AVZ Discussion 2022

[TLH]

Did we find out why/how the CAMI website was incorrectly updated?
Do we know if the change required authorisation from a government official or is it just games by Cominiere?

 

[Flight996]

The problem for Felix and his officials if their intention is to rat fuck AVZ is Dathcom are the applicant that have completed the DFS. Any new application would need to go through the whole process again under the mining code. Including new drilling for JORC certification. Which will delay the project years and cost them billions in damages.
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Yes, I agree.

However, due process, procedural fairness and the rule of law are foreign notions to those pricks.

Felix and his compliant administration could simply change the status quo, and award the tenement to Rodent Inc with the stroke of a pen. Just like the MoM did in withdrawing the ministerial decree that originally awarded the ML to Dathcom.

And they would simply plagiarise AVZ's exploration data, which is in the public domain in order to arrive at a Chingo JORC.

However, the resultant damages claim may be prohibitive.

Cheers
F

 

[Xerof]

Did we find out why/how the CAMI website was incorrectly updated?
Do we know if the change required authorisation from a government official or is it just games by Cominiere?

 

[Onthefm]

Yes, I agree.

However, due process, procedural fairness and the rule of law are foreign notions to those pricks.

Felix and his compliant administration could simply change the status quo, and award the tenement to Rodent Inc with the stroke of a pen. Just like the MoM did in withdrawing the ministerial decree that originally awarded the ML to Dathcom.

And they would simply plagiarise AVZ's exploration data, which is in the public domain in order to arrive at a Chingo JORC.

However, the resultant damages claim may be prohibitive.

Cheers
F

Why it's not as if they'll pay it. God we can't even get a ml what chance do you think we have of getting 10 bill fuck all and none. imo

 

[Roon]

The problem for Felix and his officials if their intention is to rat fuck AVZ is Dathcom are the applicant that have completed the DFS. Any new application would need to go through the whole process again under the mining code. Including new drilling for JORC certification. Which will delay the project years and cost them billions in damages.
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Although Cominiere is part of Dathcom, if Cominiere is part of a revised license holder would they be able to re-use the data contained in the first version of the DFS (which they hold) along with the various other parts of documentation like drilling results they are a party to in order to re-apply for the license through the various stages? Not sure the legality of that, but I imagine that would be their plan

 

[cruiser51]

Although Cominiere is part of Dathcom, if Cominiere is part of a revised license holder would they be able to re-use the data contained in the first version of the DFS (which they hold) along with the various other parts of documentation like drilling results they are a party to in order to re-apply for the license through the various stages? Not sure the legality of that, but I imagine that would be their plan

If we look at Cominiere's track record, I don't think Cominiere cares about cosmetics.

 

[Flight996]

Why it's not as if they'll pay it. God we can't even get a ml what chance do you think we have of getting 10 bill fuck all and none. imo

Mate, that's a fair question.

My understanding is that the DRC is a member of the International Center for Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID) Convention, and a Contracting State to the 1958 New York Convention on the Recognition and Enforcement of Foreign Arbitral Awards (New York Convention).

In addition, ICC brokered agreements or findings are binding on the member states. That includes the DRC.

Adverse judgements against a member state are backed by its offshore property and funds, and can be enforced by courts within the external jurisdiction.

Cheers
F

 

[wombat74]

Did we find out why/how the CAMI website was incorrectly updated?
Do we know if the change required authorisation from a government official or is it just games by Cominiere?

CKK and his mate having a dummy spit . IMO

 

[9cardomaha]

I fucking love the gif, i went into the 2023 sub the other day to check what was going on, laughed real hard cause this summed it right up.

 

[Xerof]

Reading the first few pages of the submission to ICC, I think we have hurt their feelings. Thats about it really, apart from all the lies

Still reading......later

 

[Winenut]

Reading the first few pages of the submission to ICC, I think we have hurt their feelings. Thats about it really, apart from all the lies

Still reading......later

In French or have you converted it?

 

[9cardomaha]

In French or have you converted it?

I gots the EN version as detailed on the first page of the frog version. let me pm you

 

[Xerof]

Oui, converti, mais je ne sais pas comment enregistrer la traduction

 

[Winenut]

I gots the EN version as detailed on the first page of the frog version. let me pm you

Thank you

 

[Winenut]

Oui, converti, mais je ne sais pas comment enregistrer la traduction

Oui!
Tres bien

 

[Xerof]

I gots the EN version as detailed on the first page of the frog version. let me pm you

OMG, me too please

 

[BEISHA]

Regarding the joint case and ICC request that was submitted, peeps who want a gander hit me up on PM. Unfortunately still gonna slightly gatekeep and not just pump and dump it like DG's mum/sister.

Any chance you could pm me with that bit of sugar, would love to have a gander myself, I tried to PM you but got road blocked.

Cheers

 

[Onthefm]

Mate, that's a fair question.

My understanding is that the DRC is a member of the International Center for Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID) Convention, and a Contracting State to the 1958 New York Convention on the Recognition and Enforcement of Foreign Arbitral Awards (New York Convention).

In addition, ICC brokered agreements or findings are binding on the member states. That includes the DRC.

Adverse judgements against a member state are backed by its offshore property and funds, and can be enforced by courts within the external jurisdiction.

Cheers
F

Mate get all that . but by the time all the court cases are over I'll be bloody near dead and then they have to find drc off shore assets. then sell them and by that time I will definitely be dead. Kids will be to old to enjoy it . grand kids will probably be able to pay to stay in a nice retirement village though I suppose. So there's the silver lining. Cheers

 

[ptlas]

I gots the EN version as detailed on the first page of the frog version. let me pm you

Me 2 please

 

[Azzler]

Thanks 9card.
What bollox that is! But it was to be expected hey.

The jist of the ICC request seems to rest on the assumption that the JV is terminated and the mine developement can not proceed, and it's all because of AVZ being evil corrupt wretches who are power hungry, uncooperative thieves!

Classic move really, accuse the others of doing all the dodgy shit you're doing.

However the emergency ICC ruling is that for the moment, the JV is still in effect.

I don't claim to understand a thing about legal processes, but as a layman, I would imagine this request can not be processed until the ICC case regarding the JV status is complete.

Also I can't imagine it going down too well in Kinshasa, that a government department is being funded and teaming up with a foreign business entity together in an international court. Complete conflict of interest, but it's the fkn DRC isn't it...

Fuck me I would kill for a really detailed update from the company.
Rumors of one coming soon right?

It does look like a bit of a desperate move, throwing everything but the kitchen sink at AVZ. Hope that's the way of the matter anyway.