BRN Discussion Ongoing

[FabricatedLunacy]

So can someone explain to this noob what the pros and cons are with being dropped form ASX200?

Go easy. Just tell me. Don’t belittle

 

[Cartagena]

The Short shit show increased by multiples when we entered 200 I was wasn't pleased because I knew that shit show would increase.
I'd prefer if we had more meat on the bone before entering again

Agree it's a good thing we are out. Thank goodness

Every holding I've had over the years always got pummeled after entering the 200 even some decent revenue producing companies but those ones bounced back hard.

Yep IHL is one example. Got smashed as soon as it entered the index by shorters. Better off to stand on it's feet without the shorts and we have Akida Gen 2 release coinciding hopefully the big release within the next week or two.

 

[HopalongPetrovski]

So can someone explain to this noob what the pros and cons are with being dropped form ASX200?

Go easy. Just tell me. Don’t belittle

In a nutshell.......

The institutions that are required to hold ASX200 listed companies as a part of their index will sell down the positions they hold potentially putting downward pressure on our share price. Negative for our share price.

Any shorter who has an open position with any of the above companies will be obliged to close so they can return what they still owe to those same companies potentially applying upward pressure. Positive for our share price.

Going forward there will possibly be less shares available to be lent to short us with, possibly reducing our liquidity on market.
This may make us more difficult to manipulate and so, being a less attractive target, they may move on to easier prospects.

Something like that, in theory anyway.

 

[Easytiger]

I couldnt be any happier to see the back of the asx200.

We should not be in there till we have multiple IP deals or real Revenue grow quarter on quarter.

Something tells me the please explain Ann today was reported from someone that wanted to get out. Knowing there was a big chance that BRN will be kicked out of asx200

They were waiting for the 2.0 in August to be released so they could get out on a pump.

Now they have to return the shares back and others will have to sell…… where are the buyers?

I would like BRN to Ann the 2.0 after the 18th of September.

Time for them to

Buyers at what price - may be the start of a takeover .

 

[Quatrojos]

In a nutshell.......

The institutions that are required to hold ASX200 listed companies as a part of their index will sell down the positions they hold potentially putting downward pressure on our share price. Negative for our share price.

Any shorter who has an open position with any of the above companies will be obliged to close so they can return what they still owe to those same companies potentially applying upward pressure. Positive for our share price.

Going forward there will possibly be less shares available to be lent to short us with, possibly reducing our liquidity on market.
This may make us more difficult to manipulate and so, being a less attractive target, they may move on to easier prospects.

Something like that, in theory anyway.

The institutions that are required to hold ASX200 listed companies as a part of their index will sell down the positions they hold potentially putting downward pressure on our share price.

Unless this has already been happening. Wouldn't they begin selling before the ann, despite having two weeks before rebalance?

 

[Zedjack33]

In a nutshell.......

The institutions that are required to hold ASX200 listed companies as a part of their index will sell down the positions they hold potentially putting downward pressure on our share price. Negative for our share price.

Any shorter who has an open position with any of the above companies will be obliged to close so they can return what they still owe to those same companies potentially applying upward pressure. Positive for our share price.

Going forward there will possibly be less shares available to be lent to short us with, possibly reducing our liquidity on market.
This may make us more difficult to manipulate and so, being a less attractive target, they may move on to easier prospects.

Something like that, in theory anyway.

Thanks for that. Negative and positive. Faaaark this beast does my head in.

 

[FabricatedLunacy]

In a nutshell.......

The institutions that are required to hold ASX200 listed companies as a part of their index will sell down the positions they hold potentially putting downward pressure on our share price. Negative for our share price.

Any shorter who has an open position with any of the above companies will be obliged to close so they can return what they still owe to those same companies potentially applying upward pressure. Positive for our share price.

Going forward there will possibly be less shares available to be lent to short us with, possibly reducing our liquidity on market.
This may make us more difficult to manipulate and so, being a less attractive target, they may move on to easier prospects.

Something like that, in theory anyway.

Thank you!

 

[David holland]

Big announcement Akida 2, Nek minite 28 cents, tell me I'm wrong on past announcements

 

[Cartagena]

In a nutshell.......

The institutions that are required to hold ASX200 listed companies as a part of their index will sell down the positions they hold potentially putting downward pressure on our share price. Negative for our share price.

Any shorter who has an open position with any of the above companies will be obliged to close so they can return what they still owe to those same companies potentially applying upward pressure. Positive for our share price.

Going forward there will possibly be less shares available to be lent to short us with, possibly reducing our liquidity on market.
This may make us more difficult to manipulate and so, being a less attractive target, they may move on to easier prospects.

Something like that, in theory anyway.

Very well explained. Therefore it's not all bad, considering the large outstanding shorts and the imminent news on horizon, very likely the resultant force will be up up and away.

 

[Getupthere]

Hold on to your shares everyone….at lest till after the 18th of September.

They will need lots of sellers.

They will be baiting to find the sellers

Let the games begin.

 

[HopalongPetrovski]

The institutions that are required to hold ASX200 listed companies as a part of their index will sell down the positions they hold potentially putting downward pressure on our share price.

Unless this has already been happening. Wouldn't they begin selling before the ann, despite having two weeks before rebalance?

I think this will depend on the individual fund managers and what they are being advised by their teams and algorithms.
Their hands will be somewhat tied by the constitutions and rules of their funds, but they will always have some latitude in their exposure.
I would like to think some will continue to hold as they see our potential and so maybe just shuffle their holdings sideways into complimentary positions. Considering the large volume of shorts taken out against us we could see some increased volatility over the next couple of weeks while they sort out their game plans going forward.

 

[Rskiff]

So if the insto's lent out shares, then they too would now have lost a fair amount seen as that the shorters forced the price down. That should be a lesson one would think.

 

[jtardif999]

If we don’t get out shit together soon, we’re going to fade into insignificance. A very disappointing day, especially considering tye great start we had to it.

Also, where the fuck is AKD2000? Did anyone follow up with Tony out of interest?

Aww common Rob glass half full mate while they’re not making consistent money BRN are better off out of the 200, we’ve been smashed by shorters. Shorter focus should be a lot less now.

 

[DingoBorat]

Well we're out of the ASX 200 now huh..

I guess we didn't make enough revenue or progress, to warrant staying in.

Neuromorphic A.I. apparently has no future.


Interestingly, Liontown Resources (LTR) are now in the ASX 100 and still with zero revenue.

But they do have a shitload of lithium in the ground and lithium has a rock solid position, as the material for batteries, for the foreseeable future right?? ..

That's the difference, between how technology stocks and mining stocks are valued on the ASX.

BrainChip will change that.

 

[Humble Genius]

In a nutshell.......

The institutions that are required to hold ASX200 listed companies as a part of their index will sell down the positions they hold potentially putting downward pressure on our share price. Negative for our share price.

Any shorter who has an open position with any of the above companies will be obliged to close so they can return what they still owe to those same companies potentially applying upward pressure. Positive for our share price.

Going forward there will possibly be less shares available to be lent to short us with, possibly reducing our liquidity on market.
This may make us more difficult to manipulate and so, being a less attractive target, they may move on to easier prospects.

Something like that, in theory anyway.

Why would they sell down at a loss?

 

[wilzy123]

If we don’t get out shit together soon, we’re going to fade into insignificance. A very disappointing day, especially considering tye great start we had to it.

Also, where the fuck is AKD2000? Did anyone follow up with Tony out of interest?

Did you follow up? Or are you blacklisted by Tony for whinging too much?

 

[HopalongPetrovski]

So if the insto's lent out shares, then they too would now have lost a fair amount seen as that the shorters forced the price down. That should be a lesson one would think.

I doubt the insto's would have lost anything in this process.
They buy and sell, to and from themselves and complimentary structures and employ hedging techniques so that whilst they are earning "rents" from small and larger fry shorter's, they ensure they end up making margins no matter which direction the share price heads.
They are the "real" players in the market with access to resources which lend them the gravity to actually make certain things happen.

 

[Damo4]

Well we're out of the ASX 200 now huh..

I guess we didn't make enough revenue or progress, to warrant staying in.

Neuromorphic A.I. apparently has no future.


Interestingly, Liontown Resources (LTR) are now in the ASX 100 and still with zero revenue.

But they do have a shitload of lithium in the ground and lithium has a rock solid position, as the material for batteries, for the foreseeable future right?? ..

That's the difference, between how technology stocks and mining stocks are valued on the ASX.

BrainChip will change that.

It is funny how the market sees miners vs tech.
They are afforded WAY more patience, time and capital raises. They will also do all of this well before any feasibility studies.
On the flip side if the tech isn't disruptive near immediately, it's killed on market.

I like how we are positioned regarding our patents, I think it protects us well to build a little slower.

 

[Diogenese]

Thanks for that. Negative and positive. Faaaark this beast does my head in.

A classic push-me-pull-you.

 

[Diogenese]

So if the insto's lent out shares, then they too would now have lost a fair amount seen as that the shorters forced the price down. That should be a lesson one would think.

... if this were the first time it ever happened ...

... but the lesson goes unlearnt.