DATHOMIR SARL and AVZ International amending the Joint Venture Contract;


“Additional Research Permits” means research permits No. 12436, 12449, 12450 and 12454,

({ Perrr Is de Recherche n° 1 2 4 3 6 » designates permit n° 12436 granted to LA CONGOLAISE D'EXPLOITATION MINIERE on August 29, 2011, bearing certificate n° CAMI/CR/6416/11 issued on October 24, 2011 , extended by decree no. 0210/CAB.MINjMINES/01j2016 of May 10, 2016, authorizing its title, for the period between August 29, 2011 and August 28, 2018, to conduct, in the Perimeter concerned, research work relating to the following mineral substances: Silver, Tin, Coltan, Gold and Wolframite.

“Research Perm5 No. 12449” designates permit No. 12449 granted to LA CONGOLAISE D’EXPLOITATION MINIERE on August 29, 2011, bearing certificate No. CAMI/CR/6433/11 issued on October 24, 2011, extended by decree No. 0216/CAB.MIN/MINES/Olj2016 of May 10, 2016, authorizing its holder, for the period between August 29, 2011 and August 28, 2018, to conduct, in the Perimeter concerned, research work relating to mineral substances following: Silver, Tin, Coltan, Gold and Wolframite.

“Permiti de Hecherche n° 12450)} means permit n° 12450 granted to LA CONGOLAISE D'EXPLCITATION MINIERE on August 29, 2011, bearing certificate n° CAMI/CRj6434/11 issued on October 24, 2011, extended by decree n° 0217 /CAB.MIN/MINES/01/2016 of May 10, 2016, authorizing its holder, for the period between August 29, 2011 and August 28, 2018, to conduct, in the Perimeter concerned, research work relating to the following mineral substances: Silver, Hain, Coltan, Gold, and Wolframite.

“Research Permit No. 12454)] means permit No. 12454 granted to LA CONGOLAISE D'EXPLOITATIOI\J MINIERE on August 29, 2011
, extended by decree no. 0219/CAB.MIN/MINES/Ol/2016 of May 10, 2016, authorizing its holder, for the period between August 29, 2011 and August 28, 2018, to drive, within the Perimeter concerned . research work on the following mineral substances: Coltan, lithium and Wolframite.

"Research Permit No. 13359" means permit No. 13359 granted to LA, CONGOLESE D'EXPLOI "ATIOI\I MINIERE on December 29, 2016, bearing certificate No. CAMI/CR/7114j16 issued on December 29, 2016, authorizing its holder, for the period between December 28, 2016 and December 27, 2021, to conduct, in the Perimeter concerned, research work relating to the following mineral substances: Coltan, Lithium and Wolframite.
“PLe )} has the meaning given to it in Article 16.3;
“First!” ~chéélnce )) has the meaning given to it in Article 5.2(a){JJi);
“President” means the president of DATHCOM Mining SAS.
“Completion of the Transfer”) has the meaning given to it in Article 2Bis.l;
“TermShel!t Obligatory)} means the legally binding termsheet concluded between COMINIERE SA, DATHOMIR SARL E!t AVZ on November 23, 2016 in order to formalize the Acquisition;
“Vlce-Chalrman” means 1 vice-president of the Management Board of DATHCOM Mining SAS;


As can be seen the leases 12436, 12449, 12450 and 12454 had run out as per August 28, 2018.
I don't believe AVZ renewed the leases.

The question regarding leases 12436, 12449, 12450 and 12454 was asked during one of the Road Shows.
I can't remember the exact answer, I was more focussed on 13359 (that is especially RD and CdL, because those areas were drilled and as it stand, we know that is where the value is and Zijin thought they just could steal, on the basis of fuck AVZ).
 
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