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Why do some people still think that BrainChip would consider selling just before a breakthrough? That’s like selling your stocks at an all-time low, knowing they’re about to rise soon. Nobody sells their company if it hasn't reached significant value… or would you sell your business or properties when prices are at their lowest? Why does this topic keep coming up? It makes no sense.
I hope the management has more foresight and confidence than some people here
 
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So why would Nvidia not try to take over BrainChip given in USD terms the current MC must seem as cheap as chips I’m looking fwd to the day a tier one like Nvidia will make an offer PVDM and other major holders can’t refuse. 😎
Nvidia are real skinflints - they only offered $40 Billion for ARM.

It would be interesting to see the FIRB reaction ...
 
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I notice they are writing their website address as brainchip.ai

.... and redirect to brainchip.com
This is a regular technique if you use more than one domain.
 
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Why do some people still think that BrainChip would consider selling just before a breakthrough? That’s like selling your stocks at an all-time low, knowing they’re about to rise soon. Nobody sells their company if it hasn't reached significant value… or would you sell your business or properties when prices are at their lowest? Why does this topic keep coming up? It makes no sense.
I hope the management has more foresight and confidence than some people here
You are turning the question around!

If anyone is interested in buying BRN that's not the same as not for sale is it??

My house is not currently for sale but if someone offered me 2 mill$, its gone on the spot.

So this topic will be coming up not matter if you like it not.

No it would likely not be good for us shareholders if the company is sold now but we were discussing IF ANYONE ARE INTERESTED!!!!!!

An offer have to be approved by the shareholders.

Do you understand now 007???
 
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Bring on 27th June @Pom down under :)
 
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You are turning the question around!

If anyone is interested in buying BRN that's not the same as not for sale is it??

My house is not currently for sale but if someone offered me 2 mill$, its gone on the spot.

So this topic will be coming up not matter if you like it not.

No it would likely not be good for us shareholders if the company is sold now but we were discussing IF ANYONE ARE INTERESTED!!!!!!

An offer have to be approved by the shareholders.

Do you understand now 007???
I think you don’t understand… and I would sell my bicycle for 2,5 million if someone would make me an offer.. what kind of statement is that? IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED… if a dog had wheels, he would be a bicycle…
 
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Did the Optimus Satellite, have Beacon on board, is the big question?..

ANT61 are encouraging organisations to use it, so it must be ready for implemention?

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You would think that they would've taken the opportunity with the Optimus Satellite, as a first use case and not real good, if they couldn't use it, to establish a connection..

Or maybe it's all part of their plan..

"Hey, we just established contact with Optimus, using Beacon. Good thing we had that particular piece of hardware onboard!"..
..the ultimate in proving a technology, demonstrate the usecase you are trying to sell.
 
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I think you don’t understand… and I would sell my bicycle for 2,5 million if someone would make me an offer.. what kind of statement is that? IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED… if a dog had wheels, he would be a bicycle…
My dog has four legs.
 
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I asked Ant61 whether the Optimus satellite carries the Ant61 Beacon and the answer is no. Not sure this has been posted, I never read all the messages in this forum because of too much noises. Have a nice day..
 
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Bring on 27th June @Pom down under :)
May I ask why as the only thing of interest on the 27th is

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Yr super contribution :)
It takes a while to clear so maybe a week or so after 😆 but I’ve got a few $$$$ at the ready and holding off for a bit 🙏
 
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So it would be a car… sorry for the mistake
I’d like to disagree. It would be a chair 😜
 
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While it is perfectly conceivable that Meta could be exploring BrainChip’s offerings behind an NDA wall of silence, I don’t see any conclusive evidence at present that we are indeed engaged with them.

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In my opinion, FF is once again jumping to conclusions.
He is basing his reasoning for adding Meta to his personal list of BrainChip’s engagements on a supposed fact, namely that Chris Jones was introduced to BrainChip and TENNs while working at Meta, even though this premise has not been verified - it is merely FF’s interpretation of the following quote (from 3:18 min, my transcript):

“So, about a year ago, uh, I was at Meta, I was in their AI Infrastructure Group, and on an almost daily basis I would see new neural network architectures.

So, when I was introduced to BrainChip, I didn’t think I would really be impressed by anything a small team was gonna develop, erm. They told me about TENNs, I was a little bit skeptical to be honest at first. As I started getting to understand the benchmarks and a little bit more of the math and how it worked, I started to get pretty excited by what they had.”


It is a hasty judgement to draw the conclusion that the above quote necessarily expresses simultaneity rather than considering the alternative - posteriority.

Chris Jones himself does not explicitly state that he was introduced to BrainChip and TENNs while working for Meta (picture BrainChip staff giving a power point presentation at Meta’s premises).
Rather, this is what FF read into his words.

But there is another way to interpret that quote; one, which makes more sense to me:

When I started watching the video of Chris Jones’s presentation on TENNs, my immediate thoughts were that a) BrainChip had sent an excellent speaker to the 2024 Embedded Vision Summit in May to replace Nandan Nayampally (who had originally been scheduled to give that talk), and b) how job loss can turn out to be a blessing in disguise.

What FF doesn’t seem to be aware of is that Chris Jones had been affected by one of Meta’s 2023 mass layoffs. It must have been the April 2023 round, as in his LinkedIn post below he mentions over 4000 other employees sharing his fate as well as the fact that he had been with the company for only 11 months. This aligns with his employment history on LinkedIn, according to which he started as a Senior Product Technical Program Manager at Meta in June 2022.

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Under California law (the so-called WARN Act) companies over a certain size need to give affected employees at least 60 days advance notice in case of significant workforce reductions, which in combination with a severance pay package would account for Chris Jones’s LinkedIn profile stating he was with Meta until July 2023, even though he appears to have been laid off in April 2023.


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Judging from the practice observed with other US tech giants handling domestic layoffs, it is however highly likely that from the day the layoff was communicated, the affected employees would - with immediate effect - no longer have had any access to their company emails, computer files and confidential information, despite remaining on the company payroll for another two to four months (depending on their respective severance pay packages).

And unless Meta was an EAP customer of BrainChip at the time (for which there has never been any indication whatsoever), Meta employees would not have been privy to any details about TENNs prior to BrainChip’s white paper publication on June 9, 2023 - weeks after Chris Jones had found out about being laid off and had since presumably been cut off from the company’s internal communication channels and flow of information.


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So chances are he did not develop his enthusiasm for BrainChip and TENNs in his role as Senior Product Technical Program Manager at Meta - but rather while job hunting post-layoff!

Luckily for both Chris Jones as well as BrainChip, getting introduced to each other seems to have turned out a win-win situation.
Chris Jones is clearly an asset to our company from what I can tell through him presenting in public, and hopefully he will be able to proudly tell his daughter one day that when she was a toddler, he turned a job loss into an immense gain by serendipitously discovering what BrainChip had to offer.

And who knows - maybe Chris Jones has been/is/will be the one introducing BrainChip to his former Meta colleagues. But as for now, Meta stays off my personal (virtual) list of BrainChip’s engagements.

DYOR.
 

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@DK6161 ... did you run out of steam champ? You had so much to say before. Are you waiting for @Iseki's next motley fool article before you have something to say that "fits the narrative"?

In any case, I hope you have been reflecting on your choices and are feeling more open to accepting your shortcomings. It's important that you respect yourself.

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Yeah mate, busy writing for MF at the moment. Sorry didn't have time to clown you here.
Anyway keep an eye out for me and @Iseki new articles tomorrow about IR that has done SFA and directors laughing all the way to the bank.
Really appreciated your baiting. Do keep going champ!
Seriously got nothing more to say really. Waiting for some positive news before thinking of buying back in. Have some cash ready to go at maybe around 10 or 15c.
Not advice
 
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While it is perfectly conceivable that Meta could be exploring BrainChip’s offerings behind an NDA wall of silence, I don’t see any conclusive evidence at present that we are indeed engaged with them.

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In my opinion, FF is once again jumping to conclusions.
He is basing his reasoning for adding Meta to his personal list of BrainChip’s engagements on a supposed fact, namely that Chris Jones was introduced to BrainChip and TENNs while working at Meta, even though this premise has not been verified - it is merely FF’s interpretation of the following quote (from 3:18 min, my transcript):

“So, about a year ago, uh, I was at Meta, I was in their AI Infrastructure Group, and on an almost daily basis I would see new neural network architectures.

So, when I was introduced to BrainChip, I didn’t think I would really be impressed by anything a small team was gonna develop, erm. They told me about TENNs, I was a little bit skeptical to be honest at first. As I started getting to understand the benchmarks and a little bit more of the math and how it worked, I started to get pretty excited by what they had.”


It is a hasty judgement to draw the conclusion that the above quote necessarily expresses simultaneity rather than considering the alternative - posteriority.

Chris Jones himself does not explicitly state that he was introduced to BrainChip and TENNs while working for Meta (picture BrainChip staff giving a power point presentation at Meta’s premises).
Rather, this is what FF read into his words.

But there is another way to interpret that quote; one, which makes more sense to me:

When I started watching the video of Chris Jones’s presentation on TENNs, my immediate thoughts were that a) BrainChip had sent an excellent speaker to the 2024 Embedded Vision Summit in May to replace Nandan Nayampally (who had originally been scheduled to give that talk), and b) how job loss can turn out to be a blessing in disguise.

What FF doesn’t seem to be aware of is that Chris Jones had been affected by one of Meta’s 2023 mass layoffs. It must have been the April 2023 round, as in his LinkedIn post below he mentions over 4000 other employees sharing his fate as well as the fact that he had been with the company for only 11 months. This aligns with his employment history on LinkedIn, according to which he started as a Senior Product Technical Program Manager at Meta in June 2022.

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Under California law (the so-called WARN Act) companies over a certain size need to give affected employees at least 60 days advance notice in case of significant workforce reductions, which in combination with a severance pay package would account for Chris Jones’s LinkedIn profile stating he was with Meta until July 2023, even though he appears to have been laid off in April 2023.


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Judging from the practice observed with other US tech giants handling domestic layoffs, it is however highly likely that from the day the layoff was communicated, the affected employees would - with immediate effect - no longer have had any access to their company emails, computer files and confidential information, despite remaining on the company payroll for another two to four months (depending on their respective severance pay packages).

And unless Meta was an EAP customer of BrainChip at the time (for which there has never been any indication whatsoever), Meta employees would not have been privy to any details about TENNs prior to BrainChip’s white paper publication on June 9, 2023 - weeks after Chris Jones had found out about being laid off and had since presumably been cut off from the company’s internal communication channels and flow of information.


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So chances are he did not develop his enthusiasm for BrainChip and TENNs in his role as Senior Product Technical Program Manager at Meta - but rather while job hunting post-layoff!

Luckily for both Chris Jones as well as BrainChip, getting introduced to each other seems to have turned out a win-win situation.
Chris Jones is clearly an asset to our company from what I can tell through him presenting in public, and hopefully he will be able to proudly tell his daughter one day that when she was a toddler, he turned a job loss into an immense gain by serendipitously discovering what BrainChip had to offer.

And who knows - maybe Chris Jones has been/is/will be the one introducing BrainChip to his former Meta colleagues. But as for now, Meta stays off my personal (virtual) list of BrainChip’s engagements.

DYOR.
That is a tendentious reading of Mr Jones' comments about when he found out about Akida. The normal reading of the following is that he saw several NNs while he worked at Meta and, following on that statement, he says "So, when I was introduced to to BrainChip ... they told me about TeNNs."

"So, about a year ago, uh, I was at Meta, I was in their AI Infrastructure Group, and on an almost daily basis I would see new neural network architectures.

So, when I was introduced to BrainChip, I didn’t think I would really be impressed by anything a small team was gonna develop, erm. They told me about TENNs, I was a little bit skeptical to be honest at first. As I started getting to understand the benchmarks and a little bit more of the math and how it worked, I started to get pretty excited by what they had
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It's about Attention and LSTM. You need to take the whole context into consideration. The statements would normally be linked by the man on the Clapham omnibus. This is in normal English speech, not a statutory declaration or Kantian transcendentalism.

The following argument is a case of pulling the trigger before removing the pistol from its holster:

What FF doesn’t seem to be aware of is that Chris Jones had been affected by one of Meta’s 2023 mass layoffs. It must have been the April 2023 round, as in his LinkedIn post below he mentions over 4000 other employees sharing his fate as well as the fact that he had been with the company for only 11 months. This aligns with his employment history on LinkedIn, according to which he started as a Senior Product Technical Program Manager at Meta in June 2022.

The interesting thing is that the TeNNs patent was filed in mid-2022, so BrainChip would have only started talking to EAPs about TeNNs after the patent was filed, although public discussion of TeNNs did not take place until much later. He worked for Meta for 11 months from April 2022. Given that the patent filing preceded coincides with the period of Mr Jones' employment with Meta, the inference is open that Meta was an EAP or in discussion with BrainChip at least before Mr Jones was outplaced/right-sized from Meta. There was a 9 month period when Mr Jones was working with Meta when Brainchip was free to discuss TeNNs with EAPs under NDA.
 
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Those of you who have taken a closer look at the global neuromorphic research community will likely have come across the annual Telluride Neuromorphic Cognition Engineering Workshop, a three week project-based meeting in eponymous Telluride, a charming former Victorian mining town in the Rocky Mountain high country of southwestern Colorado. Nestled in a deep glacial valley, Telluride sits at an elevation of 8750 ft (2667 m) and is surrounded by majestic rugged peaks. Truly a scenic location for a workshop.

The National Science Foundation (NSF), which has continuously supported the Telluride Workshop since its beginnings in the 1990s, described it in a 2023 announcement as follows: It “will bring together an interdisciplinary group of researchers from academia and industry, including engineers, computer scientists, neuroscientists, behavioral and cognitive scientists (…) The annual three-week hands-on, project-based meeting is organized around specific topic areas to explore organizing principles of neural cognition that can inspire implementation in artificial systems. Each topic area is guided by a group of experts who will provide tutorials, lectures and hands-on project guidance.”

https://new.nsf.gov/funding/opportu...ng-augmented-intelligence/announcements/95341

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The topic areas for the 2024 Telluride Neuromorphic Workshop are now online. As every year, the list of topic leaders and invited speakers includes the crème de la crème of neuromorphic researchers from all over the world. While no one from Brainchip has made the invited speakers’ list (at least not to date), I was extremely pleased to notice that Akida will be featured nevertheless! It has taken the academic neuromorphic community ages to take Brainchip seriously (cf my previous post on Open Neuromorphic: https://thestockexchange.com.au/threads/brn-discussion-ongoing.1/post-404235), but here we are, finally getting acknowledged alongside the usual suspects:

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Some readers will now presumably shrug their shoulders and consider this mention of Brainchip in a workshop programme as being insignificant as opposed to those coveted commercial announcements. To me, however, the inclusion of Brainchip at Telluride marks a milestone.

Also keep in mind what NSF Program Director Soo-Siang Lim said about Telluride (see link above): “This workshop has a long and successful track-record of advancing and integrating our understanding of biological and artificial systems of learning. Many collaborations catalyzed by the workshop have led to significant technology innovations, and the training of future industry and academic leaders.”

I’d just love to know who of the four topic leaders and/or co-organisers had suggested to include Brainchip for their hands-on project “Processing space-based data using neuromorphic computing hardware” (and whether this was readily agreed on or not):

Was it one of the two colleagues from Western Sydney University’s International Centre for Neuromorphic Systems (ICNS)? Gregory Cohen (who is responsible for Astrosite, WSU’s containerised neuromorphic inspired mobile telescope observatory as well as for the modification of the two neuromorphic cameras on the ISS as part of the USAFA Falcon Neuro project) or Alexandre Marcireau?

Or was it Gregor Lenz, who left Synsense in mid-2023 to co-found Neurobus (“At Neurobus we’re harnessing the power of neuromorphic computing to transform space technology”) and is also one of the co-founders of the Open Neuromorphic community? He was one of the few live viewers of Cristian Axenie’s January 15 online presentation on the TinyML Vision Zero San Jose Competition (where his TH Nürnberg team, utilising Akida for their event-based visual motion detection and tracking of pedestrians, had come runner-up), and asked a number of intriguing questions about Akida during the live broadcast.

Or was it possibly Jens Egholm Pedersen, the Danish doctoral student at Stockholm’s KTH Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden’s largest technical university, who hosted said presentation by Cristian Axenie on the Open Neuromorphic YouTube channel and appeared to be genuinely impressed about Akida (and the Edge Impulse platform), too?

Oh, and last, but not least:
Our CTO Anthony M Lewis aka Tony Lewis has been to Telluride numerous times: the workshop website lists him as one of the early participants back in 1996 (when he was with UCLA’s Computer Science Department). Tony Lewis is subsequently listed as a guest speaker for the 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004 workshops (in his then capacity as the founder of Iguana Robotics) - information on the participants between 2006 - 2009 as well as for the year 2011 is marked as “lost”. In 2019, Tony Lewis had once again been invited as either topic leader or guest speaker, but according to the website could not come.

So I guess there is a good chance we will see him return to Telluride one day, this time as CTO of Brainchip, catching up with a lot old friends and acquaintances, many of whom he also keeps in touch with via his extensive LinkedIn network, so they’d definitely know what he’s been up to.

As I said in another post six weeks ago:

Anyone interested in registering online for remote participation in the upcoming hybrid Telluride Neuromorphic Workshop (June 30 - July 19)?




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Meanwhile, two more speakers have been invited by the organisers of the topic area SPA24: Neuromorphic systems for space applications, which is the one that will provide on-site participants with the opportunity to get hands-on-experience with neuromorphic hardware including Akida:

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Dr Damien Joubert from Prophesee and … 🥁 🥁 🥁 Laurent Hili, our friend from ESA!



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