AVZ Discussion 2022
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MoneyBags1348
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I used to teach a bit of law Obe, but only at TAFE level here in Aus and certainly not a level where I have any sort of expertise or qualifications, but I know even simple things like negligence in business and contract law are hard to prosecute against any firm. What I think wouldn’t be too hard is if all us shareholders got together and went through all AVZ’s ASX announcements and all the boatman type articles and showed the discrepancies in them are tried to draw attention to their sources (which are probably Zigin and Cominiere). Our lawyer’s probably have enough to do and there are more of us and many hands make the job easier. Sometimes shareholders think there is nothing they can do, but that’s wrong, we as shareholders should band together in what ever way we can and even though we don’t get paid, it’s our money involved and if we were actually concerned about our money we would be doing more than just making comments here. We should use this forum to try and organise our own methods to help…. Little ideas like putting the discrepancies together and when that’s done, everyone can email them off to whoever…. All financial and other media institutions, government officials (even throw in their the French Justice Minister seeing how the arbitration is in France, and remind him of our new commitment to our relationship and compensation to the submarine building company following our last govt’s balls up). Shareholders thinking there’s nothing they can do is only copping out, we can all do something. I don’t do twitter so I don’t know about The Geist (or whoever) but his scathing review of financial reviews Tom was second to none if if that sort of research and reporting could be contributed all the better to help our lawyers. Even little discrepancies like yesterday’s article saying Cominiere just learned of the CATH deal, when previously it was reported that they waited until after the CATH deal to sell Zigin their equity and before that saying AVZ tried to block them selling it shows discrepancies. If shareholders got organised instead of panicking, posting irrelevant comments and jokes (to ease the stress) and pulled together in an organised way it would make a difference, simply by cause and effect. I’m actually hoping you might get the ball rolling because I know you have your finger on the pulse!!
Bin59
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Personally I’d rather see a statement released by the AVZ legals in the DRC discrediting the recent false & misleading statements by journalists, Boatman & others (Zijin) as an authoritative and immediate way of addressing the false news.
To assist, concerned shareholders could collate a sample of the misleading articles / content being posted by Boatman, journalists and others and send it to them. If they choose to act, it probably wouldn’t take them very long to put something together (maybe a job for the company Secretary to coordinate).
On the other hand, they may prefer to let the system work and to wait until arbitration is over.
To assist, concerned shareholders could collate a sample of the misleading articles / content being posted by Boatman, journalists and others and send it to them. If they choose to act, it probably wouldn’t take them very long to put something together (maybe a job for the company Secretary to coordinate).
On the other hand, they may prefer to let the system work and to wait until arbitration is over.
Bombarding the AFR with emails to publish a comprehensive, factually correct article would be a good starting point. Obviously not addressed to old mate as that could be a dead end.
MoneyBags1348
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Completely agree Bin, but being proactive is a good thing. You are definitely right, the company secretary should be doing this, and off the top of my head, isn’t Jan one of our two company secretaries now? I know many here have criticised Der Geist (still not sure if I’ve got that right?) but if he put together the information we are talking about, I’d throw in a grand just to get it done, as I said previously, his scathing assessment of the financial review was second to none
MoneyBags1348
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If old mate is der geist, I don’t know, but I’ve never let a closed door get in my way
His posts are very relevant still, it's just we all know the demand that's why we invested in this beast.
The question is, did we back the right horse to take advantage of the demand? Yet to be seen..(unless those up massively have taken all their profits)
Frank's lithium demand posts for me are akin to that ugly girlfriend you dumped for another girl suddenly turning into one of the girls in Jags pics and you're like fk, chose the wrong one.
That's my dreaded feeling anyway, choosing the wrong lithium company
JAG
Top 20
And who the F are you? Let me remind you that Frank is a respected poster here and we surely do not require people like yourself posting.
Get with it or you can consider your account deleted!
DiscoDanNZ
Regular
The day I leave the house and go do a first aid course I miss a troll? FFS
Keep up the good work Frank, you'll save me hours of research a week.
Keep up the good work Frank, you'll save me hours of research a week.
JAG
Top 20
Send the details and I will drop in....be nice for them to see the hat
LOCKY82
Regular
I have emailed avz with my concerns and brought up the fact that patience is wearing thin while we're bombarded with bs from every direction with no help from mngmt or drc government. Also asked for updated top20 and brought up that their social media presence in this day and age leaves a lot to be desired.
We are the shareholders and our thoughts and concerns count for an awful lot, may I suggest send your own emails in too.
GLTAH
Hemicuda
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yes same,, maybe template here for other to copy and paste,,, and keep bombing them
Glad that others have been pests like myself. I have emailed twice with no reply. Not as if I am being rude asking for an updated T20.
I see no reason to hold this information back, unless there is a development that is potentially sensitive in some way. Hence why I am searching for it.
LOCKY82
Regular
I'm sure others would do a much better job but here's my 2 cents.
Hi there
My name is Mark O'Loughlin and I have invested a significant amount in AVZ but what is happening now and the silence from management is terrifying for me and my family. I understand there is currently a lot going on behind the scenes but any clarity, progress or positive news of any sort should be made available asap! I am on all the investors chat groups and there are definitely shareholders getting itchy feet mostly because we are having to deal with constant down ramping and very negative articles coming out and painting the avz and manono project in a very bad light. We are having to defend ourselves and stay positive yet we hear nothing from the people who actually know what is going on, and no support from the drc either. And what about the status of the top 20 shareholders?? People are becoming quite suspicious as to why it hadn't been updated. I am behind avz management and the project and what it can do for the people but while there is silence from the people in the know the rumors and stories will grow bigger by the day. Maybe the pr team and whoever managing AVZ's social pages could step up their game. Eagerly awaiting your response.
Yours sincerely
Mark O'Loughlin
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