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cruiser51

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He really is trying really hard to get people on board with less than fair value but subtly. Really have to question his motives here. Expectation reframing to a lower value - “Presenting information in a way that makes lower value seem acceptable or even beneficial.”
Everybody's circumstances are different, who knows, maybe he runs an expensive harem and the troops are becoming noisy and are demanding extras.

I am not going to question why he needs money now, but I definitely do not wish to play his game, I want my investment to be maximised.

As the Danes say fuck dig.

And fuck Zijin.

I know he reads this, he might as well know he better stops playing shane games.
That is another fukhead who wants 20,000 shareholders do their dirty work.
 
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cruiser51

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Jens is on public record stating he holds 8 million shares, and he’s also previously mentioned selling part of his holding to cover his original outlay.

So no matter what happens from here — whether the offer is $0.50 or $5 — he doesn’t lose a cent. He’s likely walking away with millions either way. It’s not a criticism, but it does explain why he’s more relaxed about a lower return than those who came in later and still have serious capital at risk. For them, it’s not about how many millions they’re making — it’s about whether they even get out whole.
I am in a similar boat mate (not with 16 million shares), it is called de-risking.
It is what I do when I invest in junior companies. Make sure your remaining parcel is freehold and sit on a profit.
It doesn't mean I have to give the remaining parcel to the next cheapskate.
 
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Hemicuda

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I am in a similar boat mate (not with 16 million shares), it is called de-risking.
It is what I do when I invest in junior companies. Make sure your remaining parcel is freehold and sit on a profit.
It doesn't mean I have to give the remaining parcel to the next cheapskate.
No matter how many shares you hold, this tier 1asset should never been given away for pittance.
 
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Make it stop ffs! Why does the option have to say (even if under fair value) ??
I don't think anyone is completely deadset against being willing to take a buyout below fair value. Heck I'm even willing to go so far as say fk it if it sorts things out well git to them for half price.

Now let's see, 'fair value' @~$24/share ...
With a 50% discount...
$12 / share.
 
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BEISHA

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ole pete looks like he has had a bit of ELON.....;)

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BEISHA

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Make it stop ffs! Why does the option have to say (even if under fair value) ??
looks like everyone wants the cash and GTFO.......dont blame them.....i fit into that category but wont accept less than " fair value " !

As others have posted Manono is a project that has a 50+yr LOM , money making machine, the ultimate lithium package that cannot be matced for sheer grade & scale, lithium spot is shit, but it wont remain like that for too much longer, therefore a tight arse offer wont cut it no matter what.
 
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There is nobody who tells you to contribute to jen's silly games, just fuck him.
U f..k him if U want :oops: I do not want 2 f... him, I jst want him to shut the f... up, that's all.
 
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LOCKY82

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@Spikerama maybe kobold/DRC need a suspension deadline countdown clock?? Just to remind them
 
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Goat

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the poll has been pulled now. he's reading these posts :ninja:
 
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Panther22

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I think we are all going to be disappointed unless someone other than Kobold comes into the picture.
 
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Bonsoir

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I think we are all going to be disappointed unless someone other than Kobold comes into the picture.
On the contrary, it will be Kobold who will be disappointed when and if their poor offer is rejected and we re-ignite the Arbitration proceedings.
 
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LOCKY82

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I think we are all going to be disappointed unless someone other than Kobold comes into the picture.

I'd say you're great craic at parties panther!! 😅
 
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AVZ Minerals has paused a legal action over a Congo mining project as the US seeks to buy its stake and rival China’s interests in the region

First I have heard about US buying China's stake

Article by 'South China Post'.. they may have biased opinion on China's 'Interests' in the region...
 
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Article by 'South China Post'.. they may have biased opinion on China's 'Interests' in the region...
Here's the full article: http://archive.today/hial3


Legal action over huge lithium project in DR Congo on hold as US battles China’s dominance​

AVZ Minerals has paused a legal action over a Congo mining project as the US seeks to buy its stake and rival China’s interests in the region​

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Arbitration over the Manono lithium-tin project in DR Congo has been suspended as a billionaire-backed start-up negotiates buying out its stake. Photo: AVZ Minerals

Jevans Nyabiage
Published: 12:00pm, 1 Jun 2025
Perth-based AVZ Minerals has suspended its arbitration case against the Democratic Republic of Congo until later this month, following US encouragement to resolve the dispute over the massive Manono lithium project.
The suspension, announced last week, comes as the US backs start-up KoBold Metals – funded by tech billionaires including Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos – to acquire AVZ’s stake in Manono.

If successful, KoBold will pledge US$1 billion (7.2 billion yuan) to develop the project, countering China’s Zijin Mining, which controls the northern section after Congo revoked AVZ’s rights in 2023. However, KoBold is a relatively small entity compared to CMOC Group, CNMC, and other Chinese mining companies in the African country.

AVZ said in a statement last week that “the United States Government has encouraged the parties to take whatever steps are necessary to allow for a climate conducive to discussions leading to a meaningful settlement between the DRC and AVZ”.
The move signals Washington’s growing efforts to secure critical minerals in Congo, directly challenging China’s dominance in the country over control of critical minerals such as lithium and copper, vital for the global green energy transition.
Congo is advancing negotiations on a proposed “minerals-for-security” deal with the US, which has offered to help broker peace between Congo and Rwanda to stabilise the mineral-rich eastern region.
The mining site of the Chinese mining company Zijin Mining in Kolwezi, southern Democratic Republic of Congo. China has long held mining interests in the country. Photo: Xinhua

The mining site of the Chinese mining company Zijin Mining in Kolwezi, southern Democratic Republic of Congo. China has long held mining interests in the country. Photo: Xinhua

That marked a significant shift from the US policy on minerals in Congo. Until recently, the US showed little interest in Congo’s minerals, which American companies perceived as “risky, corrupt, and opaque” for investment.
By contrast, China has, in less than two decades, steadily ramped up investments, even acquiring interests previously owned by American companies, to become the largest investor in Congo’s mining sector.

Chinese infrastructure investment commitments in Congo were valued at US$7 billion last year, making China the largest investor in the country.
A report by the Atlantic Council last week said China, the US and the European Union were “engaged in a technological race spurring competition for access to these critical minerals”, and at the centre was Congo, which was being courted by these powers like never before.
Kai Xue, a Beijing-based China-Africa mining lawyer, views the potential minerals deal for security between Congo and the US positively, arguing that President Trump’s engagement signals genuine interest.

“Republicans are especially prone to ask, ‘Who cares what happens in the Congo?’” Xue noted. He recalled that in 2012, strong international pressure from donor countries pushed Rwanda and M23 rebels out of Goma within 10 days, but stressed that “that kind of pressure is absent in 2025”.


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He said that while lithium was strategically important, Congo’s greatest economic potential was in copper, particularly for the green transition. The country is the world’s second-largest copper producer.

Xue said copper output could “triple again”, potentially making Congo the world’s largest copper producer by 2040 and enabling it to achieve middle-income status based on copper alone.

He said that if a US company secured lithium interests, prompting the US to promote regional stability and thus further copper mining growth, this scenario would benefit all stakeholders: Congo, Chinese mining companies and the global green energy transition.
Chris Berry, head of US-based commodities advisory firm House Mountain Partners, affirmed the Trump administration’s rationale for wanting a presence in Africa but cautioned whether the mineral-for-security deal could make progress.

“What or who defines ‘security’? Are the economics of a deposit irrelevant, meaning if the mining does not make economic sense, are the security guarantees still enforceable?” he asked.
Berry went on to state that, “given the plethora of critical mineral deposits in more reliable geopolitical jurisdictions, it is somewhat surprising that KoBold has decided to focus on the DRC as opposed to elsewhere”.
“I will be curious to see what the terms of these deals are when the ink is dry on the contracts. I don’t think the dust has settled here yet,” he added.
 
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AVZ Minerals has paused a legal action over a Congo mining project as the US seeks to buy its stake and rival China’s interests in the region

First I have heard about US buying China's stake
I think you might be misreading the sentence.

It's not saying "and buy China's interests", it's saying "and become a rival to China's interests".
 
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I think you might be misreading the sentence.

It's not saying "and buy China's interests", it's saying "and become a rival to China's interests".
Well the USA cant buy out because the Chinese stole it , China will not control the market for long and they are shitting their pants .
 
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