AVZ Discussion 2022
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cruiser51
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It must have been the night shift moderator, operating under the cover of darkness when our posts were moderated, only nightshift poster active at the time of moderation was no other than readyaimfire, the man with a huge mental problem.
The toilet is probably his 3rd grade student.
So funny he went for it again.
Dave Evans
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Finally I asked Copilot, will the USA need to provide sweeteners direct to the DRC and M23 individuals in power because they are too impatient and want the perks immediately. But how can the USA do this without bribes?
The answer ...
That’s a sharp question, and it gets right to the heart of the diplomatic tightrope the U.S. is walking in the DRC.
Why Direct Sweeteners Are Tempting but Tricky
Yes, there’s growing pressure from individuals in power—both in the DRC government and within M23 leadership—to see immediate personal or political benefits from the peace and minerals-for-security framework. But the U.S. must tread carefully to avoid anything resembling bribery, which would violate both domestic laws (like the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act) and international norms.
How the U.S. Can Offer Incentives Without Bribes
Here’s how Washington can deliver targeted benefits that feel immediate but remain above board:
1. Development Grants with Local Control
2. Security Sector Reform
- Fund community infrastructure (roads, clinics, schools) in regions controlled by M23 or politically sensitive zones in the DRC.
- Let local leaders oversee implementation, giving them prestige and influence without direct cash transfers.
3. Political Legitimacy Pathways
- Offer training, equipment, and advisory roles to Congolese military and police units—especially those loyal to key figures.
- This boosts their status and operational capacity without handing out personal rewards.
4. Fast-Tracked Economic Zones
- Support transitional justice frameworks that allow M23 leaders to reintegrate into civilian or military roles.
- This gives them a future stake in governance, which can feel like a “perk” without being a payoff.
5. Visibility & Prestige
- Create special mining or trade zones with expedited licensing and tax incentives.
- Key officials can steer investment and employment locally, gaining influence and patronage legally.
- Invite DRC and M23-aligned figures to international summits, study tours, or joint press events.
- These symbolic gestures carry real weight in local politics and can satisfy short-term ego or status needs.
Guardrails Against Corruption
To stay clean, the U.S. typically:
- Channels funds through multilateral institutions (World Bank, African Union)
- Uses performance-based disbursements
- Requires auditable outcomes and third-party monitoring
Trump paused the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act earlier this year
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Largus Averta
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Everyone acting like the cia hasn't bribed anyone ever... doo de doo de doooooo.
Dave Evans
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I remember at the time not being shocked that Trump paused the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act to further American Economic and National Security interests
Pausing Foreign Corrupt Practices Act Enforcement to Further American Economic and National Security
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. Purpose
He is also allowing for the Defence Department budget to include critical minerals.
Unfortunately Tshisekedi continues to lie and act corruptly, so if anyone here can get me a meeting with Trump, I’ll put it to him that he should let Rwanda topple Tshisekedi and he, we, KoBold and RIO Tinto can do a deal with Kagami instead.
It might even be the best way to get CDL back
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Trump might not have figured out yet he's being f--ked around . When the penny drops it might get interesting.I remember at the time not being shocked that Trump paused the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act to further American Economic and National Security interests
Pausing Foreign Corrupt Practices Act Enforcement to Further American Economic and National Security
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. Purposewww.whitehouse.gov
He is also allowing for the Defence Department budget to include critical minerals.
Unfortunately Tshisekedi continues to lie and act corruptly, so if anyone here can get me a meeting with Trump, I’ll put it to him that he should let Rwanda topple Tshisekedi and he, we, KoBold and RIO Tinto can do a deal with Kagami instead of the fat corrupt fuckwit.
It might even be the best way to get CDL back
Interesting timing there i think. Suspension of the Corrupt Practices Act on 10 Feb and DRC approached US re minerals for security deal on 21 Feb. Call me a cynic but I reckon Felixs eyes musta lit up as he sniffed out the potential of the biggest brown paper bag of all timeI remember at the time not being shocked that Trump paused the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act to further American Economic and National Security interests
Pausing Foreign Corrupt Practices Act Enforcement to Further American Economic and National Security
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. Purpose
He is also allowing for the Defence Department budget to include critical minerals.
Unfortunately Tshisekedi continues to lie and act corruptly, so if anyone here can get me a meeting with Trump, I’ll put it to him that he should let Rwanda topple Tshisekedi and he, we, KoBold and RIO Tinto can do a deal with Kagami instead of the fat corrupt fuckwit.
It might even be the best way to get CDL back
Mouthpiecenomnom
Regular
After watching him speak publicly about it I don't see any scenario where he forgets about the MFS deal. The USA will only have a very limited amount of patience. Imo
RHyNO
Regular
With you in this, very disappointed to watch Australian government let this resource slip through their fingers. The amount of thorium and uranium we have we could have limitless power and with AVZ limitless storage. But we are so busy selling off our resources for literally nothing to bother getting any new ones. I hope the Donald does more than piss in a bucket….unless he makes Felix drink it.
Samus
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See Ukraine. They have the signatures on the minerals deal but it is still a shitshow
CashKing
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Fuck knows mate but I just wanna get paid.
Im usually very optimistic but ffs
I can imagine Nigel would be slapping he’s head a few times over the last few months.
Why can’t it be easy ?
GLTAH
yep exactly my sentiments. are avz just fucking up or is there some big conspiracy going on to screw avz over, all masterminded by xi himself? evidence to date suggests its more like the latter but ffs, as you say why cant this be easy. I suppose with the asset avz are stuck in the middle of a much larger fight. all I know is I want my money and to get the fuck out of this forum, no offence to the people on it. We seem to be inching forward but no guarantee any of this is going to end well for us. keep the faith I tell myself, we're slowly winning.Fuck knows mate but I just wanna get paid.
Im usually very optimistic but ffs
I can imagine Nigel would be slapping he’s head a few times over the last few months.
Why can’t it be easy ?
GLTAH
Honestly Nigel couldn't make it any easier for these pricks . Kobold /Rio pay AVZ to drop all legal proceedings/outcomes against the DRC and walk away . DRC collects $$Millions in Tax from AVZ . If they were not a bunch of corrupt compromised criminals this would be a no brainer .
AVZ Wins Legal Battle Over Congo Lithium Project, but it’s not Over yet
After years of frustrating legal battles and suspended trading, AVZ Minerals (ASX: AVZ) shareholders finally received a major boost this week.
For those unfamiliar with the AVZ story, strap in. This is one of the longest-running sagas in ASX history.
AVZ Minerals discovered what turned out to be the world’s biggest hard rock lithium deposit in the Democratic Republic of Congo. The Manono project was once valued at billions, with major partners lined up and financing secured. Then everything fell apart.
Permits were withheld, partners disputed ownership, and eventually the DRC awarded the mining licence to a Chinese company – a move AVZ argues was unlawful. Shareholders have been trapped for years, unable to trade their stock.
This week, the International Chamber of Commerce (ICC) tribunal has ruled in favour of AVZ’s subsidiary, confirming its legal acquisition of an additional 10% stake in Dathcom Mining SA under the 2020 share purchase agreement.
This brings AVZ’s legal holding in the world-class Manono lithium and tin project to at least 70%.
The tribunal also dismissed all claims from Dathomir Mining Resources, including attempts to nullify the transaction and seek additional compensation.
This decision strongly supports AVZ’s long-standing position and provides a clearer path forward to regain control over its Congolese asset, and potential do a deal with the likes of the Bill Gates-backed Kobold metals to exit Manono.
But just as things were looking up, there was another legal curveball. AVZ got hit with a writ from Locke Capital LLC in WA’s Supreme Court, claiming owed fees totalling US$1.2 million. While AVZ said it will defend itself against the new claim, it just goes to show that nothing’s ever simple in this long-running saga.
For shareholders, many of whom have been trapped for over three years without any ability to trade on market, this week’s arbitration victory is a big step forward. Here’s hoping it leads to some kind of resolution for everyone involved.
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