AVZ Discussion 2022

[whales]

Q: Interview NF mentioned once mentioned once decree issued 10 day period before Court could issue the licence. What happened?

A: This was a misunderstanding. As soon as your documentation was in order and issued, this talk of periods was regarding the ministerial decree. Other steps in way of ML – CAMI have held up the invoicing, illegally in our view.

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Other steps in way of ML – CAMI have held up the invoicing, illegally in our view.
Been 7 months and no results.
Is it time to take CAMI especially Mupande to the ICC and expose the corruption?
As it appears even the President is not able to remove DG of CAMI from his illegally held position.
Surely Momentum has enough evidence to go to court again.

 

[Onthefm]

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NF should be held accountable for not understanding such a critical process.
Shenanigans aside, he should know every bloody in and out of the process for getting a permit.

Telling us all he mislead us because he misunderstood the process is absolute horseshit

Dead right

 

[UtterMoron]

Question out there for tax purposes, seeing as how we've been in suspension nigh on forever now, does this count towards the 12 months asset holding required to slash my capital gains tax in half? You know, on the off chance this makes a profit.

 

[Bonsoir]

Question out there for tax purposes, seeing as how we've been in suspension nigh on forever now, does this count towards the 12 months asset holding required to slash my capital gains tax in half? You know, on the off chance this makes a profit.

Yes

 

[UtterMoron]

Yes

Sweet, cheers mate!

 

[Flexi]

Nigel said the KUNT is withholding our the Invoice for the surface rights illegally.
BUT he was sacked 3 years ago as DG and replaced by a female (cant recall her name) and is doing the job illegally and therefore has no authority.
Why not approach the new DG who is meant to have the authority and get this Mine started.
I know it sounds simple but may not be simple

8 months is FURKEN way to long to be be living a life of survival by getting loans from friends just to cover bills and food.

Bad enough loosing 2 years to COVID restrictions (wealthy but cant travel) and now another year is been added (can travel but funds locked up)

Looks like the first thing I will be buying after we commence trading is a motorised (lithium battery wheel chair to get around - that's after I pay my loans.
At least I can still attach my Number plates to something.

This 8 month stalemate is really really realllllllllly starting to SHIT ME. FURKEN, FURKEN FURKEN

 

[Xerof]

Nigel said the KUNT is withholding our the Invoice for the surface rights illegally.
BUT he was sacked 3 years ago as DG and replaced by a female (cant recall her name) and is doing the job illegally and therefore has no authority.
Why not approach the new DG who is meant to have the authority and get this Mine started.
I know it sounds simple but may not be simple

8 months is FURKEN way to long to be be living a life of survival by getting loans from friends just to cover bills and food.

Bad enough loosing 2 years to COVID restrictions (wealthy but cant travel) and now another year is been added (can travel but funds locked up)

Looks like the first thing I will be buying after we commence trading is a motorised (lithium battery wheel chair to get around - that's after I pay my loans.
At least I can still attach my Number plates to something.

This 8 month stalemate is really really realllllllllly starting to SHIT ME. FURKEN, FURKEN FURKEN

Hey, don't blame me. The other guy is a cunt, I'm the Kunt, and have no authority to issue invoices

Kunt

(I think it's all to do with Sama L babe, who I see is out doing the real important stuff - inspecting a badminton court for the Francophone Games set for August - fuckwit)

Kunt again

 

[whales]

Nigel said the KUNT is withholding our the Invoice for the surface rights illegally.
BUT he was sacked 3 years ago as DG and replaced by a female (cant recall her name) and is doing the job illegally and therefore has no authority.
Why not approach the new DG who is meant to have the authority and get this Mine started.
I know it sounds simple but may not be simple

8 months is FURKEN way to long to be be living a life of survival by getting loans from friends just to cover bills and food.

Bad enough loosing 2 years to COVID restrictions (wealthy but cant travel) and now another year is been added (can travel but funds locked up)

Looks like the first thing I will be buying after we commence trading is a motorised (lithium battery wheel chair to get around - that's after I pay my loans.
At least I can still attach my Number plates to something.

This 8 month stalemate is really really realllllllllly starting to SHIT ME. FURKEN, FURKEN FURKEN

DRC: Prime Minister Ilunkamba cancels the decision of the Minister of Mines suspending the DG of Mining Cadastre - Copperbelt Katanga Mining

In addition to more, Willy Kitobo continues to warn that there are mechanisms in place at CAMI to manipulate data from the mining sector of the DRC.

copperbeltkatangamining.com

Since this article
Have had a change in Prime Minister and also a change in the Minister of Mines and the Minister of Mines can suspend the DG of Cami but Mupande remains untouchable??

 

[Flexi]

My sincerest apology KUNT ........ it wont happen again.

 

[TDITD]

Nigel said the KUNT is withholding our the Invoice for the surface rights illegally.
BUT he was sacked 3 years ago as DG and replaced by a female (cant recall her name) and is doing the job illegally and therefore has no authority.
Why not approach the new DG who is meant to have the authority and get this Mine started.
I know it sounds simple but may not be simple

8 months is FURKEN way to long to be be living a life of survival by getting loans from friends just to cover bills and food.

Bad enough loosing 2 years to COVID restrictions (wealthy but cant travel) and now another year is been added (can travel but funds locked up)

Looks like the first thing I will be buying after we commence trading is a motorised (lithium battery wheel chair to get around - that's after I pay my loans.
At least I can still attach my Number plates to something.

This 8 month stalemate is really really realllllllllly starting to SHIT ME. FURKEN, FURKEN FURKEN

True this fuck-nugget has no authority, why not put the cat amongst the pigeons and get Chantal Bashizi involved and calculating fees. Yes she isn't in office but on authority of Antionette and under direction orders from Felix surely this can sneak through while undermining cunt-features?

Two birds one stone, putting a nail into Mupandes long overdue coffin and getting the mythical ML.

https://www.politico.cd/encontinu/2...shizi-pour-prendre-ses-fonctions.html/105849/​

 

[Xerof]

DRC: Prime Minister Ilunkamba cancels the decision of the Minister of Mines suspending the DG of Mining Cadastre - Copperbelt Katanga Mining

In addition to more, Willy Kitobo continues to warn that there are mechanisms in place at CAMI to manipulate data from the mining sector of the DRC.

copperbeltkatangamining.com

Since this article
Have had a change in Prime Minister and also a change in the Minister of Mines and the Minister of Mines can suspend the DG of Cami but Mupande remains untouchable??

Yes, and it's clear from that article that the PM had the power to over-ride the MofM decision. So.....leading on from that, the situation remains the same - perhaps new MofM is still being hamstrung by her PM? And Felix can't sack the PM either

#clusterfuck

 

[TDITD]

Hey, don't blame me. The other guy is a cunt, I'm the Kunt, and have no authority to issue invoices

Kunt

(I think it's all to do with Sama L babe, who I see is out doing the real important stuff - inspecting a badminton court for the Francophone Games set for August - fuckwit)

Kunt again

Uuuuummmmmm Kunt

As you can see below, the DRC take their badminton VERY VERY seriously, of course he is out there imminently checking this is up to the highest of standards to ensure their world class players have the appropriate stage on which to showcase their incredible talents.

https://bwfbadminton.com/rankings/

 

[obe wan]

It's only a misunderstanding because Nigel was talking about the process before the ministerial decree. We can't have a court order to issue the licence anymore because we already legally have the licence that management agreed to.

All that's left to do now is pay the surface rights. But also according to Nigel 'PE13359 should be retained in its entirety – however the northern area may need to come under a separate exploration tenement, even though that’s not the established process'.

The ministerial decree is pretty fucking clear that the northern area is not included. It 'will be renewed under a five-year exploration licence to Dathcom, with discussions regarding the terms of the ongoing joint venture under discussion with the DRC Government' according to AVZ's official announcement.

Good post and pretty much the way I've heard it. The only WTF that pokes it's head out hard, is that apparently AJN also have an application lodged for the northern part; we all know that they (CAMI) as per mining code can't just dissect pieces of original whole tenements which was original awarded under an exploration licence.

The decree was awarded which only contained and provided exploitation rights to Roche Dure ; Carrier was to be renumbered and would become a new exploration tenement under it's own number ; but with newly created tenement numbers, these generally result in new applications...as far as I'm aware AJNs / congo resources application is lodged.

If AVZ was awarded South ( which they basically have ) then our name would be on the Cami website for the southern Zone ( which it is ) ; if AVZ we're being granted North as an exploration licence, then on the Cami website it should have a new number and state AVZ ( which it doesn't) ....

There's also rumour that AVZ agreed to the Southern grant and the Northern area to be numbered and issued as a 5 year exploration ; but in doing that there was some bending in it's meaning by DG Cami, in that new number, new application and it didn't mean that AVZ would just get it automatically I.e. It was basically revoked ; the AJN lodgement of their application would back that up.

AVZ called B/S on this move and the lawyers were in at it again. All AVZ are apparently waiting on is for DG to issue the ML, but still CAMi website shows Carrier as being blank and the AJN application is still lodged.

Surely if that was all sorted out, maybe we’d still be waiting on DG to issue the invoice, but as the area of land under the exploitation zone would be known that would be 5 seconds on a calculator ; but the Cami website should be showing Dathom 13359 adn Dathcom xyz ( north) , but it's still blank and as far as I know AJNs application is still in there ; also no explaination from anywhere on what's happened to TTXs tenement, TTX released anything on the Canadan or German exchanges either.......but all we hear is that we are just waiting on DG to sign an invoice....just feels like there's something a bit more to this

 

[MoneyBags1348]

DRC: Prime Minister Ilunkamba cancels the decision of the Minister of Mines suspending the DG of Mining Cadastre - Copperbelt Katanga Mining

In addition to more, Willy Kitobo continues to warn that there are mechanisms in place at CAMI to manipulate data from the mining sector of the DRC.

copperbeltkatangamining.com

Since this article
Have had a change in Prime Minister and also a change in the Minister of Mines and the Minister of Mines can suspend the DG of Cami but Mupande remains untouchable??

Yes, and it's clear from that article that the PM had the power to over-ride the MofM decision. So.....leading on from that, the situation remains the same - perhaps new MofM is still being hamstrung by her PM? And Felix can't sack the PM either

#clusterfuck

The Corrupt Prime Minister (Lukonde) has all the power. He was elected by the FFC (an alliance of Joseph Kabila’s old party) who have the majority of seats in the National Assembly.

Lukonde got to select the majority of ministers (all from the FFC party) including Kayinda.

Lukonde overrules Antoinette (MoM) so she can’t get rid of Mupande.

In the past Lukonde has overruled other judgements made against Chinese companies including Zigin and CMOC.

Lukonde is the corrupt criminal in all this who protects Kayinda and Mupande

 

[obe wan]

The Corrupt Prime Minister (Lukonde) has all the power. He was elected by the FFC (Joseph Kabila’s old party) who have the majority of seats in the National Assembly.

Lukonde got to select the majority of ministers (from the FFC party) including Kayinda.

Lukonde overrules Antoinette (MoM) so she can’t get rid of Mupande.

In the past Lukonde has overruled other judgements made against Chinese companies including Zigin and CMOC.

Lukonde is the corrupt criminal in all this who protects Kayinda and Mupande

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yep, 100% he's the source issue

 

[Xerof]

Good post and pretty much the way I've heard it. The only WTF that pokes it's head out hard, is that apparently AJN also have an application lodged for the northern part; we all know that they (CAMI) as per mining code can't just dissect pieces of original whole tenements which was original awarded under an exploration licence.

The decree was awarded which only contained and provided exploitation rights to Roche Dure ; Carrier was to be renumbered and would become a new exploration tenement under it's own number ; but with newly created tenement numbers, these generally result in new applications...as far as I'm aware AJNs / congo resources application is lodged.

If AVZ was awarded South ( which they basically have ) then our name would be on the Cami website for the southern Zone ( which it is ) ; if AVZ we're being granted North as an exploration licence, then on the Cami website it should have a new number and state AVZ ( which it doesn't) ....

There's also rumour that AVZ agreed to the Southern grant and the Northern area to be numbered and issued as a 5 year exploration ; but in doing that there was some bending in it's meaning by DG Cami, in that new number, new application and it didn't mean that AVZ would just get it automatically I.e. It was basically revoked ; the AJN lodgement of their application would back that up.

AVZ called B/S on this move and the lawyers were in at it again. All AVZ are apparently waiting on is for DG to issue the ML, but still CAMi website shows Carrier as being blank and the AJN application is still lodged.

Surely if that was all sorted out, maybe we’d still be waiting on DG to issue the invoice, but as the area of land under the exploitation zone would be known that would be 5 seconds on a calculator ; but the Cami website should be showing Dathom 13359 adn Dathcom xyz ( north) , but it's still blank and as far as I know AJNs application is still in there ; also no explaination from anywhere on what's happened to TTXs tenement, TTX released anything on the Canadan or German exchanges either.......but all we hear is that we are just waiting on DG to sign an invoice....just feels like there's something a bit more to this

The last I saw was in recent AJN announcement where they have acknowledged the North application is now 'disputed'.

So I guess our legals are working this through the channels

Has anyone else noticed that the flow of crappola from the DRC fake news department has dried right up? Is that a sign of progress? straws and clutching come to mind, and I am probably tempting fate, but I find the ceasefire interesting

Kunt

 

[Bray]

They seem to run out of bullshit not long after each AVZ ann then spend the next month preparing the next load of bullshit for AVZs next announcement. Reoccurring cycle

 

[obe wan]

The last I saw was in recent AJN announcement where they have acknowledged the North application is now 'disputed'.

So I guess our legals are working this through the channels

Has anyone else noticed that the flow of crappola from the DRC fake news department has dried right up? Is that a sign of progress? straws and clutching come to mind, and I am probably tempting fate, but I find the ceasefire interesting

Kunt

agree, gone a bit subdued on that front. TTX tenements vanished and AJN also fucking off down the road for 75% Acquistion into MEKs tenement...even though AJN have hardly a pot to piss in cash wise.

Anyone hear anything on the TTX tenement ? they haven't released anything to the market on that front which would be odd if they did actually lose it

 

[Roller62]

True this fuck-nugget has no authority, why not put the cat amongst the pigeons and get Chantal Bashizi involved and calculating fees. Yes she isn't in office but on authority of Antionette and under direction orders from Felix surely this can sneak through while undermining cunt-features?

Two birds one stone, putting a nail into Mupandes long overdue coffin and getting the mythical ML.

https://www.politico.cd/encontinu/2...shizi-pour-prendre-ses-fonctions.html/105849/​

I wouldn't trust any article that came out of Politico - they are one of the detractors.

 

[wombat74]

Good post and pretty much the way I've heard it. The only WTF that pokes it's head out hard, is that apparently AJN also have an application lodged for the northern part; we all know that they (CAMI) as per mining code can't just dissect pieces of original whole tenements which was original awarded under an exploration licence.

The decree was awarded which only contained and provided exploitation rights to Roche Dure ; Carrier was to be renumbered and would become a new exploration tenement under it's own number ; but with newly created tenement numbers, these generally result in new applications...as far as I'm aware AJNs / congo resources application is lodged.

If AVZ was awarded South ( which they basically have ) then our name would be on the Cami website for the southern Zone ( which it is ) ; if AVZ we're being granted North as an exploration licence, then on the Cami website it should have a new number and state AVZ ( which it doesn't) ....

There's also rumour that AVZ agreed to the Southern grant and the Northern area to be numbered and issued as a 5 year exploration ; but in doing that there was some bending in it's meaning by DG Cami, in that new number, new application and it didn't mean that AVZ would just get it automatically I.e. It was basically revoked ; the AJN lodgement of their application would back that up.

AVZ called B/S on this move and the lawyers were in at it again. All AVZ are apparently waiting on is for DG to issue the ML, but still CAMi website shows Carrier as being blank and the AJN application is still lodged.

Surely if that was all sorted out, maybe we’d still be waiting on DG to issue the invoice, but as the area of land under the exploitation zone would be known that would be 5 seconds on a calculator ; but the Cami website should be showing Dathom 13359 adn Dathcom xyz ( north) , but it's still blank and as far as I know AJNs application is still in there ; also no explaination from anywhere on what's happened to TTXs tenement, TTX released anything on the Canadan or German exchanges either.......but all we hear is that we are just waiting on DG to sign an invoice....just feels like there's something a bit more to this

Mate so is the ML available to us for Roche Dure if we accept ?