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Is that the same Jen’s that valued AVZ at $28 some 4 years ago?

I don’t think that’s quite right — but Jens is on public record saying he holds 8 million shares.

He definitely advised people not to accept lowball off-market offers, including those from Fat Tail. Back then, it was all about the strength of the ICSID/ICC cases and the promise of much greater value if we held firm.

But in hindsight, you’ve got to ask: was that advice genuinely about protecting fellow shareholders — or just frustration that he couldn’t access those offers himself?

What I find harder to rationalise is him now lecturing others to stay quiet on social media — when he’s been one of the loudest voices for years. And his ongoing decision to get into public scraps with that Shane nutter? Honestly, it’s not a great look.
 
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BRICK

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Can you millennials please give it a rest
 
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Jens been getting his knickers in a knot over Share holder price expectations . Even 5cents above ATH has him in a tither. Why ?

In priority order

1) Jens wants his money NOW. He bought in low. Accepting a lowball offer makes it easier and quicker to get the deal done, and he gets his money quicker, despite fucking over others who bought in at higher levels.

2) Trying to recant earlier expectations he set regarding price, to reduce possible liability from previously mentioned fucked over SHs

3) He just thinks he's more connected and smarter than others. I really can't stand the superior attitude, insulting and patronising against other SHs by people who weren't smart enough to avoid ending up in the same situation.

Jens isn't as connected as he thinks he is. He's made some big claims over the years.
He's frequently wrong with any information and predictions.
He's got millions of shares in a delisted company, same as the rest of us.

Yet he takes it upon himself to give instructions regarding what people should say on social media, what they think their share should be worth, and insults their abilities to value companies when he's trying to influence a quicker exit.

I haven't been impressed or taking much notice of him, TBH.

Meh.
 
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He has previously said he is trying to temper SH expectations to realistic numbers, my thing is why not let people decide themselves what they believe fair value, top 20 are the ones with most power anyway, the only other reason I can imagine is some people don't want the bod to feel pressured and potentially miss out on doing a deal, which I can't see happening, bod know what they're doing and have been through the shit, they'll be wanting best price they can get. Don't get having a go at people's price expectations
I wouldn’t be listening to Jen’s - self motivated, potentially desperate for cash asap or I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a kobold incentive in place given his supposed influence over shareholders
 
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In priority order

1) Jens wants his money NOW. He bought in low. Accepting a lowball offer makes it easier and quicker to get the deal done, and he gets his money quicker

And fiddy cents goes a lot further in Thailand than it does in Perth
 
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And fiddy cents goes a lot further in Thailand than it does in Perth

Mate I was traveling there during the GFC when the little Aussie battler was getting 33 ThBt per $AU at Vasu, and doing better than the $US.

I was a king...and then I wasn't.
 
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BRICK

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Hey @zeeb0t has TSE been hacked?

Is our account information secure?
 
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Is that the same Jen’s that valued AVZ at $28 some 4 years ago?

As we say in Australia, what a fucking wanker!!
Why some say, hmmm, always look for possible agendas, there are a few.................who might owe who a favour, is always a good place to start, why is it he almost appears to be siding with the views/wishes of many trolls here, and also on the other bat channel. I would assume (rightly or wrongly) that if he knows its a poor outcome, then yeah, he might be trying to help/soften/break the news as already sug, pos to assist a mate out ...... if he didn't know, I would have thought a smart guy, who seems to tell everybody else to zip it, often, would take his own advice, and s... ... f... .p

Anyway, if the offer does turn out to be crap, or low as, 'pop, bowl, sticky, and co' seem convinced it will be, then those that thought he might have sat on the inside of the tp, might be on the money. Which SHs like toilet, said or were tipped off and sold some of their holdings .........
Toilets view of NF is clear, however Jen is a fan of NF so what agenda would he have .............

Genuine holders have stated clearly why sub 2usd is an insult, DHs (with hidden agendas) rabbit on about... we must be realistic because lith prices and lith miners are down, really, wow, gosh, so sorry to tell you this you f...... f...s but no one cares, the massive deposit is being bought because it is GIGANTIC, and it is a once only in a lifetime opportunity, which will never become available again, so who gives a rats .... about lith prices now.... "NO f...... o.." they are buying a lith mine that will produce for 49+ years imo.

So, if it's a s... deal we all know what will hit the fan '....'
ps we know carrot bought for 1c .... anyone else here buy some for 1c?
pps remember it was NF that said/nominated 10bil USD ;)
NO EXCUSES 4 a low ball will be good enough, hey that's just my op.
 
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Why some say, hmmm, always look for possible agendas, there are a few.................who might owe who a favour, is always a good place to start, why is it he almost appears to be siding with the views/wishes of many trolls here, and also on the other bat channel. I would assume (rightly or wrongly) that if he knows its poor outcome, then yeah, he might be trying to help/soften/break the news as already sug, pos to assist a mate out ...... if he didn't know, I would have thought a smart guy, who seems to tell everybody else to zip it, often, would take his own advice, and s... ... f... .p

Anyway, if the offer does turn out to be crap, or low as, 'pop, bowl, sticky, and co' seem convinced it will be, then those that thought he might have sat on the inside of the tp, might be on the money. Which SHs like toilet, said or were tipped off and sold some of their holdings .........
Toilets view of NF is clear, however Jen is a fan of NF so what agenda would he have .............

Genuine holders have stated clearly why sub 2usd is an insult, DHs (with a hidden agendas) rabbit on about... we must be realistic because lith prices and lith miners are down, really, wow, gosh, so sorry to tell you this you f......f.... but no one cares, the massive deposit is being bought because is GIGANTIC, and it is a once only in a lifetime opportunity, which will never become available again, so who gives a rats .... about lith prices now.... "NO f...... o.." they are buying a lith mine that will produce for 49+ years imo.

So, if it's a s... deal we all know what will hit the fan.....
ps we know carrot bought for 1c .... anyone else here buy some for 1c?
pps remember it was NF that said/nominated 10bil USD ;)
NO EXCUSES 4 a low ball will be good enough, hey that's just my op.
Likely Jens has a heads up and all this chat on X about legal fall out has got under his Goat .
 
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Likely Jens has a heads up and all this chat on X about legal fall out has got under his Goat .
Jen’s will be looking after Jen’s, it’s as simple as that.
He’s not the first nor the last to do so.
 
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Make it stop ffs! Why does the option have to say (even if under fair value) ??
 

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Make it stop ffs! Why does the option have to say (even if under fair value) ??
There is nobody who tells you to contribute to jen's silly games, just fuck him.
 
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So what's everyone gonna do if we get a shit pay out?
 
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Make it stop ffs! Why does the option have to say (even if under fair value) ??
He really is trying really hard to get people on board with less than fair value but subtly. Really have to question his motives here. Expectation reframing to a lower value - “Presenting information in a way that makes lower value seem acceptable or even beneficial.”
 
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There is nobody who tells you to contribute to jen's silly games, just fuck him.

Not being told to do anything mate!
 
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