what a wonder it is to read something that is full of intelligence and common sense.
Thanks for sharing hedrox
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Thanks for sharing hedrox
Yes, the moral of the story is kikki is giving KOBOLD a veil warning to respect AVZ legal rights, however i disagree with the last part of your sentence whereby you dont think kobold would go behind AVZ back, were they not the dudes who had a sniff thru our core library 12 - 18 months ago without authority ?
Were they not the dudes who trumpeted that a deal with AVZ was a lay down misere on their socials last month or thereabouts ?
Wouldnt trust them with a choir girl.
just sayin.
Hey Beish, my recollection was that when Nigel was asked whether anyone had illegally accessed our core library, the response was cleverly worded. Something like no one had accessed our core library ‘without AVZ’s permission’. I took it that AVZ was working with KoBold long before we formally found out about it.
Could be wrong, and happy to be corrected.
Mouthpiecenomnom
Regular
It was "without our knowledge" I think. Correct me if I am wrong. That is a very different connotation. I am convinced that Kobold were up to some classic tree shake shenanigans earlier on. Playbook stuff. Managed to make some itchy palms whinge (hey Karen lady and Jens) ? Weird shit with the forum? I'm not even mad that's just fair play as far as I'm concerned. They figured out it was folly and were wasting their time. AVZ are a hard boiled lot altogether plus we are unlisted.
And where were KoBold when Locke were pi...ng us about?It was "without our knowledge" I think. Correct me if I am wrong. That is a very different connotation. I am convinced that Kobold were up to some classic tree shake shenanigans earlier on. Playbook stuff. Managed to make some itchy palms whinge (hey Karen lady and Jens) ? Weird shit with the forum? I'm not even mad that's just fair play as far as I'm concerned. They figured out it was folly and were wasting their time. AVZ are a hard boiled lot altogether plus we are unlisted.
Xerof
Flaming 1967
I’m sure they would have been told by Celistine, who escorted them through the tenement, to just wait until AVZ go broke, then you can come and talk to me. IIRC, they never declared an interest until CATH provided the funding…….
From August on X following Rwanda’s ratification of the peace deal. Thanks to Cumquat Capital for asking the question.
The primary thing now is the following per side:
1) DRC side
Step 1: DRC Parliament must debate and ratify the
peace agreement.
Step 2: DRC gov't must create a plan to execute its
primary commitments (ie, demobilize FDLR)
Step 3: DRC must appoint officials to the Joint
Security Coordination Mechanism by July 27th and
the to the Joint Operations Committee.
2) Rwandan side
Step 1: Rwanda gov't must create a plan to execute
it's primary commitments (ie, withdraw all RDF
troops and arms in DRC and on border back to
barracks).
Step 2: Rwanda must appoint officials to the Joint
Security Coordination Mechanism by July 27th and
to the Joint Operations Committee.
3) US-Qatar-AU side
Step 1: Assign officials to the Joint Security
Coordination Mechanism and Joint Operations
Committee
Step 2: Get DRC and Rwanda to agree to the
sequencing of their commitments - ie, who
must do X which then triggers Y.
Step 3: Monitor who is abiding by the
commitments and who is not.
Step 4: Conclude a critical mineral agreement with
DRC (tied to resolving Manono).
Step 5: Conclude a mineral processing + migrant
relocation deal with Rwanda (which unlocks
on-hold Qatar investment in its aviation sector)
As a note, think of the JSCM as the Prosecutor in this "case" (ie, it will uncover the facts re: who is abiding by the terms of the agreement and who is not) and the JOC as the Judge (ie, it will decide who is is abiding by the agreement, who is not, and issue "rulings" to the effect and with them....punishment).
Let me know if you have any further questions before I leave for vacay and go silent on Twitter on July 30th until Aug 30th.
(ps: It is very possible the critical minerals deal will also require ratification by the DRC Parliament but will depend on how the DRC gov't will give preferential access to its minerals to the US.)
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The primary thing now is the following per side:
1) DRC side
Step 1: DRC Parliament must debate and ratify the
peace agreement.
Step 2: DRC gov't must create a plan to execute its
primary commitments (ie, demobilize FDLR)
Step 3: DRC must appoint officials to the Joint
Security Coordination Mechanism by July 27th and
the to the Joint Operations Committee.
2) Rwandan side
Step 1: Rwanda gov't must create a plan to execute
it's primary commitments (ie, withdraw all RDF
troops and arms in DRC and on border back to
barracks).
Step 2: Rwanda must appoint officials to the Joint
Security Coordination Mechanism by July 27th and
to the Joint Operations Committee.
3) US-Qatar-AU side
Step 1: Assign officials to the Joint Security
Coordination Mechanism and Joint Operations
Committee
Step 2: Get DRC and Rwanda to agree to the
sequencing of their commitments - ie, who
must do X which then triggers Y.
Step 3: Monitor who is abiding by the
commitments and who is not.
Step 4: Conclude a critical mineral agreement with
DRC (tied to resolving Manono).
Step 5: Conclude a mineral processing + migrant
relocation deal with Rwanda (which unlocks
on-hold Qatar investment in its aviation sector)
As a note, think of the JSCM as the Prosecutor in this "case" (ie, it will uncover the facts re: who is abiding by the terms of the agreement and who is not) and the JOC as the Judge (ie, it will decide who is is abiding by the agreement, who is not, and issue "rulings" to the effect and with them....punishment).
Let me know if you have any further questions before I leave for vacay and go silent on Twitter on July 30th until Aug 30th.
(ps: It is very possible the critical minerals deal will also require ratification by the DRC Parliament but will depend on how the DRC gov't will give preferential access to its minerals to the US.)
"We gringos "
August getting high on his own supply again .
I️t is 5:28 am in Doha atm ... after brekky they will be back to it. At least they have not spat the dummy again and gone home.
What Might Unfold on 17 July
1. Compromise on Territorial Control
2. Reintegration Mechanism Finalization
3. Justice Framework Calibration
Why Today’s Window Matters
What Might Unfold on 17 July
1. Compromise on Territorial Control- Breakthrough potential: Mediators may propose a phased administrative transition, granting M23 temporary local authority in parts of North and South Kivu for 2–4 years instead of 8.
- Why it matters: A shorter transition is more palatable to Kinshasa and could unlock agreement on reintegration terms.
2. Reintegration Mechanism Finalization- M23 commanders may be offered roles in local governance or security coordination, contingent on disarmament.
- There’s talk of a joint monitoring body co-chaired by neutral parties (possibly AU or Qatari observers).
3. Justice Framework Calibration- Progress could hinge on agreeing to selective amnesty tied to reconciliation processes—especially for rank-and-file M23 members versus top commanders.
- DRC may insist on retaining jurisdiction over crimes against civilians or regional violations.
Why Today’s Window Matters- The U.S. and Qatar had positioned 16–17 July as the final window before launching the Heads of State Protocol—the next phase of enforcing the Washington Accord.
- If M23 reaches agreement today or tomorrow, it allows for:
- Full activation of U.S. investment guarantees
- Finalization of KoBold Metals’ corridor logistics
- Reduction in humanitarian disruption across eastern Congo
lack of clarity: does 'neither' mean:
Option A: both parties muck around, so 'gringos disengage'
or
Option B: only one of the parties have to muck around before 'gringos disengage'
Remark
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I read that as Option B, although I agree it's not terribly clear
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Unfortunately, I do too and given the leopards are unlikely to change their spots........I read that as Option B, although I agree it's not terribly clear
Scoota30
Regular
I too read it as "if the peace deal that has been agreed upon in principle, isn't followed to what is agreed upon from both sides within the time stipulated, the peace deal would fall through/lapse".I read that as Option B, although I agree it's not terribly clear
Think of it like an MoU and not a binding agreement yet
"The Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) has extended an offer to the US, proposing exclusive access to its critical minerals and infrastructure projects, reported Bloomberg.
In return, the DRC is seeking security assistance to combat a rebellion that is allegedly supported by Rwanda.
In a direct appeal, Congo has requested an urgent meeting between President Felix Tshisekedi and US President Donald Trump
The proposed pact is expected to grant US companies privileged access to minerals essential for the global energy transition.
The request, conveyed in a letter to US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, underscores the DRC’s pressing need for support as it contends with internal conflict.
Congo’s mining sector, a significant source of copper, is currently dominated by Chinese companies.
A partnership with the US will enable Congo to diversify its economic alliances and reduce China’s influence.
The proposal includes operational control for US companies, “exclusive” extraction and export rights, participation in a deep-water port project and the creation of a joint strategic mineral stockpile.
In exchange for these economic opportunities, the US would provide military training, equipment, and direct security assistance including access to military bases to protect strategic resources."
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US attempting to clean up the sh1t fight first , but this is initially a Security for Minerals Deal at the request of Felix . I don't think for a minute the US is going to walk away from those critical minerals and let China rule the world .
In return, the DRC is seeking security assistance to combat a rebellion that is allegedly supported by Rwanda.
In a direct appeal, Congo has requested an urgent meeting between President Felix Tshisekedi and US President Donald Trump
The proposed pact is expected to grant US companies privileged access to minerals essential for the global energy transition.
The request, conveyed in a letter to US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, underscores the DRC’s pressing need for support as it contends with internal conflict.
Congo’s mining sector, a significant source of copper, is currently dominated by Chinese companies.
A partnership with the US will enable Congo to diversify its economic alliances and reduce China’s influence.
The proposal includes operational control for US companies, “exclusive” extraction and export rights, participation in a deep-water port project and the creation of a joint strategic mineral stockpile.
In exchange for these economic opportunities, the US would provide military training, equipment, and direct security assistance including access to military bases to protect strategic resources."
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US attempting to clean up the sh1t fight first , but this is initially a Security for Minerals Deal at the request of Felix . I don't think for a minute the US is going to walk away from those critical minerals and let China rule the world .
I always assumed Kiki was from DRC.
Now I wonder if he's actually ever even been there...
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