AVZ Discussion 2022

[ptlas]

I get it, I just mentioned it was something to consider at the time considering the crazy stranglehold they seemed to have over the DRC. Unfortunatley some were extremely highly strung at the time, and apparently if you're newly emerged to some here then you have just to eat teh dick of those who post the most for months before being able to add your opinion, there's no excuse for their behaviour, it was a good indication of their character though. All but a few jumped on the band wagon too, with Mr.genocide backer leading the tribe and taking everyone into the abyss with him and then taking it to ASIO whilst at the same time playing the victim, ironic behaviour considering who he was backing. It was indeed one of the most pathetic displays ive seen from a grown man in my life(but typical of the mindset), and I remeber all the ring leaders jumping at shadows permenently as if our situation had brought them to full blown psychosis. "oh he's got the same name as me, for sure he's working for MAGA", "oh he's newly emerged and talking about some negative stuff, im gonna post a troll gif to him 20 times and tell him he's turning this in the crapper then find Anti-genocide posts on his twitter and report him to ASIO"

enough of that, hopefully a lesson for many, and hopefully no matter how bad it gets, the overly paranoid gatekeepers can stay rational from now on. Now onwards, and upwards.

"Highly strung...playing the victim...ironic behaviour." Hmmmm

When you first blew in here, my first thoughts were that you were a little OTT.
Not for one moment did I suspect your agenda or motives though I 100% UNDERSTAND why others did.
I DMd one poster asking him to lay off you and why I thought they should and also in the interests of thread harmony. I did not necessarily think that they were going too far. No reply but I think they did wind it down.

Now lets get a few things very straight.
I am not a gatekeeper - nobody else is either. We are refugees from the crapper and have a tacit agreement to call out misbehaviour. It works extremely well, folks have apologised and for example some language has stopped as have girlie pics and some sexism.
I won't labour the point about the fantastic info', intel' and analysis that appears here on a daily basis.
Now it doesn't matter whether you, I or anyone else agree with this thread MO and the resulting decisions, that is what we have agreed to do and it has generally stoppped Crapper MkII, whilst maintaining humour and human interest.
I still get emotional goosebumps every time John is mentioned
With that in mind, perhaps you could show people here a little more respect, and not get strung up by anonymous bods on the interweb. Harmony.

I know that your remarks were not aimed at me, but I still think that you need to grow up.

Recently, I've been posting about people quoting prices that they would accept. I've made it clear why I think it sets a low bar for acceptance along wih a low bar for offers.

Since 22 March (two weeks) these were your posts and the prices you quoted or that I extrapolated from a sale divded by 3.52 billion shares:

$1.99 - 2.84
Auction
$2.50
$1.38 + royalties
$121 SP of Rio
$2.84
? + add $2.84
$2.56
$3.41
$2 hoping that management won't accept less.
$1.50
$2 sell to Zijin

So let's forget $121 as I presume Rio price was a joke.
Your prices vary between $1.38 + an undefined figure, and $3.41 which is almost 2.5 times as large.
What would you do if any reserve was not hit in the auction?

So yes enough of that.
Enough of whinging about your ' mistreatment ' here. The reaction to your posts was understandable.
What is not understandable is you outing grudges a year later.

Your OCD on prices and your changing with the tide is also beyond me.

So yes,

'enough of that, hopefully a lesson for many, and hopefully no matter how bad it gets, the overly paranoid gatekeepers can stay rational from now on. Now onwards, and upwards. '

There are no gatekeepers unless you believe there are. But I'm sure you're not paranoid.

 

[Remark]

Persecution syndrome?

Some nice rants though.

 

[LOCKY82]

Imagine trying to sell a one of a kind car in a private deal saying it's an incredible car and you'll only accept top dollar for it, then simultaneously your co owners are on a worldwide public platform talking smack and saying I cant want to get rid of this thing and get out of this absolute nightmare

 

[CHB]

"Highly strung...playing the victim...ironic behaviour." Hmmmm

When you first blew in here, my first thoughts were that you were a little OTT.
Not for one moment did I suspect your agenda or motives though I 100% UNDERSTAND why others did.
I DMd one poster asking him to lay off you and why I thought they should and also in the interests of thread harmony. I did not necessarily think that they were going too far. No reply but I think they did wind it down.

Now lets get a few things very straight.
I am not a gatekeeper - nobody else is either. We are refugees from the crapper and have a tacit agreement to call out misbehaviour. It works extremely well, folks have apologised and for example some language has stopped as have girlie pics and some sexism.
I won't labour the point about the fantastic info', intel' and analysis that appears here on a daily basis.
Now it doesn't matter whether you, I or anyone else agree with this thread MO and the resulting decisions, that is what we have agreed to do and it has generally stoppped Crapper MkII, whilst maintaining humour and human interest.
I still get emotional goosebumps every time John is mentioned
With that in mind, perhaps you could show people here a little more respect, and not get strung up by anonymous bods on the interweb. Harmony.

I know that your remarks were not aimed at me, but I still think that you need to grow up.

Recently, I've been posting about people quoting prices that they would accept. I've made it clear why I think it sets a low bar for acceptance along wih a low bar for offers.

Since 22 March (two weeks) these were your posts and the prices you quoted or that I extrapolated from a sale divded by 3.52 billion shares:

$1.99 - 2.84
Auction
$2.50
$1.38 + royalties
$121 SP of Rio
$2.84
? + add $2.84
$2.56
$3.41
$2 hoping that management won't accept less.
$1.50
$2 sell to Zijin

So let's forget $121 as I presume Rio price was a joke.
Your prices vary between $1.38 + an undefined figure, and $3.41 which is almost 2.5 times as large.
What would you do if any reserve was not hit in the auction?

So yes enough of that.
Enough of whinging about your ' mistreatment ' here. The reaction to your posts was understandable.
What is not understandable is you outing grudges a year later.

Your OCD on prices and your changing with the tide is also beyond me.

So yes,

'enough of that, hopefully a lesson for many, and hopefully no matter how bad it gets, the overly paranoid gatekeepers can stay rational from now on. Now onwards, and upwards. '

There are no gatekeepers unless you believe there are. But I'm sure you're not paranoid.

as someone whos on the outside of this battle..

what i did get out of it is...

....that i'm a refugee

 

[Frank]

Meanwhile tonite......

View attachment 81439


Last 3 years

PLS - ATH $5.60.......now $1.36 ( down 300% )

LTR - ATH $3.00.........now 46c ( down 500 %+ )

MIN - ATH $96...........now $18 ( down 500 % + )

SYA - ATH 39c............now 1.6c ( down 25 bags )

GLN - ATH $2.30.......now 14c ( down 15 bags )




AVZ - Suspended for 3 years , ( mental anguish, frustration, depression, echo chamber , french translation , corruption adnauseum, yada yada )

but....

AVZ - ATH $1.30......now 78c ( down less than 50 % )

now....

Potential TO in the works ( multiples of current price )


View attachment 81440

 

[Yaseen]

"Highly strung...playing the victim...ironic behaviour." Hmmmm

When you first blew in here, my first thoughts were that you were a little OTT.
Not for one moment did I suspect your agenda or motives though I 100% UNDERSTAND why others did.
I DMd one poster asking him to lay off you and why I thought they should and also in the interests of thread harmony. I did not necessarily think that they were going too far. No reply but I think they did wind it down.

Now lets get a few things very straight.
I am not a gatekeeper - nobody else is either. We are refugees from the crapper and have a tacit agreement to call out misbehaviour. It works extremely well, folks have apologised and for example some language has stopped as have girlie pics and some sexism.
I won't labour the point about the fantastic info', intel' and analysis that appears here on a daily basis.
Now it doesn't matter whether you, I or anyone else agree with this thread MO and the resulting decisions, that is what we have agreed to do and it has generally stoppped Crapper MkII, whilst maintaining humour and human interest.
I still get emotional goosebumps every time John is mentioned
With that in mind, perhaps you could show people here a little more respect, and not get strung up by anonymous bods on the interweb. Harmony.

I know that your remarks were not aimed at me, but I still think that you need to grow up.

Recently, I've been posting about people quoting prices that they would accept. I've made it clear why I think it sets a low bar for acceptance along wih a low bar for offers.

Since 22 March (two weeks) these were your posts and the prices you quoted or that I extrapolated from a sale divded by 3.52 billion shares:

$1.99 - 2.84
Auction
$2.50
$1.38 + royalties
$121 SP of Rio
$2.84
? + add $2.84
$2.56
$3.41
$2 hoping that management won't accept less.
$1.50
$2 sell to Zijin

So let's forget $121 as I presume Rio price was a joke.
Your prices vary between $1.38 + an undefined figure, and $3.41 which is almost 2.5 times as large.
What would you do if any reserve was not hit in the auction?

So yes enough of that.
Enough of whinging about your ' mistreatment ' here. The reaction to your posts was understandable.
What is not understandable is you outing grudges a year later.

Your OCD on prices and your changing with the tide is also beyond me.

So yes,

'enough of that, hopefully a lesson for many, and hopefully no matter how bad it gets, the overly paranoid gatekeepers can stay rational from now on. Now onwards, and upwards. '

There are no gatekeepers unless you believe there are. But I'm sure you're not paranoid.

Hi Ptlas,

In terms of "growing up" I wasnt the one posting 20 pics of trolls to someone who was just discussing the stock, and the amount of insults and childish behaviour coming at me was absurd. Im all for letting water fall off the ducks back, but I remained extremely patient in the face of wild accusations and an irrational herd like mentality, so there comes a time where one should stand up for themselves too, and it was nothing short of cult like pathetic behaviour from many. I really dont want to go over it again in detail, I even read back at all the comments recently just to rejudge myself and all it did was prove to me how all rationality went out the window for many in the "respected community". Im all for calling a troll a troll, the shane's, toilets, hoots, and the many others we've had over the years, but Ive remained pretty level headed over the years on both forums, even to the point of defending wombat multiple times over the years when everyone use to get stuck into him

I agree there is some great information in here, and I wouldnt be here if there wasnt, but that's no excuse for the behaviour in question.

In relation to my pricing, well Im pretty sure you could get almost everyone in heres posts on pricing and do the same thing. so pointing that out is irrelevant if it's a me v's the 'respected community' analysis. I dont think there was a huge variation in my pricing that you've mentioned, in fact I think you've exeggerated it to suit the narrtive. my prices were ATH +royalties or divvies amounting to around 10cents a share or a total thereabouts, or around $7b-$10b. I reckon most in here have varied more than me.

I dont worry too much about what ppl post on their pricing predictions as it seems the consensus from the informed is anywhere between US$6-10b which just went up in AUD thanks to the exchange rate and I dont think any vote would pass at all below ATH. I think almost everyone in here has said they'd take ATH TO when it looked like we have no other resort in the past, but of course right now considering the won court cases, the international interest and the damages over the years up until now, well most here are now confident with a figure anywhere from US$6b-$10b, and we are all in hope for a bidding war to push us to $10b+ and I can only assume the board will inform shareholders to not act on any of the initial offers if they're below our $9b claims figure. If after multiple rounds of bidding we fall just short of $9b then i'd accept it just to put an end to this mess

 

[BEISHA]

US lawmakers urged to stop China’s critical minerals ‘exploitation’ of DR Congo

House subcommittee hears that the cobalt-rich African nation’s population is suffering as ruling elites and their partners profit.

www.scmp.com

 

[Hodlandwin69]

On the bright side, the AUD is tanking so the USD sale price, whatever it may be, becomes more AUD

 

[cruiser51]

On the bright side, the AUD is tanking so the USD sale price, whatever it may be, becomes more AUD

And there is more, I noticed one of the shares not affected by the tariffs/sharemarket correction is The Lottery Corporation.
The yanks probably don't play Powerballs in Oztralia, or people see investing in The Lottery Corporation as a safe bet.

 

[Hodlandwin69]

$12USD = $19.61AUD

 

[BEISHA]

Hi Ptlas,

In terms of "growing up" I wasnt the one posting 20 pics of trolls to someone who was just discussing the stock, and the amount of insults and childish behaviour coming at me was absurd. Im all for letting water fall off the ducks back, but I remained extremely patient in the face of wild accusations and an irrational herd like mentality, so there comes a time where one should stand up for themselves too, and it was nothing short of cult like pathetic behaviour from many. I really dont want to go over it again in detail, I even read back at all the comments recently just to rejudge myself and all it did was prove to me how all rationality went out the window for many in the "respected community". Im all for calling a troll a troll, the shane's, toilets, hoots, and the many others we've had over the years, but Ive remained pretty level headed over the years on both forums, even to the point of defending wombat multiple times over the years when everyone use to get stuck into him

I agree there is some great information in here, and I wouldnt be here if there wasnt, but that's no excuse for the behaviour in question.

In relation to my pricing, well Im pretty sure you could get almost everyone in heres posts on pricing and do the same thing. so pointing that out is irrelevant if it's a me v's the 'respected community' analysis. I dont think there was a huge variation in my pricing that you've mentioned, in fact I think you've exeggerated it to suit the narrtive. my prices were ATH +royalties or divvies amounting to around 10cents a share or a total thereabouts, or around $7b-$10b. I reckon most in here have varied more than me.

I dont worry too much about what ppl post on their pricing predictions as it seems the consensus from the informed is anywhere between US$6-10b which just went up in AUD thanks to the exchange rate and I dont think any vote would pass at all below ATH. I think almost everyone in here has said they'd take ATH TO when it looked like we have no other resort in the past, but of course right now considering the won court cases, the international interest and the damages over the years up until now, well most here are now confident with a figure anywhere from US$6b-$10b, and we are all in hope for a bidding war to push us to $10b+ and I can only assume the board will inform shareholders to not act on any of the initial offers if they're below our $9b claims figure. If after multiple rounds of bidding we fall just short of $9b then i'd accept it just to put an end to this mess

And this your problem, retorting back all the time , trying to get the last word instead of letting matters rest and move on.

In the past you were posting 10 - 20 times a day like a TOLATE, so dude , read the room , take accountability for your own shit , move on and lets enjoy this beautiful shift of momentum from despair and drudgery...........to full of hope and excitement.

Yes ?

 

[BRICK]

$12USD = $19.61AUD

Not a penny less.

 

[LEFOOL]

Bullshit spike! Don't be a fucken softcock. Nothing could be more disappointing than the last 3 years. We deserve every single cent the we can can squeeze out the rich fuckers and multi nationals that want what we are entitled to, 3 years of reading the bullshit on hotcrapper, 3 years of feeling like a dickhead explaining to my wife that what has happened is not right, 3 years of working when I should have been fishing, 3 years of that fat c#nt and snake head living the high life! What would we all be doing right now if it wasn't for the corrupt c#nts. The BOD should be DEMANDING we get get 12 billion dollars US and not one cent less. That's what we would have right now if the ML had been stamped - or even twice that! Take the fuckers to the very highest courts that will reveal their treason to the poor bastards living in poverty. We deserve to count a shitload of chickens!

 

[Yaseen]

Persecution syndrome?

Some nice rants though.

persecution syndrome? lol, if you you were discussing some negative on a stock and some flog who just sent you 20 troll gifs then obssesively went to your twitter and used the fact you were openly against a genocide to try and rally the 'respected community' to call ASIO on you, when you were in fact just a long term decent sized holder posting on topic and looking for the best outcome for AVZ, then I'd think you were a coward if you didnt call them out (and anyone lame enough to support them) and stand up for yourself. Calling them out would be to help keep the community "respected", as their actions were the exact opposite to 'respectable'

I guess we must be built differnet buddy, Beish, same applies, ive said we will let it rest but some seem insistent to keep quoting me whilst attempting to stick up for the ridiculous behaviour, then its like the herd mentality kicks in and ppl have to keep repling or make some smartarse indirect childish tongue in cheek post in some desperate attempt to get some likes, grow up indeed, it's like groundhog day. I'm not here for likes. Just live n learn n let it go, there's no excuses for the behaviour that was shown, none, it takes a whole lot of denial and ego to keep trying to justify that with any response whatsoever

 

[Flight996]

Depending on who and how many entities bid on Manono, the best outcome may not necessarily be the highest cash offer. The best offer may end up being a mix. For example, RIO in conjunction with KoBold may offer a mix of cash + scrip + royalties.

While there are plenty of holders who understandably want to wash their hands entirely of the DRC and everything it represents, cash + scrip + royalties may be an attractive alternative for some shareholders, particularly those who bought their AVZ shares at single-digit prices and want to drip-feed their CGT liabilities across multiple years...

• cash compensation from Zijin Mining for the loss of Carriere de l’Este and its JORC compliant resource, plus​
• some cash from RIO for shareholders to pocket or invest elsewhere, plus​
• some RIO shares for those who want exposure to a big ASX listed diversified miner, and delayed exposure to CGT, plus​
• some ongoing royalties for those who want to retain long-term exposure to Manano’s big fat resource, which still retains numerous other unexplored pegmatites.

If constructed and presented well, this mix may be a decent alternative to an all-cash offer.

In any case, any proposal negotiated and accepted in principle by the board still needs the approval of ordinary shareholders.

Cheers
F

 

[JNRB]

Holy shit I had to scroll through a lot of bickering on here this morning. Is mercury in fking retrograde or something?

 

[cruiser51]

"Highly strung...playing the victim...ironic behaviour." Hmmmm

When you first blew in here, my first thoughts were that you were a little OTT.
Not for one moment did I suspect your agenda or motives though I 100% UNDERSTAND why others did.
I DMd one poster asking him to lay off you and why I thought they should and also in the interests of thread harmony. I did not necessarily think that they were going too far. No reply but I think they did wind it down.

Now lets get a few things very straight.
I am not a gatekeeper - nobody else is either. We are refugees from the crapper and have a tacit agreement to call out misbehaviour. It works extremely well, folks have apologised and for example some language has stopped as have girlie pics and some sexism.
I won't labour the point about the fantastic info', intel' and analysis that appears here on a daily basis.
Now it doesn't matter whether you, I or anyone else agree with this thread MO and the resulting decisions, that is what we have agreed to do and it has generally stoppped Crapper MkII, whilst maintaining humour and human interest.
I still get emotional goosebumps every time John is mentioned
With that in mind, perhaps you could show people here a little more respect, and not get strung up by anonymous bods on the interweb. Harmony.

I know that your remarks were not aimed at me, but I still think that you need to grow up.

Recently, I've been posting about people quoting prices that they would accept. I've made it clear why I think it sets a low bar for acceptance along wih a low bar for offers.

Since 22 March (two weeks) these were your posts and the prices you quoted or that I extrapolated from a sale divded by 3.52 billion shares:

$1.99 - 2.84
Auction
$2.50
$1.38 + royalties
$121 SP of Rio
$2.84
? + add $2.84
$2.56
$3.41
$2 hoping that management won't accept less.
$1.50
$2 sell to Zijin

So let's forget $121 as I presume Rio price was a joke.
Your prices vary between $1.38 + an undefined figure, and $3.41 which is almost 2.5 times as large.
What would you do if any reserve was not hit in the auction?

So yes enough of that.
Enough of whinging about your ' mistreatment ' here. The reaction to your posts was understandable.
What is not understandable is you outing grudges a year later.

Your OCD on prices and your changing with the tide is also beyond me.

So yes,

'enough of that, hopefully a lesson for many, and hopefully no matter how bad it gets, the overly paranoid gatekeepers can stay rational from now on. Now onwards, and upwards. '

There are no gatekeepers unless you believe there are. But I'm sure you're not paranoid.

Back to Suzuka and qualifying.

 

[LifesGood]

Holy shit I had to scroll through a lot of bickering on here this morning. Is mercury in fking retrograde or something?

Yes it is actually

 

[Spikerama]

Yes it is actually

Did you manage to purchase any shares LG?

 

[LifesGood]

Did you manage to purchase any shares LG?

No new shares. I only have my original holding from four or five years ago.