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Some are saying that the "big bag" is in deep shit, lol 🤣🤣🤣


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⚖️ BRUSSELS BLOWS THE WHISTLE ON THE TSHISEKEDI FAMILY'S PLAYTIME (AND IT'S DELICIOUS)

Ah, the irony of history. The Kinshasa regime, which spends its time howling about international conspiracies and sniveling in the skirts of the international community, finds itself today bitten by the hand it has so desperately tried to grasp.
For savvy observers and players in the Congolese reality, this Belgian investigation is a political candy. Here's why, we from the AFC-M23, must watch this spectacle with a sly smile:
1. The myth of the "Rule of Law" in tatters
Félix has hammered our ears with his "rule of law" in reinforced concrete. Now it's cracking—not because of us, but because of the greed of his own clan. It's almost poetic: the champion of the anti-corruption fight sees his own "smala" (wife, brothers, children) treated like common financial delinquents by his "precious Belgian partners."
Belgian justice shows no mercy: it has sniffed out the stench of ill-gotten gains, and it strikes where it hurts. Immunity is for the Boss. For the others, it's the dock of the accused.
2. The fatal mistake: Belgian nationality
What arrogance... They thought the red passport (Belgian) was a shield, a safe-conduct to enjoy Europe. Rookie error. That passport is now their electronic ankle bracelet.
By holding onto their Belgian nationality, they handed the Federal Prosecutor's Office the stick to beat them with. They are answerable in Brussels. They can no longer cry "neocolonialism" when it's their own identity papers that give the judge jurisdiction. It's the hose-holder getting hosed in all its glory.
3. The timing is a delight
While they stir things up in the East trying to demonize us, their home base is crumbling.
Picture the panic at the Palace: every transfer is scrutinized, every trip to Zaventem turns into judicial Russian roulette. They'll have to shell out millions on lawyers instead of lobbying against the AFC-M23.
An enemy distracted by its own judicial survival is an enemy that makes mistakes.
4. The lesson in cynicism
In the end, this investigation validates what we all know: power in Kinshasa isn't a mission, it's a family business. And like any bad business, when you get too greedy and forget to cover your tracks in Europe, you end up getting audited—fiscally or criminally.
🥃 The final word (between us)
Let's let them wallow in their lame excuses. They wanted the internationalization of the conflict? They've got the internationalization of their criminal files.
As they say: "When you dine with the devil, you need a long spoon." Apparently, the Tshisekedi family used one that was too short.
Good show.
 
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I wonder if the USA or China are applying pressure to Belgium to investigate the family
 
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Come to think of it old snake head has been very quiet lately.
 
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⚖️ BRUSSELS BLOWS THE WHISTLE ON THE TSHISEKEDI FAMILY'S PLAYTIME (AND IT'S DELICIOUS)

Ah, the irony of history. The Kinshasa regime, which spends its time howling about international conspiracies and sniveling in the skirts of the international community, finds itself today bitten by the hand it has so desperately tried to grasp.
For savvy observers and players in the Congolese reality, this Belgian investigation is a political candy. Here's why, we from the AFC-M23, must watch this spectacle with a sly smile:
1. The myth of the "Rule of Law" in tatters
Félix has hammered our ears with his "rule of law" in reinforced concrete. Now it's cracking—not because of us, but because of the greed of his own clan. It's almost poetic: the champion of the anti-corruption fight sees his own "smala" (wife, brothers, children) treated like common financial delinquents by his "precious Belgian partners."
Belgian justice shows no mercy: it has sniffed out the stench of ill-gotten gains, and it strikes where it hurts. Immunity is for the Boss. For the others, it's the dock of the accused.
2. The fatal mistake: Belgian nationality
What arrogance... They thought the red passport (Belgian) was a shield, a safe-conduct to enjoy Europe. Rookie error. That passport is now their electronic ankle bracelet.
By holding onto their Belgian nationality, they handed the Federal Prosecutor's Office the stick to beat them with. They are answerable in Brussels. They can no longer cry "neocolonialism" when it's their own identity papers that give the judge jurisdiction. It's the hose-holder getting hosed in all its glory.
3. The timing is a delight
While they stir things up in the East trying to demonize us, their home base is crumbling.
Picture the panic at the Palace: every transfer is scrutinized, every trip to Zaventem turns into judicial Russian roulette. They'll have to shell out millions on lawyers instead of lobbying against the AFC-M23.
An enemy distracted by its own judicial survival is an enemy that makes mistakes.
4. The lesson in cynicism
In the end, this investigation validates what we all know: power in Kinshasa isn't a mission, it's a family business. And like any bad business, when you get too greedy and forget to cover your tracks in Europe, you end up getting audited—fiscally or criminally.
🥃 The final word (between us)
Let's let them wallow in their lame excuses. They wanted the internationalization of the conflict? They've got the internationalization of their criminal files.
As they say: "When you dine with the devil, you need a long spoon." Apparently, the Tshisekedi family used one that was too short.
Good show.
I wonder what all of this might mean for the process, negotiations, ML, peace deals, Kobold etc etc etc

Let alone the political climate in the DRC?

Will it force Fatshi to start doing the right thing??

Who fucking knows.....:rolleyes:
 
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Friday Funny. An oldie but a goodie...

Good old Steve-o was a nice enough looking bloke, good personality, smooth with the ladies, the kind of lad you'd love to go grab brekkie with the next morning. But he had one flaw-- he was missing an eye and he had it replaced with a timber one. It was a nice enough replacement, but he still looked a bit off because of it, and it hurt his style.

One night, Steve-o is out drinking, and he sees a gorgeous woman, but her mouth is on sideways. He thinks to himself, "this is perfect! She's just like me, beautiful except for this one flaw!"

He buys her a VB (like a true gentleman) and starts talking with her. They hit it off, and things go great. As the night starts winding down, he asks, "would you like to come back to my flat?"

She says, "oh, would I!"

He replies, "don't call me Wood Eye, Cunt Face!"
 
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Here is a Friday funny

"AVZ issues announcement in clear, concise form that can be easily understood by shareholders"
 
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Given the levels of corruption being brought to light in Belgium it's clear that some bodies will need to be buried in the back garden. Some advice for the Tshisekedi clan: make sure you plant native plants over the bodies. Then it will be illegal to dig them up. ............. ( my Friday contribution)
 
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Interesting take from the lobby group and adds even more complexity.
 

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I wonder what all of this might mean for the process, negotiations, ML, peace deals, Kobold etc etc etc

Let alone the political climate in the DRC?

Will it force Fatshi to start doing the right thing??

Who fucking knows.....:rolleyes:

Re: Will it force Fatshi to start doing the right thing??

That fat kleptocrat wouldn't recognise the right thing if it crawled up his size XXXL boxers and bit him on his his nut sack. Unrestrained corruption and pleonexia are all that he knows.

Only when European authorities strip the family accounts of stolen billions will they look up from their Salon Blanc de Blancs Le Mesnil served in 18th century Bohemian crystal glassware and say "Will the Chinese give us more money daddy"?

Hopefully, this is the start of holding Felix Tshisekedi and his family of inbred mouth-breathers accountable for systematically looting the DRC's treasury over a decade, and in the process condemning generations of Congolese to relentless and grinding poverty.
 
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Re: Will it force Fatshi to start doing the right thing??

That fat kleptocrat wouldn't recognise the right thing if it crawled up his size XXXL boxers and bit him on his his nut sack. Unrestrained corruption and pleonexia are all that he knows.

Only when European authorities strip the family accounts of stolen billions will they look up from their Salon Blanc de Blancs Le Mesnil served in 18th century Bohemian crystal glassware and say "Will the Chinese give us more money daddy"?

Hopefully, this is the start of holding Felix Tshisekedi and his family of inbred mouth-breathers accountable for systematically looting the DRC's treasury over a decade, and in the process condemning generations of Congolese to relentless and grinding poverty.
He knows a bit about fukking up pizza deliveries and that comes from his big mate in Rwanda.
 
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Ok so no peace signing in Washington today 😞
 

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Manono is bigger than a peace deal . Kobold don't need it and they are a bunch of insipid f--kwits .Zijin don't need it . Neither does Ivanhoe . People need to stop hanging RD future on a peace deal . It's a bunch of bogus BS . An excuse . Manono does not need a peace deal .
 
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Manono is bigger than a peace deal . Kobold don't need it and they are a bunch of insipid f--kwits .Zijin don't need it . Neither does Ivanhoe . People need to stop hanging RD future on a peace deal . It's a bunch of bogus BS . An excuse . Manono does not need a peace deal .
Yeh of course it doesn't need it, but it sure increases an assets value when the country isn't at risk of falling apart. Sovereign risk is why we are in this shit in the first place and no peace makes the risk worse, and thus the value less.
 
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Yeh of course it doesn't need it, but it sure increases an assets value when the country isn't at risk of falling apart. Sovereign risk is why we are in this shit in the first place and no peace makes the risk worse, and thus the value less.
The country is a basket case . Peace deal is a pipe dream . War is in it's 30th year . Didn't matter 3 years ago /2 years ago . Now it matters . AVZ didn't need it 3.5 years ago . Someone forgot to tell us about it at the time . DRC has always been 100% sovereign risk DUH . Felix will never sign a peace deal . In the mean time China is full steam ahead with CDL . No security issues . It'S a bunch of BS .
 
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The country is a basket case . Peace deal is a pipe dream . War is in it's 30th year . Didn't matter 3 years ago /2 years ago . Now it matters . AVZ didn't need it 3.5 years ago . Someone forgot to tell us about it at the time . DRC has always been 100% sovereign risk DUH . Felix will never sign a peace deal . In the mean time China is full steam ahead with CDL . No security issues . It'S a bunch of BS .



It matters when Felix blocks our mining license until he gets what he wants.

Felix cares about two things:

1 - Enriching himself and his family
2 - Maintaining his power


Felix sees projects like Manono as things he and his family are entitled to benefit from. Zijin obtained the North through huge bribes and corrupt payments. Therefore Felix benefitted massively as he is pulling the strings. $70 million and other amounts from Zijin appeared to simply vanish into thin air. A recent article referenced 400 million Euros being transferred through Felix's Family's Belgian bank accounts in a relatively short time frame. Although it is difficult to trace and prove, you can bet that at least a portion of Zijin's payments went to Felix and his family. So this satisfies number 1 above.

Felix wants the USA to get M23 out of the DRC. He appears to be using Manono Roche dure and potentially numerous other projects as an incentive for USA to act. Removing M23 would support point number 2 above. I think that Felix wants USA to take hard action against M23/Rwanda. However, USA seems to be taking a more diplomatic approach.



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Felix seems to keep agreeing to things and then not sticking to his word. Part of the issue in my opinion is that Felix is a cheating, entitled, greedy, dishonest pig. He only wants to take, take, take. They agree a framework where FDLR will be disbanded and M23 retreat, then Felix doesn't hold up his end of the bargain. See above, where he is a cheating, entitled, greedy, dishonest pig. Kagame could be partly to blame here as well, with neither party wanting to act, as we know he denies supporting M23 and only wants to refer to Rwanda's "defensive measures". However, from what we know of Felix and dealing with him, I think it is highly likely that Felix is more to blame than the other side.





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Felix does not care about AVZ investors, he doesn't care about leaving his own people to starve, he cares ONLY about himself. AVZ getting a license and running a legit operation does not benefit Felix. So we keep getting blocked for years and years.

In my opinion, for things to get unblocked while Felix is in power, either someone has to make big payments to Felix or someone has to satisfy Felix with doing enough with reference to allowing him to maintain his power by getting M23/Rwanda to back down. If the USA supported peace process is enough to satisfy Felix that he is getting enough out of the deal, then he may unlock the project and others to the USA.
 

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