AVZ Discussion 2022

cruiser51

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With 35% taxes, 10% stake in Dathcom and 8% stake in $AVZ (in the event of the sale of 15% of Cominière) as well as a little over 10% in the value chain, the State holds approximately 60% of the project's net revenues over the long term. Without any investment!
 
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With 35% taxes, 10% stake in Dathcom and 8% stake in $AVZ (in the event of the sale of 15% of Cominière) as well as a little over 10% in the value chain, the State holds approximately 60% of the project's net revenues over the long term. Without any investment!

Or…
Maybe…
The Minister of Mines could just follow the law (the Mining Code)
CAMI could just follow the law and issue the surface rights fee
Cominier could just follow the letter of the Dathcom JV agreement and facilitate final sale of % so we can all go mining.

It’s just a thought. Silly me and my crazy out-of-the-box thinking…

#Fuckzijin
 
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Xerof

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Financial Patrol in companies and public establishments. No instructions from the President of the Republic to end the control. The
@IgfRdc will relentlessly pursue the monitoring of all public entities before and after the 2023 elections.


More push-back around the various interpretations of what's ACTUALLY going on.

ffs

but this comment is directly from Jesus......
 
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Uglybob

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Sounds like Felix knows there's dirt on him and is trying to block it. I'm doubting more and more that he'll win the election with the way things are going.
 
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Tursty

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With 35% taxes, 10% stake in Dathcom and 8% stake in $AVZ (in the event of the sale of 15% of Cominière) as well as a little over 10% in the value chain, the State holds approximately 60% of the project's net revenues over the long term. Without any investment!

Do I need to go back to school and learn Math again, or is this part the craziest bit of this whole thing. Cominiere is trying to say AVZ want it all.

How is this not a good deal for the DRC, when they have invested NOTHING, and walk away with ~45% of the profit?

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wombat74

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"Are we getting closer or is it another fucking mirage? "

Reckon it's just a mirage . Everything has changed but nothing has changed . Stall tactics still in play .
 
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Doc

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"Are we getting closer or is it another fucking mirage? "

Reckon it's just a mirage . Everything has changed but nothing has changed . Stall tactics still in play .

It’s all an illusion

Magic Stay Home GIF by America's Funniest Home Videos
 
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wombat74

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Said it once and will say it again - Strand the asset, leave it to the courts. The time for negotiation was 12 months ago.

(Sorry for all holders doing it tough, myself included)
Is that in the best interest of the SH ? I think not .
 
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Do I need to go back to school and learn Math again, or is this part the craziest bit of this whole thing. Cominiere is trying to say AVZ want it all.

How is this not a good deal for the DRC, when they have invested NOTHING, and walk away with ~45% of the profit?

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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the SEZ have some tax free period or something? Like 2 years? I don't know specifics, please enlighten me, but perhaps they're annoyed about that as tax revenues is clearly a large chunk
 
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the SEZ have some tax free period or something? Like 2 years? I don't know specifics, please enlighten me, but perhaps they're annoyed about that as tax revenues is clearly a large chunk
And different tax laws, not just standard 35% or whatever
 

Azzler

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And different tax laws, not just standard 35% or whatever
It was a 2 year tax free period to compensate for 10% free carried.
However everything is probably renegotiated, that may or may not still stand.
Yes I didn't realise tax was 35%, seems excessive, not sure if it's right.
 
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Skar

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Is that in the best interest of the SH ? I think not .
Without having access to the facts and with clarity of hindsight, I still question how we have gone from a well-funded position and imminent ML to almost out of capital and further (decree cancelled, multiple legal challenges, etc) from an ML. Maybe management are negotiating and don't want to show their hand... but as an investor, all that capital we burnt through drilling and paying BOD for an inactive asset, has seemingly seriously weakened our position and opened me up to significant dilution.

We have to show our hand before we run out of capital (which was the Chinese strategy all along). I just hope I am wrong and NF pulls a rabbit out of a hat.... otherwise I am destined to a 9-5 for another 20 years or so.... unless there is another 25 bagger like AVZ in the mix :ROFLMAO:.
 
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Tursty

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I'm betting the mining industry tax system is pretty complicated, so that was by no means meant as an indication of what tax rates to expect. It was simply quoting the figures used in the quoted post.

The point being that the benifit as a whole to the DRC by far exceeds the shareholding they retain in Dathcom. And this position some people are presenting on X that AVZ are trying to take everything for them selves is just simply wrong. The deal that is documented is actually a very fair deal for both the DRC (the owners of the lithium in the ground), and the investors that bring the capital needed to dig it out, process it and sell it.

IMO bla bla
 
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CHB

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Is that in the best interest of the SH ? I think not .
It depends on what the options are of course.

Is negotiating and having to deal with corruption and the possibility of being fucked over again down the track in the interests of shareholders?
 
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wombat74

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Without having access to the facts and with clarity of hindsight, I still question how we have gone from a well-funded position and imminent ML to almost out of capital and further (decree cancelled, multiple legal challenges, etc) from an ML. Maybe management are negotiating and don't want to show their hand... but as an investor, all that capital we burnt through drilling and paying BOD for an inactive asset, has seemingly seriously weakened our position and opened me up to significant dilution.

We have to show our hand before we run out of capital (which was the Chinese strategy all along). I just hope I am wrong and NF pulls a rabbit out of a hat.... otherwise I am destined to a 9-5 for another 20 years or so.... unless there is another 25 bagger like AVZ in the mix :ROFLMAO:.
Can you imagine the BoD taking salary over the next 3 to 5 years while we fight it out in the courts? For what ?
 
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wombat74

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It depends on what the options are of course.

Is negotiating and having to deal with corruption and the possibility of being fucked over again down the track in the interests of shareholders?
True . However some may just like access to their money and the ability to decide what they want to do . The damage is done in terms of trust regardless how this plays out . If we are still at a Brick Wall then a negotiated settlement , whether by pay out or collaborative agreement , is the right way forward imo . I don't know anyone who wants their money tied up in this sh1t show for years to come .
 
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wombat74

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Cybelle Kamba Kabasu
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"Before withdrawing the complaint(legal process) make sure you get what is rightfully yours and if not, go all the way but what is true, the DRC has no money to pay the damages".
 
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The President is outraged by the lack of action! WTF
 
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The Fox

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The President is outraged by the lack of action! WTF

So he puts the foxes in charge of the hen house to sort it all out and to report back to him. 😂😂😂 FFS !!!

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