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Damo4

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Seems the smart play when a nugget of gold is dropped is to quickly read what you can, then leave immediately to avoid the rubbish.

Classic BRN team complaining when anything good is released, always the same lads.

Thanks to all the valuable contributions made, sorry if I can't find them buried amongst the doom/gloom.
 
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rgupta

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I don't think there was a hype created on this site. In actual sense a lot of contributors here tell they sell their stock. We all know things can never travel in one direction but a few people wants to become rich sooner than others.
I believe in Warren Buffets quote 'be greedy when others are fearful.' But before that do your research right.
Research here does not mean look at previous comments on some social forum.
 
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I just summed up Brainchip for a friend:
1) We cannot continue the current form of artificial intelligence because it uses exponentially more power the bigger the AI models get. If we continue as we are now, 30% of the world's power consumption will go to AI by 2030.
2) Neuromorphic computers are the best solution to the problem in point 1.
3) Brainchip and GrAI Matter Labs have the absolute best solutions on the market.
 
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Mugen74

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Oligopoly I love this word, right up there with ubiquitous!😉
 
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OMG I can't believe one of you reported Bacon's post and it's now been moderated. You claim you want counter arguments to your ramping dot-joining fairytales but you can't handle it when someone speaks up. Really, really weak of you, whoever it was. Please don't just nod and smile at the AGM. Don't keep accepting the 'its revolutionary technology that'll take a while for people to understand' rhetoric because that excuse can be used forever if BRN keep releasing more iterations of their revolutionary IP - no one will ever understand it 🤣 and as a consequence no one will ever buy it.
I agree with you, that post didn't really deserve to be moderated.... I understand why people can sometimes become a bit depressed, but I think that's mostly because they lack the vision and then I think it's better to put their sad view into perspective.
 
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Pappagolla

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OMG I can't believe one of you reported Bacon's post and it's now been moderated. You claim you want counter arguments to your ramping dot-joining fairytales but you can't handle it when someone speaks up. Really, really weak of you, whoever it was. Please don't just nod and smile at the AGM. Don't keep accepting the 'its revolutionary technology that'll take a while for people to understand' rhetoric because that excuse can be used forever if BRN keep releasing more iterations of their revolutionary IP - no one will ever understand it 🤣 and as a consequence no one will ever buy it.

No one will ever buy it, except those who already have lol.

Are you going to the AGM to voice your concerns?
 
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Cyw

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OMG I can't believe one of you reported Bacon's post and it's now been moderated. You claim you want counter arguments to your ramping dot-joining fairytales but you can't handle it when someone speaks up. Really, really weak of you, whoever it was. Please don't just nod and smile at the AGM. Don't keep accepting the 'its revolutionary technology that'll take a while for people to understand' rhetoric because that excuse can be used forever if BRN keep releasing more iterations of their revolutionary IP - no one will ever understand it 🤣 and as a consequence no one will ever buy it.
It may not be the case that more iterations mean no one will buy it. The way I see it, when they said Akida 1000 was never meant to be a revenue generator but a demo chip, what happened was that they invented a ground breaking, earth shattering chip but there was no application for it. They have EAP's with the tech and money to try it out and when they said "this does not work" or "it would be btter if this would happen instead" type of things and Brainchip put all the bug fixes and enhancements in AK1500 and the more fundamental changes into AK2000.

I believe that cash is not coming in for AK1000 but with AK1500 for the more run-of-the-mill stuff and AK2000 for the more advanced stuff like deep space, star wars and medical applications, revenue can be explosive. The question now is when? Hopefully before some tech giants come up with a better alternative.

I am just a bit frustrated with the moving of the goal post. We saw no big revenue in 2022 when we were told to watch the financials and now it looks like nothing worth mentioning in 2023 as well.

I guess that is the risk of investing in something so new, it may take much longer time than originally expected to identify and build the applications.
 
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BaconLover

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I assume there is a lot of pressure with time frames to the holders. May be they want to become rich overnight.
On the other hand time is a sweet luxury with us as there is not much competition here.
To me company should work on best interests of share holders in a longer run and that is exactly what is happening here.
By the way is that I am smelling a greed from someone who wants to get more on these cheap prices?
Mate, take your condescending post elsewhere.

I'm sticking to timelines mentioned by management.

There's no greed here, Tony Dawe can check my BRN transaction history and sue me if he thinks I'm manipulating to buy or sell shares.
 
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I remember a guy at HC that said he would drink a beer for every cent that Brainchip rose.

Anybody who knows if he survived the spike above 2 AUD? :D
 
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I remember a guy at HC that said he would drink a beer for every cent that Brainchip rose.

Anybody who knows if he survived the spike above 2 AUD? :D
I'm not sure the standard liver can handle 164 beers in 20 days, averaging 23.4 beers a day :D
 
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That's an easy answer .......... his wife of course !!! :) :)
Smart wife!

I'm dragging my feet and scowling when I admit that he may do more good at Brainchip than in this forum.
 
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JDelekto

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It may not be the case that more iterations mean no one will buy it. The way I see it, when they said Akida 1000 was never meant to be a revenue generator but a demo chip, what happened was that they invented a ground breaking, earth shattering chip but there was no application for it. They have EAP's with the tech and money to try it out and when they said "this does not work" or "it would be btter if this would happen instead" type of things and Brainchip put all the bug fixes and enhancements in AK1500 and the more fundamental changes into AK2000.

I believe that cash is not coming in for AK1000 but with AK1500 for the more run-of-the-mill stuff and AK2000 for the more advanced stuff like deep space, star wars and medical applications, revenue can be explosive. The question now is when? Hopefully before some tech giants come up with a better alternative.

I am just a bit frustrated with the moving of the goal post. We saw no big revenue in 2022 when we were told to watch the financials and now it looks like nothing worth mentioning in 2023 as well.

I guess that is the risk of investing in something so new, it may take much longer time than originally expected to identify and build the applications.
I believe the context is that the actual "chip" was not meant to be a revenue generator. They did not have an enormous amount of the chips manufactured, and those they did manufacture were put into the devices sold to EAP partners, evaluators, and developers.

The AKD1000 IP is still a very viable and marketable commercial product. MegaChips and Renesas have licensed it for their products and customers. BrainChip spelled this out long ago on the roadmap shared at the various technology and investor conferences.

NVISO makes its human behavior SDKs available for the AKD1000 platform but also demonstrates substantial performance differences between BrainChip's technology and more well-known competitors.

My point is that it was not a "throwaway" first pass that was never intended to be a product; quite the contrary. Yes, neuromorphic is still quite a new concept in AI hardware and will require adoption. I imagine the first adopters are making neuromorphic sensors, such as those for vision processing. More will follow over time.

In the meantime, it makes no sense for BrainChip to stop working on its second-generation technology influenced by other companies whose interest has now been piqued. I imagine they will be treated to architectural improvements that will provide the functionality required to fulfill their vision while providing enhanced performance for specific applications.

There are plenty of applications that can be fulfilled using 1st generation Akida architecture.
 
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I believe the context is that the actual "chip" was not meant to be a revenue generator. They did not have an enormous amount of the chips manufactured, and those they did manufacture were put into the devices sold to EAP partners, evaluators, and developers.

The AKD1000 IP is still a very viable and marketable commercial product. MegaChips and Renesas have licensed it for their products and customers. BrainChip spelled this out long ago on the roadmap shared at the various technology and investor conferences.

NVISO makes its human behavior SDKs available for the AKD1000 platform but also demonstrates substantial performance differences between BrainChip's technology and more well-known competitors.

My point is that it was not a "throwaway" first pass that was never intended to be a product; quite the contrary. Yes, neuromorphic is still quite a new concept in AI hardware and will require adoption. I imagine the first adopters are making neuromorphic sensors, such as those for vision processing. More will follow over time.

In the meantime, it makes no sense for BrainChip to stop working on its second-generation technology influenced by other companies whose interest has now been piqued. I imagine they will be treated to architectural improvements that will provide the functionality required to fulfill their vision while providing enhanced performance for specific applications.

There are plenty of applications that can be fulfilled using 1st generation Akida architecture.
Yes, exactly, Department of Homeland Security tested Akida 1.0 and saw it favorably against nVidia a100. They then described that they use a 3D model, which I believe Akida 2.0 TENN could handle (as I understand it can either handle 3D or 2D temporal data?). They also had to make a work around to make it run on 4 bit, now Akida 2.0 has 8 bit which may improve the situation. Maybe the direct sensor input of Akida 2.0 would prove to be the solution? Plus Akida 2.0 has more NPU's, so can handle a larger model and is faster.

From my point of view, nVidia should even start to get slightly concerned about their datacenter market.
 
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DK6161

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And I don't see some of them here now.
Looks like the LDA deal is finished after all. Funny how the timing of all that works.
All these podcasts and talk of trillions, all these talks about explosive revenue, imminent contracts and interesting times....
What's interesting is a commercial product such as akida is selling lesser than a research piece such as loihi.
Forget trillions, hopefully BRN makes more than 5 million revenue this year. I know a 20 million market cap company on ASX which made nearly 5 million revenue last year.
Hopefully by 2025... and then when 2025 comes we can move the post to 2030.
Don't forget "10 x Microsoft", "ubiquitous".
 
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Don't forget "10 x Microsoft", "ubiquitous".
This is Microsofts Market cap since the start, took some time didn't it?
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I hadn't seen this before but it may be old for some?
Vision Transformers (ViTs) – Their Popularity And Unique Architecture

In today’s world, computer vision has become essential for solving various problems. For instance, we use it to:
 
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Xray1

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Smart wife!

I'm dragging my feet and scowling when I admit that he may do more good at Brainchip than in this forum.
Just imagine what it would like if the BRN management team and staff were to be reading these posts !!!!
 
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