AVZ Discussion 2022

[Frank]

And how does that reconcile with the US claiming they can only get involved if all the bullshit and shenanigans stops? By starting from a foundation of bullshit shenanigans? That's why the ONLY way this works is for AVZ to AGREE. That's what's in Nigel's statement, and that's what's got to happen.

Trump is already breaking global alliances and global economies. What do you think is going to happen to trust in the US and the entire global trade system it underpins if news comes out that they did a dodgy deal with a corrupt government to steal a project from an ALLY. It would shatter what last little bit of trust remained that the US was a country people could trust to do business with.

Not a chance. Not even with Trump.

This thing doesn't happen without AVZ being on board and that doesnt happen without a deal that's substantially better than our prospects with CATH.

There is a win-win-win situation on the table here if the US and DRC aren't too arrogant to take it.

There is a win-win-win situation on the table here if the US and DRC aren't too arrogant to take it.

 

[Skar]

A screenshot from the PMT resource upgrade this morning.

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See the // ....

Let's not forget what we have

Thats actually very interesting in and of itself... I remember the days when we used to just be an Asterisk on every competitor's investor presentation *AVZ omitted as an outlier.

The US now see us as being in scope.

 

[Pokok]

If your intent is good, welcome back!
Perhaps you can understand my suspicioun from my point of view?
Lots of new emerged posters spreading misinformation and trying to create discord!

To be fair he joined in 2002

 

[Pokok]

"Help me, Obi-Nigel, you're my only hope."
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I take a cap with $12 on it thank you

 

[cruiser51]

Its kind of strange because if they did not have the authority to hear the case why are they hearing the case? More importantly why has the DRC asked the question as it gives authority and legitimacy to the ICSID,

Exactly.

 

[wombat74]

The ICSID is a non starter IMO . I'm expecting Kobold to tweak their offer to get a deal done ASAP . Kobold nuppty on YouTube was almost blowing his load with excitement .

 

[cruiser51]

What can you do? We're too big

Get a larger computer screen, easy.

The largest curved monitor currently sits at a staggering 55 inches, the Samsung Odyssey Ark.

 

[LOCKY82]

The ICSID is a non starter IMO . I'm expecting Kobold to tweak their offer to get a deal done ASAP . Kobold nuppty on YouTube was almost blowing his load with excitement .

Shortly after they researched roche dure

 

[cruiser51]

The ICSID is a non starter IMO . I'm expecting Kobold to tweak their offer to get a deal done ASAP . Kobold nuppty on YouTube was almost blowing his load with excitement .

Kobold still thinks they got it in the bag, this is still on their website.

 

[wombat74]

Shortly after they researched roche dure

Remember these guys have actually been on site . Seen first hand those long raw naked core samples . Dudes probably had the boner from hell ever since .

 

[ptlas]

Kobold still thinks they got it in the bag, this is still on their website.

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Which proves that they haven't.
Yet?

 

[ptlas]

I thought $10 was the anchoring price and $12 was the meme price with the f@#$ Zinjin bonus?
Not that I can be bothered going back 2167 pages to confirm.

Pretty sure that's right.
May have touched $16 at one point, but that would have been me on the Sheaf Stout.

 

[DiscoDanNZ]

I thought $10 was the anchoring price and $12 was the meme price with the f@#$ Zinjin bonus?
Not that I can be bothered going back 2167 pages to confirm.

I thought it was $10 anchoring then someone asked USD or AUD and it became $12 AUD?

 

[Skar]

Too much focus on what the amount will be. Would be nice to ponder when. AVZ have proposed to temporarily suspend the legal action to facilitate the transfer, presumably if terms have not been set, there would be no need for a transfer which means no need to pause, so the legal action would go ahead... which means we should see something in the next 3 weeks?

or am I reading this wrong?

 

[tonster66]

Too much focus on what the amount will be. Would be nice to ponder when. AVZ have proposed to temporarily suspend the legal action to facilitate the transfer, presumably if terms have not been set, there would be no need for a transfer which means no need to pause, so the legal action would go ahead... which means we should see something in the next 3 weeks?

or am I reading this wrong?

Thats how I am reading it. We should hear something at the 11th hour. The chinese will know the deal with Kobold (someone always leaks, and they have their spies). Like we know the chinese do, could make their offer in that 11th hour. One way or another we will know before arbitration.

 

[PhatCatz]

What is the delaying court tactic going to achieve at this hour? It’s not going to get the case thrown out or delayed weeks/months? Just seems an easy way to piss money up the wall in lawyer fees.

 

[JNRB]

Thats how I am reading it. We should hear something at the 11th hour. The chinese will know the deal with Kobold (someone always leaks, and they have their spies). Like we know the chinese do, could make their offer in that 11th hour. One way or another we will know before arbitration.

We should also not forget the Chinese have ALREADY made an initial offer:

- Chip-in a huge chunk of cash to develop the project in return for a 30% stake and offer AVZ earn-in potential for further dow stream processing. As long as they get all the product.

It's on the Americans now to stump up a counter-offer that beats this. China may well offer their own total buyout after that, but they at least have made an offer to get this project moving in a way that's still attractive to AVZ holders

 

[LOCKY82]

Too much focus on what the amount will be. Would be nice to ponder when. AVZ have proposed to temporarily suspend the legal action to facilitate the transfer, presumably if terms have not been set, there would be no need for a transfer which means no need to pause, so the legal action would go ahead... which means we should see something in the next 3 weeks?

or am I reading this wrong?

Too much focus on what the amount will be. Would be nice to ponder when. AVZ have proposed to temporarily suspend the legal action to facilitate the transfer, presumably if terms have not been set, there would be no need for a transfer which means no need to pause, so the legal action would go ahead... which means we should see something in the next 3 weeks?

or am I reading this wrong?

19 days! Jesus I think I'll need a pre announcement that there's going to be an announcement for my hearts sake

 

[Xerof]

What is the delaying court tactic going to achieve at this hour? It’s not going to get the case thrown out or delayed weeks/months? Just seems an easy way to piss money up the wall in lawyer fees.

So far their attempts don't seem to have delayed the hearing, but they tried like fuck to do so. Piss lawyer fees up the wall?, yes thats their other angle

 

[wombat74]

We should also not forget the Chinese have ALREADY made an initial offer:

- Chip-in a huge chunk of cash to develop the project in return for a 30% stake and offer AVZ earn-in potential for further dow stream processing. As long as they get all the product.

It's on the Americans now to stump up a counter-offer that beats this. China may well offer their own total buyout after that, but they at least have made an offer to get this project moving in a way that's still attractive to AVZ holders

Is there not a US Security/Protection/ Felix Deal attached to the Manono deal ? USA/Roche Dure . China /CDL .