AVZ Discussion 2022
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Ah well Kobold with their high ethical standards will have no choice but to abide by both ICC and ICSID ruling . In case they were not aware , they are now . No Trespassing and hands off until a final ICSID ruling , at which time they can make AVZ an offer $$$$ . They will just need to be patient for another 4 or 5 years . In the case they are also a bunch of corrupt criminals AVZ can sue them as well . And we know they can pay .
Long time lurker. Like most here I have a significant amount invested I'm Avz. This shit has cost me a marriage (didn't like her that much anyway) and a reasonable amount of other opportunities. Having to rebuild has been an absolute fark around but I'm back, in a good time frame to where I was without this bs sodomising me along with the personal dramas, this isn't to say it wasn't easy. I don't have any real point to this post other than to post, so yeah. For myself I found that not chasing updates gave me back some sanity.
Dave Evans
Regular
For fuck sake, this is the latest bullshit that 
Mills Tshibangu is now spreading on YouTube and Twitter.
Shareholders on X should focus a little more attention on this lies 
Translated from French by
#RDC | #FINANCES "The financial scandal involving the mining company AVZ and the disappearance of 20 million US dollars is taking a new turn. The names of the Congolese authorities involved in this embezzlement of funds should soon be revealed. An extensive investigation has uncovered overwhelming evidence of corruption involving high-ranking officials who were allegedly bribed to favor AVZ in its dispute with state-owned Cominiere. A RawBank banking document details a series of suspicious withdrawals from an escrow account intended to finance these corrupt operations. As a reminder, AVZ needed to acquire 75% of the shares of a joint venture with Cominiere and Dathomir in order to strengthen its position on the Australian stock market. The company had therefore offered Dathomir to buy 15% of its shares for $20 million. However, shortly after, Cominiere sold 15% of its shares to a Chinese company for a much higher amount, angering Dathomir. Faced with this dispute, the Congolese justice system ordered the creation of a sequestered account. However, the funds in this account mysteriously disappeared. An investigation revealed that AVZ agents allegedly diverted this money to corrupt influential figures, including ministers, presidential advisers and financial inspectors. Investigative journalist Mills TSHIBANGU, who led the investigation, was prevented from revealing the names of the culprits at a recent press conference. However, the revelations promised this week should shed further light on this scandal that is shaking the Democratic Republic of Congo.
@Tshibangu_Mills
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Mills Tshibangu is now spreading on YouTube and Twitter.Shareholders on X should focus a little more attention on this
lies Translated from French by
#RDC | #FINANCES "The financial scandal involving the mining company AVZ and the disappearance of 20 million US dollars is taking a new turn. The names of the Congolese authorities involved in this embezzlement of funds should soon be revealed. An extensive investigation has uncovered overwhelming evidence of corruption involving high-ranking officials who were allegedly bribed to favor AVZ in its dispute with state-owned Cominiere. A RawBank banking document details a series of suspicious withdrawals from an escrow account intended to finance these corrupt operations. As a reminder, AVZ needed to acquire 75% of the shares of a joint venture with Cominiere and Dathomir in order to strengthen its position on the Australian stock market. The company had therefore offered Dathomir to buy 15% of its shares for $20 million. However, shortly after, Cominiere sold 15% of its shares to a Chinese company for a much higher amount, angering Dathomir. Faced with this dispute, the Congolese justice system ordered the creation of a sequestered account. However, the funds in this account mysteriously disappeared. An investigation revealed that AVZ agents allegedly diverted this money to corrupt influential figures, including ministers, presidential advisers and financial inspectors. Investigative journalist Mills TSHIBANGU, who led the investigation, was prevented from revealing the names of the culprits at a recent press conference. However, the revelations promised this week should shed further light on this scandal that is shaking the Democratic Republic of Congo.
@Tshibangu_Mills
x.com
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Carlos Danger
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'AVZ needed to acquire 75% of the shares of a joint venture with Cominiere and Dathomir in order to strengthen its position on the Australian stock market. The company had therefore offered Dathomir to buy 15% of its shares for $20 million. However, shortly after, Cominiere sold 15% of its shares to a Chinese company for a much higher amount, angering Dathomir'For fuck sake, this is the latest bullshit that
Shareholders on X should focus a little more attention on this
Translated from French by
#RDC | #FINANCES "The financial scandal involving the mining company AVZ and the disappearance of 20 million US dollars is taking a new turn. The names of the Congolese authorities involved in this embezzlement of funds should soon be revealed. An extensive investigation has uncovered overwhelming evidence of corruption involving high-ranking officials who were allegedly bribed to favor AVZ in its dispute with state-owned Cominiere. A RawBank banking document details a series of suspicious withdrawals from an escrow account intended to finance these corrupt operations. As a reminder, AVZ needed to acquire 75% of the shares of a joint venture with Cominiere and Dathomir in order to strengthen its position on the Australian stock market. The company had therefore offered Dathomir to buy 15% of its shares for $20 million. However, shortly after, Cominiere sold 15% of its shares to a Chinese company for a much higher amount, angering Dathomir. Faced with this dispute, the Congolese justice system ordered the creation of a sequestered account. However, the funds in this account mysteriously disappeared. An investigation revealed that AVZ agents allegedly diverted this money to corrupt influential figures, including ministers, presidential advisers and financial inspectors. Investigative journalist Mills TSHIBANGU, who led the investigation, was prevented from revealing the names of the culprits at a recent press conference. However, the revelations promised this week should shed further light on this scandal that is shaking the Democratic Republic of Congo.
@Tshibangu_Mills
x.com
14th of May 2021 - Dathomir write the letter to AVZ claiming to purportedly terminate the SPA's
21st of July 2021 - Cominiere write to AVZ asking for an ‘opinion’ on their intent to sell the 15% to Zijin
Either Cong was angered by looking into a crystal ball or Mills Tshibangu is a moron that can't conduct basic research
But I'm sure the purported evidence of wrongdoing by the only people with the balls to combat corruption within the DRC that he keeps refusing to show is coming one of these days lmfao
Winenut
Go AVZ!
Winenut
Go AVZ!
Who told you
Dijon101
Regular
For fuck sake, this is the latest bullshit that
Shareholders on X should focus a little more attention on this
Translated from French by
#RDC | #FINANCES "The financial scandal involving the mining company AVZ and the disappearance of 20 million US dollars is taking a new turn. The names of the Congolese authorities involved in this embezzlement of funds should soon be revealed. An extensive investigation has uncovered overwhelming evidence of corruption involving high-ranking officials who were allegedly bribed to favor AVZ in its dispute with state-owned Cominiere. A RawBank banking document details a series of suspicious withdrawals from an escrow account intended to finance these corrupt operations. As a reminder, AVZ needed to acquire 75% of the shares of a joint venture with Cominiere and Dathomir in order to strengthen its position on the Australian stock market. The company had therefore offered Dathomir to buy 15% of its shares for $20 million. However, shortly after, Cominiere sold 15% of its shares to a Chinese company for a much higher amount, angering Dathomir. Faced with this dispute, the Congolese justice system ordered the creation of a sequestered account. However, the funds in this account mysteriously disappeared. An investigation revealed that AVZ agents allegedly diverted this money to corrupt influential figures, including ministers, presidential advisers and financial inspectors. Investigative journalist Mills TSHIBANGU, who led the investigation, was prevented from revealing the names of the culprits at a recent press conference. However, the revelations promised this week should shed further light on this scandal that is shaking the Democratic Republic of Congo.
@Tshibangu_Mills
x.com
Wankers can write anything they want.
Courts will have the final say
Winenut
Go AVZ!
Yeah but it's worth calling out this absolute low-life fucker "Mills Tshibangu" on every single platform available
Just sayin'....
Dijon101
Regular
Oath
Kobold doing due diligence? I am leaning towards a TO by Kobold. Lets not forget that Jack Ma is part of Kobold and we know that he plays to the tune of Xi. This could be the win win that Felix is looking for to save face with the chinese.
Just my thoughts
Cumquat Cap
Regular
Bloody hope so, anyone been able to find Kobold Financials statements? Want to see how much cash they’re sitting on for any prospective purchase. Judging by their offices they’re running lean like a start up
Dave Evans
Regular
On the subject of Mills Tshibangu. Ronny Ngale who is the journalist who interviewed Tshibangu on YouTube responded to me.
Ronny previously believed some of Tshibangu’s lies but now has a better understanding of what’s really going on. He previously questioned this reply that August Cohen sent him but now is supportive of AVZ
August V
@AugustCohen4
Hello again, brother Ngale. I do understand Lingala. But I wouldn't say I'm a fluent speaker just yet. That said, and putting aside the commentary on DRC, the press, the Constitutional revisions and other matters, what is said about $AVZ here is misleading.
Here are the issues:
1. The speaker is clearly biased as he presents AVZ as the bad guy that is corrupting DRC's politicians. The Manono Dispute is not binary- its very complex and no side in the dispute are Angels.
2. The speaker also completely avoids the ownership disputes at the heart of the dispute- which is critically important context viewers need to fully understand the Manono Dispute.
3. The speaker fails to mention the others players in this dispute- particularly, DRC officials in the Ministry of Mines, DRC executives at state owned Cominiere, politicians like Senator @GuyLoando_ and former President Kabila, the Chinese miner Zijin, and the Chinese and Congolese who own Dathomir.
In otherwards, he's only singling out @AVZMinYianni which presents a misleading portrait of this dispute. To be clear, as a supporter of the Congolese and their young democracy, I'm very happy to see new media companies like Chat Television (CT) highlight and discuss important issues and in an African language using platforms Congolese can access via their mobile phones. But to do good journalism, CT should have had someone on this show that can speak for AVZ or do another show that allows AVZ's perspective to be heard by viewers.
I hope CT's managers will provide @AvzMinerals the opportunity to tell its side of the story so that Congolese who trust CT's news and commentary get a full picture of the Manono Dispute.
Here's CT's Youtube page: https://youtube.com/@chattvmillstshibangu
This is Chadrack Ngoy (who says he’s a lawyer and expert in criminal law) and is the person who posted Tshibangu’s lies
Chadrack-PLISTO NGOY
@drackNgoy4
#RDC | #FINANCES « Le scandale financier impliquant la société minière AVZ et la disparition de 20 millions de dollars américains prend un nouveau tournant. Les noms des autorités congolaises impliquées dans ce détournement de fonds devraient bientôt être révélés. Une enquête
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I responded to this with
Dave Evans
@DaveEva12049801
Replying to @drackNgoy4
@Tshibangu_Mills is a liar and you are spreading his lies. The truth is easy to prove which is why AVZ is winning all cases in the @iccwbo and @icsid courts of arbitration and why the DRC has been ordered to reinstate AVZ mining permit and Cominiere ordered to pay penalties
Then this tweet to Ronny
Dave Evans
@DaveEva12049801
You need to get the facts right before you go spreading Mills Tshibangu’s lies
https://x.com/DaveEva12049801/status/1852296082275107017
Dave Evans
@DaveEva12049801
Replying to @Presidence_RDC and @ALINGETEJULES_K
The @IgfRdc Report on Cominiere and Zijin in English and French
Recording of Celestin Kibeya taking a bribe from Zijin
https://x.com/kongopress/status/1644597533987987456 @ICC_arbitration @icsid findings against Cominiere and Zijin @WorldBank
Sorry for repeating those AVZ announcements but the point is that a little persistence can help the company and the shareholders on X are doing a great job supporting our company. Here’s the response from Ronny (the DRC journalist who interviewed Tshibangu) He liked the other responses too
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Xerof
Have a Cigar 1975
IF correct, logic says they’re a hostile party so forget speculating about them coming to the rescue
IF correct, my view would be that Cominiere, who is stupid enough to think they own 100% of 13359, have started another sale process
So @Cumquat Cap is your source 100% reliable?
Cumquat Cap
Regular
Yes fairly reliable, don’t believe they have $avz best interests at heart in this secret jaunt into the jungle. Can always be wrong and hope I am
Xerof
Have a Cigar 1975
@Dave Evans
Great work mate
Great work mate
Carlos Danger
Top 20
KoBold are a private company therefore are not required to disclose financial statements. However they have raised a total of $491,455,627 USD in their latest equity offering round as at 4th of October 2024 according to their SEC filings. Also they have multiple addresses listed online so the Berkeley location is likely just the official principal place of business but not a working office and their jurisdiction of incorporation is actually in Delaware.
Their previous rounds raised a total of $395,833,015 USD 2023 & 2022 however the majority of this money is likely gone hence the need for further equity offerings
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I'd find it hard to believe that a us company with such big backers would willfully step into the minefield of manono without avz being aware and supportive. The blowback on kobold if they were up to no good would be significant. I find it more likely if a potential buyer was interested they would want to see what they're buying and what they're getting into, so a bit of due diligence. I also think it makes sense that avz is not there given the signals it would send given no agreement or understanding is announced. So I somewhat foolish and maybe naively hope kobold are potential buyers and an out for avz.
still waiting impatiently for @geo_au 's update.
still waiting impatiently for @geo_au 's update.
Carlos Danger
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They don't have enough money to buy out AVZ
They do however have enough money with their latest raise to purchase a stake in Manono Lithium imo
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