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Here we go, dragging me back to existential truth yet again.Let’s be honest FF. This is what you think, as you wrote it first![]()
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AKIDA BALLISTA
Here we go, dragging me back to existential truth yet again.Let’s be honest FF. This is what you think, as you wrote it first![]()
Only rule on a roller coaster is stay seated. It’s those who stand up who loose their head."it is entirely possible that Akida helped clinch the commercial pilot deal between nviso and Siemens"
That, was exactly my thinking as well, Diogenese!
@Labsy @BaconLover, where did you get the 18 ingredients for KFC from!
Let's try and keep things factual here, 11 herbs and spices (of which only 1 or 2, would be a mystery), the chicken and the oil, that's 13!
Unless you're including chips and sides?
On a sour note, US futures looking miserable again already..
The roller coaster continues..
Very true FF,Only rule on a roller coaster is stay seated. It’s those who stand up who loose their head.
FF
AKIDA BALLISTA
Hey Tech where do you have a property in NzMaybe comments of the recent podcast have been posted, but I have to say that listening to Doug Fairbairn was magical.
Megachips have certainly picked a top man to head their operations in the US, he has clearly stated the early product pipeline, that
being, Wearables, Security and IIOT Industrial Internet of Things, so expect our IP embedded in this fields first.
The billion company that nobody had/has ever heard of, except within the Japanese market space, until now !
I had a quiet laugh to myself earlier today while chatting to her younger sister back in New Zealand, back in 2020 while I was over
at my property in NZ, we had a conversation about buying into Brainchip at 5c, today she was considering buying a small parcel, and
I said the price was currently 0.852, it was very cheap, having myself bought more at 0.95, $1.07 and $1.16 recently, I'm not concerned
with those prices whatsoever, as I was when buying at 0.039...but my advice to her was, if you weren't prepared to listen to me then, at
the 5c mark, why listen to me now at 0.852.
I just listen to our founder and all our brilliant staff, if they say it's all on track, well, that's good enough for me.
Always trust your own gut feel, not everyone shares the same risk tolerance as I and many others do, and that's ok, some investors are
more than happy working on the yield as their return, and I except that.
Cheers and goodnight from Perth.....Tech x
Pray tell..Excellent post on LinkedIn @chapman89 just had a read and a like.
Those who are well versed in the subject can may ignore this post.Hi Cosors,
They're using a CNN-IP dedicated deep learning module for their cameras not SNN so I don't think they're using Akida. It looks like they are targeting cheaper models (niche market) not looking to go fully autonomous or past ADAS Level 3. Very basic hands off stuff and auto parking at this stage.
"I guess that's still the case, it can be chosen between SNN and CNN, just that it can't be processed as fast and energy efficient?"Those who are well versed in the subject can ignore this post.
I'm responding to you because I read this and it was new to me, I've only been around a short time.
May 29, 2020
"The startup Brainchip therefore set itself the goal of developing an SNN-based chip with the Akida that is suitable for use in edge devices. It was actually supposed to be on the market last year. But then co-founder and CTO Peter van der Made realized that potential users would not be able to do much with a pure SNN chip simply because they are used to CNNs. So Brainchip decided to also integrate CNN functions on the Akida. "That's why we accepted the additional development time of one year and integrated MAC arrays on the chip," explained Peter van der Made to Markt&Technik."
I guess that's still the case, it can be chosen between SNN and CNN, just that it can't be processed as fast and energy efficient? I hope I understand this correctly. So if that's the case then I'll have to revise my original answer a bit because I would have been wrong. Please bear with me on my newbe post.
Here is a slightly older (2020) article, short and easy to understand. For those who sometimes can not follow the content and wonder what Diogenese talks about.
I don't think it's been shared here yet. It starts with Akida and ends with ReRAM from Weebit in two parts:
https://www.elektroniknet.de/halbleiter/dem-gehirn-immer-aehnlicher.176820.html
I'm not trying to add the two together, Diogenese has already made it clear that this would be difficult if I have understood this correctly. So not compatible without further ado.
Good morning @Esq.111Morning Rise from the ashes,
That was a pretty intense read , on my mobile.
Skimming through, all interesting.
Try these pages , if limited for time.
Page 79, Neuromorphic chips.
Page 91, Artificial Synapses/ Brain.
Page 129, Molecular Recognition.
Page 282, interesting chart.
Page 292, interesting
Page 328, Fast Emerging Tech.
Definitely worth a read.
Regards,
Esq.
Thanks for this cosors,Those who are well versed in the subject can ignore this post.
I'm responding to you because I read this and it was new to me, I've only been around a short time.
May 29, 2020
"The startup Brainchip therefore set itself the goal of developing an SNN-based chip with the Akida that is suitable for use in edge devices. It was actually supposed to be on the market last year. But then co-founder and CTO Peter van der Made realized that potential users would not be able to do much with a pure SNN chip simply because they are used to CNNs. So Brainchip decided to also integrate CNN functions on the Akida. "That's why we accepted the additional development time of one year and integrated MAC arrays on the chip," explained Peter van der Made to Markt&Technik."
I guess that's still the case, it can be chosen between SNN and CNN, just that it can't be processed as fast and energy efficient? I hope I understand this correctly. So if that's the case then I'll have to revise my original answer a bit because I would have been wrong. Please bear with me on my newbe post.
Here is a slightly older (2020) article, short and easy to understand. For those who sometimes can not follow the content and wonder what Diogenese talks about.
I don't think it's been shared here yet. It starts with Akida and ends with ReRAM from Weebit in two parts:
https://www.elektroniknet.de/halbleiter/dem-gehirn-immer-aehnlicher.176820.html
I'm not trying to add the two together, Diogenese has already made it clear that this would be difficult if I have understood this correctly. So not compatible without further ado.
On the SNN/CNN issue, CNN is a software technique running MACs on CPU/GPU, hence slow and power hungry.Thanks for this cosors,
As you say, it explains the concepts in readily-understandable language.
Although I had deduced the need for 2-bit and 4-bit weights/actuations Akida to use MAC (Multiply Accumulate) calculation circuits, this is one of the first publications I have seen which attributes the presence of MACs to a statement from the company.
There is a trade off between speed/power efficiency and accuracy as the number of bits in the weights/actuations increases.
A 4*4 MAC is roughly speaking 4 times faster/less power hungry than an 8*8 MAC.
A 1-bit (pure spiking) Akida is about 16 times faster/more power efficient than the 4*4 MAC Akida embodiment.
As the article you attached says, Weebit are still trying to get a consistently reproduceable analog MemRistor, as the manufacturing process is difficult to control precisely. Manufacturing variations are a problem for analog neurons/synapses because there are hundreds or thousands of input signals (currents) for each synapse in which the input currents are added to produce an output voltage whose amplitude is determined by the sum of the input currents flowing in a resistor. That is, for each input current, the output voltage increases by a fixed amount. Hence the operating voltage of the circuit must be divided into very small increments to accommodate the number of potential input currents. Thus variations in the resistance of the MemRistor/ReRAM elements can produce errors which accumulate.
The reason this is not a problem with digital neurons/synapses is that the digital voltage has a much greater margin for error because the operating voltage only needs to be divided in half to indicate either a 1 or a zero, and the accumulation of signals is a digital number composed of 1s or zeros.
Thank you very much for both contributions!Thanks for this cosors,
As you say, it explains the concepts in readily-understandable language.
Although I had deduced the need for 2-bit and 4-bit weights/actuations Akida to use MAC (Multiply Accumulate) calculation circuits, this is one of the first publications I have seen which attributes the presence of MACs to a statement from the company.
There is a trade off between speed/power efficiency and accuracy as the number of bits in the weights/actuations increases.
A 4*4 MAC is roughly speaking 4 times faster/less power hungry than an 8*8 MAC.
A 1-bit (pure spiking) Akida is about 16 times faster/more power efficient than the 4*4 MAC Akida embodiment.
As the article you attached says, Weebit are still trying to get a consistently reproduceable analog MemRistor, as the manufacturing process is difficult to control precisely. Manufacturing variations are a problem for analog neurons/synapses because there are hundreds or thousands of input signals (currents) for each synapse in which the input currents are added to produce an output voltage whose amplitude is determined by the sum of the input currents flowing in a resistor. That is, for each input current, the output voltage increases by a fixed amount. Hence the operating voltage of the circuit must be divided into very small increments to accommodate the number of potential input currents. Thus variations in the resistance of the MemRistor/ReRAM elements can produce errors which accumulate.
The reason this is not a problem with digital neurons/synapses is that the digital voltage has a much greater margin for error because the operating voltage only needs to be divided in half to indicate either a 1 or a zero, and the accumulation of signals is a digital number composed of 1s or zeros.