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Der Geist

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Well, well, well..................look who is back :rolleyes:

Whats your take on the current developments of the AVZ saga ?

ICC arbitration round 1 win to AVZ / Cami website........Cominiere 100%

Clear english would be most appreciated.........;)

cheers

I think I get Der Geist of what you're saying there 🤔

Without prejudice.

I made a draft, and will go over it tomorrow— tomorrow is not far away….

Main take away is, AVZ should not have to arbitrate with Cominiere. This is total bullshit.
How can the MoM talk about “harmony” when the IGF is shouting from the rooftops the defrauding of the State.

Someone made MoM write that, surely.

All this points to how weak the Tshisekedi coalition is. And the Chinese are exploiting it! they are owning the ministers THEY are attempting a coup on a so called sovereign state!

Irony is Yibin wanted AVZ to take control of Dathcom, and this is one of the causes of friction— why isn’t Yibin looking after the brown paper bags???

Chinese have been corroding AVZ’s management all along in my view. Even the hydroxide pivot away from EU to in-country (a country not ready) are all attempts to interfere and undermine confidence in AVZ when all AVZ has to do was start a 2mtpa SC6 facility and slowly but carefully ramp it up. Nigel got that idea right. “Walk before run”

So postponing on Zijjn matter at ICC is very suspicious.

If AVZ got a win against Zijin at ICC that just defuses the whole Congolese drive so the cynical question is, from what other avenue will Zijin et al try to undermine from next.
This is why fighting the Congolese when bombs should dropped on the Chinese embassy is what should really be happening.
 
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Flight996

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Yup....


Don't believe a fucking word until its in an official announcement.

Kunts

Regardless of what anyone tells us or what is announced, it's probably just self-serving bullshit anyway. So treat everything with skepticism.

Happy Mothers Day to all the mums here.

Cheers
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Without prejudice.

I made a draft, and will go over it tomorrow— tomorrow is not far away….

Main take away is, AVZ should not have to arbitrate with Cominiere. This is total bullshit.
How can the MoM talk about “harmony” when the IGF is shouting from the rooftops the defrauding of the State.

Someone made MoM write that, surely.

All this points to how weak the Tshisekedi coalition is. And the Chinese are exploiting it! they are owning the ministers THEY are attempting a coup on a so called sovereign state!

Irony is Yibin wanted AVZ to take control of Dathcom, and this is one of the causes of friction— why isn’t Yibin looking after the brown paper bags???

Chinese have been corroding AVZ’s management all along in my view. Even the hydroxide pivot away from EU to in-country (a country not ready) are all attempts to interfere and undermine confidence in AVZ when all AVZ has to do was start a 2mtpa SC6 facility and slowly but carefully ramp it up. Nigel got that idea right. “Walk before run”

So postponing on Zijjn matter at ICC is very suspicious.

If AVZ got a win against Zijin at ICC that just defuses the whole Congolese drive so the cynical question is, from what other avenue will Zijin et al try to undermine from next.
This is why fighting the Congolese when bombs should dropped on the Chinese embassy is what should really be happening.

I like the way you are posting without prejudice. Is this because you are burning (along with all the shorter’s) and AVZ doesn’t have to come out of suspension

And aren’t you supposed to be getting Cong’s noodles ready

Both rhetorical questions actually
 
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Bray

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Still cannot figure out how other nations haven’t called DRC out on their bullshit..

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Australia should not be sitting on sidelines we’ve provided aid and immigration opportunities in the past. Why are our ministers sitting silent while thousands of Australian investors are getting scammed by these dogs?
 
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Australia should not be sitting on sidelines we’ve provided aid and immigration opportunities in the past. Why are our ministers sitting silent while thousands of Australian investors are getting scammed by these dogs?

Our embassy is helping as per previous company announcements.
 
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BEISHA

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Errr, Flexi, pretty sure that's not appropriate regards to the amazing women out there, not to mention it's Mothers day, not wanting to spell it out but........

CLITS.

The YES campaign, a much better option.
 
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Our embassy is helping as per previous company announcements.
Just like our embassies in London and Washington are helping Julian Assange

The Australian government is fucking useless imo

Luckily the gringos are on our side when it comes to Manono

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Der Geist

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Still cannot figure out how other nations haven’t called DRC out on their bullshit..

simon cowell facepalm GIF

Behind the scenes diplomatically there’d be a fair bit going on, but it will mostly not be in public domain unless something very serious. We saw Nikki Haley and US senators barking at KabIla clan late 2018

I do know from Bloomberg investigative journalists that some EU officials have been lobbying for the RCCM to be online.

It is currently offline, AGAIN. Everyone should keep monitoring it to see what changes are being made if any to the Dathcom file.

Is there anyone here savvy on computer programming? Global Witness has a free data crawler program dedicated to retrieving info from the RCCM. This would be very useful for some of us here to use. I’d be keen to learn how to use it. Please reach out if you have the skill set 🙏

ICC wins simplify the optic of who is right and who is wrong; are symbolic confidence markers. Will Tshisekedi et al use them for further reform?
 
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Der Geist

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Just like our embassies in London and Washington are helping Julian Assange

The Australian government is fucking useless imo

Luckily the gringos are on our side when it comes to Manono

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Just shows how public opinion matters.

Perhaps ICC matters. DRC can’t expect financial aid and not follow International law.
 
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BEISHA

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Still cannot figure out how other nations haven’t called DRC out on their bullshit..

simon cowell facepalm GIF
Totally agree, other nations need to wise up big time and apply pressure to DRC govt ASAP to right the wrong, or CHINA will control the lithium narrative , like they have been doing recently , selling cheap lepodolite.
Drc future is on the line, lots of long term holders futures on the line too.
The collective world needs to stand up to the corrupt practices of not only DRC, but the international BULLY that is China !!

Imo
 
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Der Geist

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Australia should not be sitting on sidelines we’ve provided aid and immigration opportunities in the past. Why are our ministers sitting silent while thousands of Australian investors are getting scammed by these dogs?
It’s tens of thousands.
 
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Dijon101

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Just like our embassies in London and Washington are helping Julian Assange

The Australian government is fucking useless imo

Luckily the gringos are on our side when it comes to Manono

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Fair point.

Dick heads are still opening new coal mines in our backyard
 
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