AVZ Discussion 2022

[MoneyBags1348]

Here is the video of Christian Lukusa's interview. The document is shown at 20:18. I'm only basing my assumption that the money was paid into Dathomir's bank account and then reversed off this bank statement made public in an interview with AVZ's lawyer.

The name of the account being Dathomir and the amount in question being 20m USD that is labelled 'AVZ reversal' on August 27th 2021 corresponding to the redacted deposit early that month is pretty conclusive. This is the exact time that AVZ claim to have completed the transactions in official announcements.

It's likely AVZ initially paid into an escrow account and that the money was returned there by Dathomir where it still sits. I wasn't aware of there being an escrow account and it's trivial to the overall point. AVZ paid Cong how and when he stipulated in the agreements. That's why AVZ now claim good legal title to 75% ownership. Cong can cry all he wants but it's obvious that he just wants more money because the lithium price went up after he sold.

When you click on that link in your post now Carlos, a YouTube clip of Mills Tshibangu comes on…. He he is one of the Twitter posters who have been criticising (if not trying to undermine) AVZ.

He is giving AVZ a right if reply via Christian Lukusa and it seems our attorney is doing a good job presenting the facts!

Getting a bit tired of watching all the translated sub titles but excellent to see Marius’s interviews being followed up by Lukusa’s

@Spikerama it looks like it would be an excellent time to post AVZ’s achievements to back up these interviews and just focus any criticism on Cominiere, Zigin and Dathomir’s illegal actions

Christian also mentioning how much money the DRC is losing every day by CAMI not granting our ML so obviously that moving graph of yours is an excellent reminder

Nice to see our representatives in the DRC doing a good job….

At the end Mills Tshibangu says the President is following this file and then Mills goes on to give praise to the MoP

A lot of people want justice, I’ll be happy if Felix gives us full ownership and the ML, but no doubt there’ll be others that won’t be happy until she goes…. Shareholder’s need to be realistic, it might not happen

Mills goes on to say that Felix wants further negotiations because he wants the DRC to get more out of it…. so hopefully we won’t get the continued winging about Nigel and the BOD when it’s obvious it’s the DRC politicians that are fucking us around

Fucken quiet in here tonight

 

[Hemicuda]

When you click on that link in your post now Carlos, a YouTube clip of Mills Tshibangu comes on…. He he is one of the Twitter posters who have been criticising (if not trying to undermine) AVZ.

He is giving AVZ a right if reply via Christian Lukusa and it seems our attorney is doing a good job presenting the facts!

Getting a bit tired of watching all the translated sub titles but excellent to see Marius’s interviews being followed up by Lukusa’s

@Spikerama it looks like it would be an excellent time to post AVZ’s achievements to back up these interviews and just focus any criticism on Cominiere, Zigin and Dathomir’s illegal actions

Christian also mentioning how much money the DRC is losing every day by CAMI not granting our ML so obviously that moving graph of yours is an excellent reminder

Nice to see our representatives in the DRC doing a good job….

At the end Mills Tshibangu says the President is following this file and then Mills goes on to give praise to the MoP

A lot of people want justice, I’ll be happy if Felix gives us full ownership and the ML, but no doubt there’ll be others that won’t be happy until she goes…. Shareholder’s need to be realistic, it might not happen

Mills goes on to say that Felix wants further negotiations because he wants the DRC to get more out of it…. so hopefully we won’t get the continued winging about Nigel and the BOD when it’s obvious it’s the DRC politicians that are fucking us around

Fucken quiet in here tonight

What’s there to say,,,,,,,

 

[Spikerama]

Well if you are talking about conversational language.... adding a colon can completely change the meaning of a sentence.

For example: Bob ate Jane's sandwich.
Or: Bob ate Jane's colon.

 

[The Fox]

More deceptive information from tommy

I don’t know how anyone could live with someone who spends his time insinuating lies and bragging about spending nights at the Casino…. I wonder if his family know how many people’s lives he is destroying with his deceptive and misleading articles

Remember this one

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Nice one MB

Message for Tommy.

Hey Tommy, we all know you read TSE for inspiration.

You are an embarrassment to the AFR and the reason I cancelled my subscription.

If I was you, I would refrain from posting your location on FB when drinking beers out and about town pretending to live the high life.

In short, I hope you keep a light on Tommy, there's lots of nasty people out there, sticking your neck out is not wise IMO, I hope you stay safe.

Love the Fox

 

[wombat74]

No ML until ICC verdict . Earliest September 2024 . Or until AVZ disappear . Or MoM gives us the Boot .
Time for Nigel to address shareholders . What are our options . MoM , MoP , Head of Cami , Prime Minister , their Chinese puppet masters all anti AVZ . The President turning a blind eye . What are you going to do Nigel to make sure SH do not lose all of their investment ???
What you have been doing up until now is not working . Please address shareholders . Our money is not yours to sacrifice . Stop this pathetic cone of silence . Speak to the Shareholders . We know the Chinese are trying to stall us with their DRC mates into extinction . Lets cut the BS and inform us of all the options . Lets call a meeting without the BS of the RS/AGM or perhaps you could do an interview . Just keep it real and respect for the truth . .

 

[The Fox]

I’ve been thinking about this all day.

Why the massive change by the company regarding the award of the ML in relation to ICC????

Well the only thing that has changed since Nigel and Ben stated that the award of the ML is NOT dependent on the outcome of the ICC cases….

- is the reversal of the ministerial decree for the mining licence.

I cannot think of any other valid reason as to why the company has completely changed its point of view

I just wish they tell us ‘the shareholders’ exactly why?

It’s not good enough making such a statement in the financial report with no explanation.

Message for Felix.

Dear Felix, the current strategy AVZ is forced to take looks solid considering the limited cards we can play. AVZ sitting on the Manono resource and controlling interest in Dathcom, so let the ICC cases roll on if thats what you want Felix? Everyone knows you cannot just kick out AVZ, no chance.

So Felix, the ball is in your court, you can force the Chinese crooks and corrupt DRC Gov officials and CAMI officials to capitulate in favour of AVZ, or nobody wins for a long long time and AVZ wins big at the end of the day at the ICC, sitting opposite DRC lawyers sometime down the road.

So what, AVZ misses the first few years of Lithium take up, big deal, only another 30 years of massive increase and demand to follow. Take your time Felix, import lithium from Zimbabwe if you like to support your vision of a battery manufacturing nation, laugh, cough, laugh, sorry it's a reflex issue I have to bullshit. Or you can do the right thing.

How much of a dick will you look like if "your" battery manufacturing vision including supplying lithium has to come from a neighbouring country Felix?

IMO, AVZ has a siege in place around Manono. The corrupt can't starve us out, we will survive and the crooks and bad actors will fail in the end.

Every day the awareness of AVZ and their plight increases in the DRC and globally, this cluster fuck in your Government and Portfolio Companies will soon get away from you Felix and be a significant embarrassment for you, including your family ties into CAMI.

Good luck getting the votes in December Felix with the AVZ issue unresolved. How much support from the ADB, IMF, EU and US will there be for you if you let the Chinese and corrupt Ministers and Gov agents run all over an Aussie company that has done all the work at Manono?

Don't be a weak prick Felix, take a hit from internal support from corrupt Ministers and do the right thing, otherwise you will be out the gate and the US and EU will support an alternate President.

Cheers The Fox

 

[ozmacca]

Nice one MB

Message for Tommy.

Hey Tommy, we all know you read TSE for inspiration.

You are an embarrassment to the AFR and the reason I cancelled my subscription.

If I was you, I would refrain from posting your location on FB when drinking beers out and about town pretending to live the high life.

In short, I hope you keep a light on Tommy, there's lots of nasty people out there, sticking your neck out is not wise IMO, I hope you stay safe.

Love the Fox

Can you imagine if you were having a few after workies and saw this prick at the bar!?

 

[Samus]

I wasn't aware of there being an escrow account and it's trivial to the overall point.

Yes and no, given the agreement was to put it in escrow from where Dathomir would withdraw it means it's been paid by AVZ as agreed.
This provides some context and makes a bit of sense as to how Cong now can claim what he claims even though the money was paid.
You'd imagine if this is the case it's a good thing for us given the money was never returned to AVZ per se, if he did indeed withdraw it at some point then all the better.

 

[Charbella]

Message for Felix.

Dear Felix, the current strategy AVZ is forced to take looks solid considering the limited cards we can play. AVZ sitting on the Manono resource and controlling interest in Dathcom, so let the ICC cases roll on if thats what you want Felix? Everyone knows you cannot just kick out AVZ, no chance.

So Felix, the ball is in your court, you can force the Chinese crooks and corrupt DRC Gov officials and CAMI officials to capitulate in favour of AVZ, or nobody wins for a long long time and AVZ wins big at the end of the day at the ICC, sitting opposite DRC lawyers sometime down the road.

So what, AVZ misses the first few years of Lithium take up, big deal, only another 30 years of massive increase and demand to follow. Take your time Felix, import lithium from Zimbabwe if you like to support your vision of a battery manufacturing nation, laugh, cough, laugh, sorry it's a reflex issue I have to bullshit. Or you can do the right thing.

How much of a dick will you look like if "your" battery manufacturing vision including supplying lithium has to come from a neighbouring country Felix?

IMO, AVZ has a siege in place around Manono. The corrupt can't starve us out, we will survive and the crooks and bad actors will fail in the end.

Every day the awareness of AVZ and their plight increases in the DRC and globally, this cluster fuck in your Government and Portfolio Companies will soon get away from you Felix and be a significant embarrassment for you, including your family ties into CAMI.

Good luck getting the votes in December Felix with the AVZ issue unresolved. How much support from the ADB, IMF, EU and US will there be for you if you let the Chinese and corrupt Ministers and Gov agents run all over an Aussie company that has done all the work at Manono?

Don't be a weak prick Felix, take a hit from internal support from corrupt Ministers and do the right thing, otherwise you will be out the gate and the US and EU will support an alternate President.

Cheers The Fox

Well said Fox! Is this why we have the date September 2024?

So Felix, the ball is in your court, you can force the Chinese crooks and corrupt DRC Gov officials and CAMI officials to capitulate in favour of AVZ, or nobody wins for a long long time and AVZ wins big at the end of the day at the ICC, sitting opposite DRC lawyers sometime down the road.

 

[CHB]

I do think if march goes by and nothing then more will start to call out Felix.

The election is important to him. Him sitting on this and letting his corrupt ministers run wild will not go well for his image when truly called out.

IMO.

 

[Hudnut]

Can you imagine if you were having a few after workies and saw this prick at the bar!?

Yes. I've imagined it a few times.

 

[The Fox]

I do think if march goes by and nothing then more will start to call out Felix.

The election is important to him. Him sitting on this and letting his corrupt ministers run wild will not go well for his image when truly called out.

IMO.

Well, I've already started. Nothing else has worked much to date, so may as well go for the head of the snake.

On another unrelated matter, maybe it's a bit of a pop quiz or silly idea, I don't know........

Who knows who I am on Twitter?

Don't say it here on TSE, just message me direct. Will help me determine who is friend of foe and other things, if you have the time

Cheers the Fox

PS. The old saying, you show me yours.........

 

[cruiser51]

Well, I've already started. Nothing else has worked much to date, so may as well go for the head of the snake.

On another unrelated matter, maybe it's a bit of a pop quiz or silly idea, I don't know........

Who knows who I am on Twitter?

Don't say it here on TSE, just message me direct. Will help me determine who is friend of foe and other things, if you have the time

Cheers the Fox

PS. The old saying, you show me yours.........

Are you Adèle Kahinda, just tell me if I'm warm.

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Back in my days on the crapper after I got suspended a few times the moderators let me know they were monitoring my IP address…. To be honest, after getting suspended I did use a couple of aliases things including ‘The Bag Man’ and ‘Felix’ both in keeping with the Bag theme.

Anyway, it’s 2:30am in the morning here and there’s a few odd things going on with this website at the moment (couldn’t give ‘likes’ and taking forever to load pages etc) so hopefully tse aren’t monitoring IP addresses like the crapper did and hopefully no Chinese monitoring us….

Either way I’m taking the weekend off

 

[John25]

Back in my days on the crapper after I got suspended a few times the moderators let me know they were monitoring my IP address…. To be honest, after getting suspended I did use a couple of aliases things including ‘The Bag Man’ and ‘Felix’ both in keeping with the Bag theme.

Anyway, it’s 2:30am in the morning here and there’s a few odd things going on with this website at the moment (couldn’t give ‘likes’ and taking forever to load pages etc) so hopefully tse aren’t monitoring IP addresses like the crapper did and hopefully no Chinese monitoring us….

Either way I’m taking the weekend off

Shit…..Bags its 2.20am over in the Wild West & i’ll catch up with you tomorrow .Just finished work …might take up the Foxes challenge

 

[Doc]

Well, I've already started. Nothing else has worked much to date, so may as well go for the head of the snake.

On another unrelated matter, maybe it's a bit of a pop quiz or silly idea, I don't know........

Who knows who I am on Twitter?

Don't say it here on TSE, just message me direct. Will help me determine who is friend of foe and other things, if you have the time

Cheers the Fox

PS. The old saying, you show me yours.........

Well you ain’t Jen’s. He just deleted his Twitter. Not sure if that’s a bad omen for us. He was ardent supporter of AVZ

 

[Bin59]

 

[Doc]

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I can’t work out if that bloke is a supporter of AVZ or not. He accusing Dathomir of ‘stealing the country’ in one tweet.

 

[Bin59]

I can’t work out if that bloke is a supporter of AVZ or not. He accusing Dathomir of ‘stealing the country’ in one tweet.

In the past he’s been a strong supporter of AVZ and has even been accused by Congolese of working for us - despite that tweet re Dathomir, I believe he still supports us / Dathcom.

 

[Flight996]

It seems that Goldman Sachs (GS) remains the bottom-feeder of bottom-feeders.

Overnight, a group of Democratic U.S. lawmakers wrote to the Justice Department seeking a probe into the role of Goldman Sachs Group in the collapse of the Silicon Valley Bank.

Apparently Goldman Sachs Group advised SVB on the purchase of its bond portfolio, which as we know eventually turned to jelly and caused the bank to collapse.

GS probably bought put positions or had shorted the bank.

Ref: Reuters:

Democratic lawmakers urge US to probe Goldman's role in SVB collapse

A group of Democratic U.S. lawmakers sent a letter to regulators and the Justice Department requesting a probe into the role of Goldman Sachs Group Inc in the collapse of the Silicon Valley Bank (SVB) , the office of U.S. Representative Adam Schiff said on Friday.

www.reuters.com

Cheers
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