AVZ Discussion 2022

[Roon]

That would be wonderful, but KoBold have us over a barrel. The bidding "war" we were hoping for hasn't eventuated. The Chinese rat fuckers went in through the back door and stole the north. The US rat fuckers have come in through the front door, smiling and waving, to steal the south.

Keep hoping for the best, but prepare for the worst.

Not necessarily. NF has mentioned other US interest. That could potentially force Kobold to present a more realistic bid or risk losing out.

 

[Flight996]

That would be wonderful, but KoBold have us over a barrel. The bidding "war" we were hoping for hasn't eventuated. The Chinese rat fuckers went in through the back door and stole the north. The US rat fuckers have come in through the front door, smiling and waving, to steal the south.

Keep hoping for the best, but prepare for the worst.

On 17 July 2025, KoBold Metals and the DRC govt signed an agreement in principle covering a range of things, notably for KoBold to acquire and develop Roche Dure and resolve the outstanding legal disputes. However, low-balling AVZ is unlikely to get KoBold any traction. AVZ retains the option of simply letting the ICC and ICSID arbitrations continue to their conclusions.

Until the DRC govt rescinds or expands the agreement to include other interested parties, a bidding war may not eventuate. However, what may eventuate is an expanded KoBold bid that includes a financier and a big miner to share the financial load and ensure a mine and processing facilities are built and operated within time and budget.

 

[FatCatz]

That would be wonderful, but KoBold have us over a barrel. The bidding "war" we were hoping for hasn't eventuated. The Chinese rat fuckers went in through the back door and stole the north. The US rat fuckers have come in through the front door, smiling and waving, to steal the south.

Keep hoping for the best, but prepare for the worst.

Nigel's interview two weeks ago alludes that others may have provided a more lucrative offer than what KoBold are offering at the moment.

 

[Felix]

Tolate says: As a consequence of the discontinuance, Fat Tail no longer seeks any relief from the court against AVZ, Mr Ferguson and Mr Clarke.

But Michael wants a hand job from you, you fuckwit, and asks why are you now promoting positive stuff about AVZ?

I’m considering full suspension of pay, and no redundancy

 

[Shire]

On 17 July 2025, KoBold Metals and the DRC govt signed an agreement in principle covering a range of things, notably for KoBold to acquire and develop Roche Dure and resolve the outstanding legal disputes. However, low-balling AVZ is unlikely to get KoBold any traction. AVZ retains the option of simply letting the ICC and ICSID arbitrations continue to their conclusions.

Until the DRC govt rescinds or expands the agreement to include other interested parties, a bidding war may not eventuate. However, what may eventuate is an expanded KoBold bid that includes a financier and a big miner to share the financial load and ensure a mine and processing facilities are built and operated within time and budget.

If another US consortium were in the mix, and they made a higher bid which Nige was happy with, I don’t think the US gov would have much trouble requesting the DRC to make similar arrangements as they did for KoBold.

 

[Flight996]

If another US consortium were in the mix, and they made a higher bid which Nige was happy with, I don’t think the US gov would have much trouble requesting the DRC to make similar arrangements as they did for KoBold.

Yes, and as Nigel said, AVZ is talking to other interested parties. Everyone understands the scale, quality and global footprint of this resource. Nothing is finished until the fat lady sings.

Regardless of who is the successful party, all AVZ shareholders (except the MMGA tapeworms) deserve a decent payout.

 

[Hodlandwin69]

If another US consortium were in the mix, and they made a higher bid which Nige was happy with, I don’t think the US gov would have much trouble requesting the DRC to make similar arrangements as they did for KoBold.

Massad Boulos brokered the agreement and probably somewhere in the web of corruption, he probably benefits in someway with Kobold getting the deal.
All IMO

 

[Bin59]

The Africa Down Under. conference is on again soon (3-5 September) - this year the DRC Minister of Mines will not be attending (they were a no show the previous 2 years despite being on the programme) - Penny Wong will be at the opening as well as BHP Explore’s Manager, Sophie Proud who is speaking on Day 1 of the programme (BHP Explore have partnered with Kobold Metals to explore battery metals in Australia and other countries).

Conference Programme - Africa Down Under

www.africadownunderconference.com

 

[Hudnut]

The Africa Down Under. conference is on again soon (3-5 September) - this year the DRC Minister of Mines will not be attending (they were a no show the previous 2 years despite being on the programme) - Penny Wong will be at the opening as well as BHP Explore’s Manager, Sophie Proud who is speaking on Day 1 of the programme (BHP Explore have partnered with Kobold Metals to explore battery metals in Australia and other countries).

Conference Programme - Africa Down Under

www.africadownunderconference.com

Penny Who?

 

[KentCStrait]

Penny Who?

Penny Tolate? seriously Tolate has done more for AVZ shareholders than Wong or any other muppet in our government. So depressing.

 

[Dave Evans]

The Africa Down Under. conference is on again soon (3-5 September) - this year the DRC Minister of Mines will not be attending (they were a no show the previous 2 years despite being on the programme) - Penny Wong will be at the opening as well as BHP Explore’s Manager, Sophie Proud who is speaking on Day 1 of the programme (BHP Explore have partnered with Kobold Metals to explore battery metals in Australia and other countries).

Conference Programme - Africa Down Under

www.africadownunderconference.com

Corruption is still rampant today in the DRC Mining Sector. Go back and read all the information on the first two pages of this thread

DRC - AFRICA BATTERY METALS FORUM

DRC - AFRICA BATTERY METALS FORUM 2023 PROMOTED BY THE VUKA GROUP TO INTERNATIONAL INVESTORS DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO CORRUPTION STILL EXISTS NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE 2017 ASSESSMENT OF CORRUPTION RISKS IN THE AWARDING OF MINING RIGHTS IN THE DRC PDF...

thestockexchange.com.au

And then look who is the speaker at this years 2025 DRC Africa Battery Metals Forum


Africa Battery Metals, DRC
@BatteryDrc

Exciting News! Join us in extending a warm welcome to our speaker– Celestin Kibeya, Director General, Cominière, DRC at the DRC - Africa Battery Metals Forum Register now to secure your spot at this transformative event here: https://eu1.hubs.ly/H0mmzDR0



6:30 PM · Aug 15, 2025
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https://x.com/BatteryDrc/status/1956272158448963792

It’s amazing how the DRC Africa Battery Metals Forum advertises the most corrupt person in the DRC mining sector and this tweet has already had nearly 4000 views

 

[Dave Evans]

Corruption is still rampant today in the DRC Mining Sector. Go back and read all the information on the first two pages of this thread

DRC - AFRICA BATTERY METALS FORUM

DRC - AFRICA BATTERY METALS FORUM 2023 PROMOTED BY THE VUKA GROUP TO INTERNATIONAL INVESTORS DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO CORRUPTION STILL EXISTS NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE 2017 ASSESSMENT OF CORRUPTION RISKS IN THE AWARDING OF MINING RIGHTS IN THE DRC PDF...

thestockexchange.com.au

And then look who is the speaker at this years 2025 DRC Africa Battery Metals Forum


Africa Battery Metals, DRC
@BatteryDrc

Exciting News! Join us in extending a warm welcome to our speaker– Celestin Kibeya, Director General, Cominière, DRC at the DRC - Africa Battery Metals Forum Register now to secure your spot at this transformative event here: https://eu1.hubs.ly/H0mmzDR0



6:30 PM · Aug 15, 2025
3,895 Views

https://x.com/BatteryDrc/status/1956272158448963792

It’s amazing how the DRC Africa Battery Metals Forum advertises the most corrupt person in the DRC mining sector and this tweet has already had nearly 4000 views

Here’s the recording of Kibeya taking Zijin’s bribe

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Here’s the DRC Inspector General of Finance’s report exposing the corruption

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5934d2ae6b8f5beeb5ba23f3/t/638ee2df77e76824d82d6fff/1670308576126/20221130+-+IGF+Report+on+the+Management+of+DRC+Mining+Assets+by+COMINIERE+SA+-+ENG.pdf

Here’s the ICC ordering Cominiere to pay AVZ €39 million in penalties

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5934d2ae6b8f5beeb5ba23f3/t/67d3c05d706c8e3c6453432b/1741930593293/20250314+-+Announcement+-+Response+to+Media+Speculation+and+ICC+Decision+to+Liquidate+Cominiere+Penalty%281300575192.2%29+ENG_FRE.pdf

Here’s the ICSID ordering the DRC to return the PR13359 permit back to AVZ’ and Dathcom

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5934d2ae6b8f5beeb5ba23f3/t/65a8c1e5715dc369047d570d/1705558501784/20240118+ASX+AVZ+Successful+in+ICSID+Interim+Measures.pdf

Here’s photos of Celestin Kibeya
- Greedily eyeing AVZ’s lithium drill cores at Manono
- Speaking about controlling the billions of dollars of foreign invested money in the DRC mining sector
- Celebrating with his mates at Cominiere

Here’s a report on the corruption of Felix Tshisekedi from June this year

High levels of corruption crumbling Tshisekedi regime​

Author: Yousuf Rwaka
2025-06-01

The Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) stands out as one of the most corrupt and poor countries worldwide. President Felix Tshisekedi’s family and inner circle are embezzling national resources while the Congolese suffer from hunger and poor infrastructure in all aspects of life.

Congolese Minister of Justice Constant Mutamba is now one of the targets of the very system he oversees. He is under investigation for embezzlement and public funds mismanagement.

A request for investigation was made by the Attorney General to the National Assembly to launch a judicial investigation on Mutamba, who is accused of embezzling USD 39 million intended for the construction of a prison in Kisangani, Tshopo province.

“The National Assembly has authorized the Attorney General of the Court of Cassation to initiate legal proceedings against the Minister of Justice. He was forced to submit his resignation to Prime Minister Judith Suminwa,” said a source from Kinshasa.

For the minister of justice to be subjected to prosecution, the National Assembly was required to lift his immunity. It is unclear whether Tshisekedi will allow fair legal proceedings against Mutamba’s crimes, as the latter has been the president’s preferred proxy.

Tshisekedi had shielded his special strategic advisor, Vidiye Tshimanga, in September 2022, after leaked videos went viral showing Tshimanga offering unlimited access to DRC’s minerals in exchange for bribes, including shares in the companies and underhand paybacks, for himself and the president.

Former Minister of Finance, Nicolas Kazadi, a close confidant of Tshisekedi, has been linked to a scandal regarding the misappropriation of millions of US dollars.

Since Tshisekedi’s maneuvers to mask corruption scandals tied to his inner circle are not anything new, Kazadi discreetly left DRC in June 2024 for France through arrangements made from the President’s Office.

Kazadi has never been subject to any arrest warrant, and his case has remained dormant.

On May 20, the former Prime Minister who turned opposition leader - Matata Ponyo - was sentenced to 10 years of forced labor after he was convicted by the Constitutional Court of involvement in the embezzlement of approximately USD 245 million in state funds.

Matata’s accomplices, such as former Central Bank Governor Deogratias Mutombo and South African businessman Christo Grobler were sentenced to five years in prison.

Corruption and embezzlement are longstanding issues in the DRC, but Tshisekedi’s regime made the situation worse than ever.

Tshisekedi’s regime is increasingly crumbling over corruption and embezzlement scandals, in addition to the escalating armed conflict in eastern DRC where AFC/M23 rebels control swathes of territory in the Kivus.

The 2024 Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI) ranked DRC 163 out of 180 countries, with a score of 20 out of 100, indicating a high level of perceived public sector corruption. The report perceived DRC as one of the least effective countries in controlling public-sector corruption.

High levels of corruption crumbling Tshisekedi regime​

High levels of corruption crumbling Tshisekedi regime
www.thegreatlakeseye.com

 

[Dave Evans]

Here’s the recording of Kibeya taking Zijin’s bribe

x.com

x.com

Here’s the DRC Inspector General of Finance’s report exposing the corruption

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5934d2ae6b8f5beeb5ba23f3/t/638ee2df77e76824d82d6fff/1670308576126/20221130+-+IGF+Report+on+the+Management+of+DRC+Mining+Assets+by+COMINIERE+SA+-+ENG.pdf

Here’s the ICC ordering Cominiere to pay AVZ €39 million in penalties

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5934d2ae6b8f5beeb5ba23f3/t/67d3c05d706c8e3c6453432b/1741930593293/20250314+-+Announcement+-+Response+to+Media+Speculation+and+ICC+Decision+to+Liquidate+Cominiere+Penalty%281300575192.2%29+ENG_FRE.pdf

Here’s the ICSID ordering the DRC to return the PR13359 permit back to AVZ’ and Dathcom

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5934d2ae6b8f5beeb5ba23f3/t/65a8c1e5715dc369047d570d/1705558501784/20240118+ASX+AVZ+Successful+in+ICSID+Interim+Measures.pdf

Here’s photos of Celestin Kibeya
- Greedily eyeing AVZ’s lithium drill cores at Manono
- Speaking about controlling the billions of dollars of foreign invested money in the DRC mining sector
- Celebrating with his mates at Cominiere

Here’s a report on the corruption of Felix Tshisekedi from June this year

High levels of corruption crumbling Tshisekedi regime​

Author: Yousuf Rwaka
2025-06-01

The Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) stands out as one of the most corrupt and poor countries worldwide. President Felix Tshisekedi’s family and inner circle are embezzling national resources while the Congolese suffer from hunger and poor infrastructure in all aspects of life.

Congolese Minister of Justice Constant Mutamba is now one of the targets of the very system he oversees. He is under investigation for embezzlement and public funds mismanagement.

A request for investigation was made by the Attorney General to the National Assembly to launch a judicial investigation on Mutamba, who is accused of embezzling USD 39 million intended for the construction of a prison in Kisangani, Tshopo province.

“The National Assembly has authorized the Attorney General of the Court of Cassation to initiate legal proceedings against the Minister of Justice. He was forced to submit his resignation to Prime Minister Judith Suminwa,” said a source from Kinshasa.

For the minister of justice to be subjected to prosecution, the National Assembly was required to lift his immunity. It is unclear whether Tshisekedi will allow fair legal proceedings against Mutamba’s crimes, as the latter has been the president’s preferred proxy.

Tshisekedi had shielded his special strategic advisor, Vidiye Tshimanga, in September 2022, after leaked videos went viral showing Tshimanga offering unlimited access to DRC’s minerals in exchange for bribes, including shares in the companies and underhand paybacks, for himself and the president.

Former Minister of Finance, Nicolas Kazadi, a close confidant of Tshisekedi, has been linked to a scandal regarding the misappropriation of millions of US dollars.

Since Tshisekedi’s maneuvers to mask corruption scandals tied to his inner circle are not anything new, Kazadi discreetly left DRC in June 2024 for France through arrangements made from the President’s Office.

Kazadi has never been subject to any arrest warrant, and his case has remained dormant.

On May 20, the former Prime Minister who turned opposition leader - Matata Ponyo - was sentenced to 10 years of forced labor after he was convicted by the Constitutional Court of involvement in the embezzlement of approximately USD 245 million in state funds.

Matata’s accomplices, such as former Central Bank Governor Deogratias Mutombo and South African businessman Christo Grobler were sentenced to five years in prison.

Corruption and embezzlement are longstanding issues in the DRC, but Tshisekedi’s regime made the situation worse than ever.

Tshisekedi’s regime is increasingly crumbling over corruption and embezzlement scandals, in addition to the escalating armed conflict in eastern DRC where AFC/M23 rebels control swathes of territory in the Kivus.

The 2024 Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI) ranked DRC 163 out of 180 countries, with a score of 20 out of 100, indicating a high level of perceived public sector corruption. The report perceived DRC as one of the least effective countries in controlling public-sector corruption.

High levels of corruption crumbling Tshisekedi regime​

High levels of corruption crumbling Tshisekedi regime
www.thegreatlakeseye.com

A few other reports on the Tshisekedi family’s corruption over the last two years by journalists in the DRC

07/08/2023


Victor TESONGO :#RDC Fin de la Prédation.
@TesongoVictor

Aug 7, 2023
138.5K Views

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08/07/2025

KIKI KIENGE
@KiengeKki

URGENT! Congolese defense associations and four former directors of Gécamines have filed a complaint against 9 members of the family of the President of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Félix #Tshisekedi, for the plundering of minerals in the provinces of Haut-Katanga and Lualaba, before the Belgian justice system, targeting nine members of the family of the President of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Félix Tshisekedi, for the looting of mining sites in the provinces of Haut-Katanga and Lualaba.

These 9 members of the Tshisekedi presidential clan (sister-in-law, son, brothers, cousins, and even the country's first lady), presented as "co-authors and accomplices of acts of corruption" during the plundering of mining sites. The complaint has been submitted to Federal Prosecutor Ann Fransen by lawyers Bernard and Brieuc Maingain. The 9 accused are all Belgian citizens and can be prosecuted by the Belgian justice system. "Other complaints may be filed soon in other countries from which other looters of our wealth originate," explains one of the plaintiffs. Kiki #Kienge



Jul 8, 2025
8,940 Views

https://x.com/KiengeKki/status/1942535420182511929

09/07/2025


KIKI KIENGE
@KiengeKki

Among the NGOs that filed a complaint against the 9 members of the Tshisekedi family for the plundering of Katanga's mines is the "Platform for the Promotion and Defense of Economic, Social, and Cultural Rights in the DRC (DESC/DRC)," cited by several sources. In 2024, three Katangese organizations united under the banner "The Children of Katanga" had already raised concerns about the Tshisekedi family's control over Gécamines basins in Kolwezi, notably accusing the president's wife, Denise #Nyakeru Tshisekedi.



7:01 PM · Jul 9, 2025
878 Views

https://x.com/KiengeKki/status/1942871598777749882

 

[Flight996]

Penny Who?

Red Penny, Australia's number one China apologist.

 

[FatCatz]

Remember when we all celebrated Felix getting into power after his “show me corruption and I’ll sort it out” mantra? I think the whole continent is so fixated on getting what they “deserve” at the expense of their own people.

I saw a few clips of promoters of corruption in Africa saying corruption is only bad if they aren’t part of it.

Going forward I will NEVER invest in Africa again. Even if there is the next Manono.

USA will make sure the right hands are greased but it will be a different sort of greasing compared to the Chinese. IMO. Expect a few grants, aid, and developmental contracts to be signed with companies close to whatever corrupt actor has the power to get things signed ed and sealed. Pathetic continent really.

 

[yaseenmeoncebefore]

Get absolutely fucked you fucking idiot

Yeah nti joined 2023 posted fuck all/nothing in over two years and comes out in the first post like a fucking real concerned entitled fucking shareholder with issues about what we’ve been sharing here for fucking years

Get fucked

One of your sleepers most likely

Give us a break you dick

Fuck me you planted sleepers galore in 2022 on these threads….multi nics just sitting there to do what???…..what sort of twisted cunt does that???

Someone with a history and bent for absolute fucking trolling

What a douche

And then you spam and create multiple fakes in recent times to subvert admin rules and delete genuine threads

You fuck

And then go further and create fake accounts and profiles on other platforms pretending to be someone else doxxing people and posting the most vile racist shit anyone could imagine trying to discredit real people

Just get fucked….get fucked

No one else here is doing that shit but you

YOU are the problem here and the fucking root cause of shit and have been banned from other platforms for EXACTLY the same reasons

So stop projecting and continually playing the fucking victim you fucking arse

Pick up your emotional, political, religious and vindictive fucking baggage and JUST FUCK OFF!

Narcissistic cunt

Another post whinging about deleted threads?

I openly said, if you delete mine, i'll delete yours. Then the gimp group deleted mine.

Which part of that is hard to understand? Which part is hard to grasp?

There is nothing anyone can tell me to convince me that the gimp boys are just a bit slower than average. There is a much deeper mental impairment at play here.

Back to the "only trolls", gimp mental health thread you go.

 

[Roon]

Another post whinging about deleted threads?

I openly said, if you delete mine, i'll delete yours. Then the gimp group deleted mine.

Which part of that is hard to understand? Which part is hard to grasp?

There is nothing anyone can tell me to convince me that the gimp boys are just a bit slower than average. There is a much deeper mental impairment at play here.

Back to the "only trolls", gimp mental health thread you go.

Get a life

 

[yaseenmeoncebefore]

Get a life

I have one, hence why I only got around to responding to last Wednesday's trolling from whinenut today.

I suggest you take your own advice.

 

[Xerof]

Gee, only just been banned on X, see a few posts back on the Random information thread, and already back with more defamatory impersonation attempts. He really triggers you Yaseen doesn’t he

 

[pow4ade]

A few other reports on the Tshisekedi family’s corruption over the last two years by journalists in the DRC

07/08/2023


Victor TESONGO :#RDC Fin de la Prédation.
@TesongoVictor

Aug 7, 2023
138.5K Views

x.com​

x.com

08/07/2025

KIKI KIENGE
@KiengeKki

URGENT! Congolese defense associations and four former directors of Gécamines have filed a complaint against 9 members of the family of the President of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Félix #Tshisekedi, for the plundering of minerals in the provinces of Haut-Katanga and Lualaba, before the Belgian justice system, targeting nine members of the family of the President of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Félix Tshisekedi, for the looting of mining sites in the provinces of Haut-Katanga and Lualaba.

These 9 members of the Tshisekedi presidential clan (sister-in-law, son, brothers, cousins, and even the country's first lady), presented as "co-authors and accomplices of acts of corruption" during the plundering of mining sites. The complaint has been submitted to Federal Prosecutor Ann Fransen by lawyers Bernard and Brieuc Maingain. The 9 accused are all Belgian citizens and can be prosecuted by the Belgian justice system. "Other complaints may be filed soon in other countries from which other looters of our wealth originate," explains one of the plaintiffs. Kiki #Kienge



Jul 8, 2025
8,940 Views

https://x.com/KiengeKki/status/1942535420182511929

09/07/2025


KIKI KIENGE
@KiengeKki

Among the NGOs that filed a complaint against the 9 members of the Tshisekedi family for the plundering of Katanga's mines is the "Platform for the Promotion and Defense of Economic, Social, and Cultural Rights in the DRC (DESC/DRC)," cited by several sources. In 2024, three Katangese organizations united under the banner "The Children of Katanga" had already raised concerns about the Tshisekedi family's control over Gécamines basins in Kolwezi, notably accusing the president's wife, Denise #Nyakeru Tshisekedi.



7:01 PM · Jul 9, 2025
878 Views

https://x.com/KiengeKki/status/1942871598777749882

Rehashing all this corruption and family stuff is completely unhelpful and pointless at this stage of the game. Yet you persist, despite Nigel's request to refrain from such behaviour.

Unless you're doing it for personal therapy then fair enough, but at least keep it in your private club. Thanks.