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Frangipani

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Hi Frangipani,

Here's a peek at a couple of Tachyum patents:

US10915324B2 System and method for creating and executing an instruction word for simultaneous execution of instruction operations 20180816 DANILAK RADOSLAV




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a processing architecture and related methodology that utilizes location-aware processing that assigns Arithmetic Logic Units (ALU) in a processor to instruction operations based on prior allocations of ALUs to prior instruction operations. Such embodiments minimize the influence of internal transmission delay on wires between ALUs in a processor, with a corresponding significant increase in clock speed, reduction in power consumption and reduction in size.

A methodology for creating and executing instruction words for simultaneous execution of instruction operations is provided. The methodology includes creating a dependency graph of nodes with instruction operations, the graph including at least a first node having a first instruction operation and a second node having a second instruction operation being directly dependent upon the outcome of the first instruction operation; first assigning the first instruction operation to a first instruction word; second assigning a second instruction operation: to the first instruction word upon satisfaction of a first at least one predetermined criteria; and to a second instruction word, that is scheduled to be executed during a later clock cycle than the first instruction word, upon satisfaction of a second at least one predetermined criteria; and executing, in parallel by the plurality of ALUs and during a common clock cycle, any instruction operations within the first instruction word.


As you can see, Tachyum are big on ALUs.

It also seems to be unasynchronous.

This one is more recent:


EP3979070A1 SYSTEM AND METHOD OF POPULATING AN INSTRUCTION WORD 20190815

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A methodology for populating an instruction word for simultaneous execution of instruction operations by a plurality of arithmetic logic units, ALUs), in a data path includes creating a dependency graph of instruction nodes, and initially designating any in the dependency graph as global, whereby the corresponding instruction node is expected to require inputs from outside of a predefined limited physical range of ALUs smaller than the full extent of the data path. A first available instruction node is selected from the dependency graph and assigned to the instruction word. Also selected are any available instruction nodes that are dependent upon a result of the first available instruction node and do not violate any predetermined rule, including that the instruction word may not include an available dependent instruction node designated as global. Available dependent instruction nodes are assigned to the instruction word, and the dependency graph updated to remove any assigned nodes from further assignment consideration.


In their blurb, they claim to have designed an all-in-one CPU-GPU-TPU, which they claim performs better than CPUs and GPUs. They need the ALUs to do the CPU/GPU work, but ALUs work on multi-bit numbers, not spikes.

Tachyum’s Prodigy delivers performance up to 4x that of the highest performing x86 processors (for cloud workloads) and up to 3x that of the highest performing GPU for HPC and 6x for AI applications.

Taking Tachyum at their word, this is very commendable, but doing Al/ML on even the best organized CPU/GPU/ALU arrangement will always be inferior to Akida.

(I think that, to accommodate 8-bit weights and actuations, Akida does include a couple of ALUs in the input layer NPUs, but the internal layers only process up to 4-bit weights & actuations)

Thank’s for looking up those Tachyum patents and for your detailed explanation, @Diogenese. While semiconductor tech in general is very much over my head, I do understand you are practically excluding that Akida is involved. 😃

Now that your ogre has long since retired, may I suggest an alternative in the form of an illustration by German humorist, poet, illustrator, and painter Wilhelm Busch (1832-1908), whose most famous work, Max und Moritz – Eine Bubengeschichte in sieben Streichen (Max and Moritz: A Story of Seven Boyish Pranks), was published in 1865. Busch’s black humorous tale, written entirely in rhymed couplets, was illustrated by the author himself and remains a beloved classic of German literature to this day.

A lesser known of his tales is called Diogenese and The Bad Boys of Corinth (1864), about another terrible duo, harassing your namesake, the ancient Greek philosopher, who was quietly lying in his barrel, thinking, when the mischiefs arrived on the scene.
Well, those bad boys ultimately meet their untimely demise, just like Max and Moritz do (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_and_Moritz), and the old cynic crawls back into his barrel, chuckling contently.

The story’s penultimate illustration would serve well as a replacement for the ogre, whenever you feel pestered by us non-techies... 😂


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Frangipani

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Anyone online that recalls the name of the space industry thingamabob company we recently collaborated with. Ant-something ?

ANT61


Can someone please forward this to @Rise from the ashes , as he purportedly put me on the ignore list a couple of weeks ago…
 
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cosors

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cosors

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Huh?
I've never put you on ignore list
look in your chat please 😅
I think it was the spat in the bar that should stay there.
 
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cosors

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One thing is/are (please correct me) personal opinions that can be bulky or complicated. That's why Jamo has rented us a bar, also for music. What takes place there remains there is my suggestion.
I give the poster before absolutely right the whole concerns we know and know and know and know and know again should also land in the appropriate thread.
 
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cosors

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One thing is personal opinions that can be bulky or complicated. That's why Jamo has rented us a bar, also for music. What takes place there remains there is my suggestion.
I give the poster before absolutely right the whole concerns we know and know and know and know and know again should also land in the appropriate thread.
Our burning container is for those who do not want to 'hear'.
 
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"While it was no secret Softbank intended to retain a majority control over Arm, Bloomberg reports that as few as 10 percent of the company's shares will be available for purchase. Several Big Tech players, including Nvidia, Apple, Samsung, and Amazon have all expressed interest in becoming anchor investors in the company's IPO. ®"
 
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Esq.111

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Anyone online that recalls the name of the space industry thingamabob company we recently collaborated with. Ant-something ?
Morning Rise,

Ant61 is the name of the space mob.

Regards,
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cosors

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Morning Rise,

Ant61 is the name of the space mob.

Regards,
Esq.
The mob that takes us into space besides others.
 
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wilzy123

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Yes, I get that we have an amazing tech and it takes time to be adopted. But at the same time, we see multiple AI start ups specialising in edge-ai (some using SNN as well) landing deals and partnering with big tech companies listing them on their websites, fundings from big tech companies, etc...

Equating tangible growth by Brainchip to a series of general vagaries you've stumbled across on the interwebs is not exactly a fair or well considered comparison. Sounds like more bad research or lies.
 
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TheFunkMachine

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For those of you who haven’t read the Wevolver 2023 Edge AI technology report here are the slides that mentions Brainchip by Name. I’m confident there are indirect information in the report that is very much relevant to brainchip, however it’s a 117 page pdf so you would have to do the reading yourself.
 

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For those of you who haven’t read the Wevolver 2023 Edge AI technology report here are the slides that mentions Brainchip by Name. I’m confident there are indirect information in the report that is very much relevant to brainchip, however it’s a 117 page pdf so you would have to do the reading yourself.
 

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Thank’s for looking up those Tachyum patents and for your detailed explanation, @Diogenese. While semiconductor tech in general is very much over my head, I do understand you are practically excluding that Akida is involved. 😃

Now that your ogre has long since retired, may I suggest an alternative in the form of an illustration by German humorist, poet, illustrator, and painter Wilhelm Busch (1832-1908), whose most famous work, Max und Moritz – Eine Bubengeschichte in sieben Streichen (Max and Moritz: A Story of Seven Boyish Pranks), was published in 1865. Busch’s black humorous tale, written entirely in rhymed couplets, was illustrated by the author himself and remains a beloved classic of German literature to this day.

A lesser known of his tales is called Diogenese and The Bad Boys of Corinth (1864), about another terrible duo, harassing your namesake, the ancient Greek philosopher, who was quietly lying in his barrel, thinking, when the mischiefs arrived on the scene.
Well, those bad boys ultimately meet their untimely demise, just like Max and Moritz do (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_and_Moritz), and the old cynic crawls back into his barrel, chuckling contently.

The story’s penultimate illustration would serve well as a replacement for the ogre, whenever you feel pestered by us non-techies... 😂


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Hi Frangipani,

Thanks for the suggested replacement for the superannuated ogre. I'll be sure to leave a couple of projecting nails.

The ogre's work is largely done, as it primarily consisted in debunking suggestions that Akida was already incorporated in various third party products. Apart from the Qualcomm fanperson(s) (whom we would all wish to be proven correct), we now have a much clearer understanding of when Akida will be produced and by whom. Also Akida's dance behind the numerous NDA veils will soon reach its denouement.

There are a couple of reasons to suppose that Akida is not in Prodigy 2.

1. Tachyum attribute the improvements in Prodigy 2 to the EDA PD tools;

2. They also talk about using their patented architecture for both CPU and AI/ML tasks:

"As a universal processor, the patented Prodigy architecture enables it to switch seamlessly and dynamically from normal CPU tasks to AI/ML workloads, so it delivers high AI/ML performance in both training and inference."

As we have seen, their patents cover arrays of ALUs, which are essential for CPU/GPU tasks, but have small importance for Akida, and that only as a concession to the quasi-standard 8-bit model libraries.

That is not to say that Akida could not improve Prodigy 2, but if they want to have a CPU/GPU/TPU all-in-one, they would need to relent on using the same processors for CPU/GPU as they use for the TPU functions.
 
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Someone here should develop something like this to sell to the government 🤔👿
I'm sure they'd jump at the just to bleed the citizens of more cash.
Had the same system where I live last week.

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Xray1

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Let's revisit your post in a week Esq. I hope you're right but I'm personally not anticipating anything substantial. Maybe the last 18 months of expectations not being realised has worn me down somewhat. I've become ambivalent to podcasts, partnership announcements, research papers, staff hires, LinkedIn likes - all fluff really if no money is generated as a result. Gen 2 was made specifically to address customer requests. Some of those customers have had about 6 months? early access, the rest will have access soon. Now is when the Gen2 rubber meets the road so there had better be significant fanfare for its release and committed, signed customers (who wanted this iteration of Akida) poste haste, or my current ambivalence will turn into doubt and genuine concern about the actual market penetration of AKIDA and the ability of our team to build meaningful commercial ecosystems. There is no harm in stating that 'yes Gen 2 is being adopted by commercial customers to create world first neuromorphic products' (NDA's or not). Unfortunately until such an emphatic statement is made it's easy to assume that we have no revenue producing customers. That's what the ASX thinks. IMO
I wish I could give you lots of extra red hearts for this very incisive post.
 
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Damo4

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Hi all, not sure what the concern is, we only need a 720% rise to get back to ATH's hahaha
How good is the stock market!?
 
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Hi all, not sure what the concern is, we only need a 720% rise to get back to ATH's hahaha
How good is the stock market!?
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