AVZ Discussion 2022

[yaseenmeoncebefore]

This you?

If so you would fit in perfectly in the secret squirrel chat imo

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BAHAHAHAH Carlos!!!

Didn't you get the memo? You are supposed to be pretending that the secret thread has all the good info. That way whinenut and Remark can try to satisfy their need for narcissistic supply by choosing who does or doesn't have access to the thread.

You exposing that the thread is full of unsubstantiated shite that never comes true goes against what they are trying to do...but you already knew that without me having to say it...yet you still posted it anyway...that is legendary lol

You are alright in my book

 

[Xerof]

read my memo you dumbfuck

Just all of the team without you, your alter ego’s and toilet

No secrets

 

[yaseenmeoncebefore]

Don't apologies @CDK222, call the shit behaviour out. It's a very odd reaction for a group of keyboard warriors to feel a need for "a safe space". If they are worried about a few trolls put them on ignore and don't respond, takes a few minutes but it's not that difficult. As grown adults, you would think they would have learned this skill already.

This mentality is a shame because it only punishes the genuine holders not the trolls, most of which just want some info in between announcements.

End of the day, a few posts in a chatroom is not going to change the outcome but hopefully they feel safe in the secret little chat room.

Yes, it is as simple as viewing and posting the thread as per normal and placing people you don't want to hear from on ignore. What you are not taking into account though, is that just because someone is technically an adult, this does not mean that they possess logical reasoning or critical thinking skills.

I would also disagree that it is odd for keyboard warriors to feel the need for a safe space. People experiencing emotional distress and mental health issues will often try to use safe spaces, as trying to operate in the wider community can be too overwhelming for someone going through a mental health crisis. Hence the need for the mental health therapy thread.

 

[yaseenmeoncebefore]

For any genuine shareholders of the non trolling variety, what I would say is just realise that what will be, will be, with this whole situation.

Try not to stress out about every small post or detail. It is a waiting game at this stage. If people are on here trolling and trying to get validation from creating private threads then just ignore their trolling. They do not have more information than other shareholders.

Register for the AVZ announcements to your email and then maybe try to limit check ins to two or three per month. Spend your time with friends and family because what will be, will be.

The most interesting recent development for me was Kiki's post. Nigel has been tight lipped with what he thinks is a fair value. However, I don't believe Kiki comes up with these posts totally independently. I think he has some type of connection with AVZ in order to provide positive PR for AVZ in the DRC.

Kiki suggests compensation sought may be between $3-5 billion USD. Not a total disaster and may be some sort of rough indication of a figure from the "AVZ side", although it is not directly from Nigel.

 

[Mute22]

For any genuine shareholders of the non trolling variety, what I would say is just realise that what will be, will be, with this whole situation.

Try not to stress out about every small post or detail. It is a waiting game at this stage. If people are on here trolling and trying to get validation from creating private threads then just ignore their trolling. They do not have more information than other shareholders.

Register for the AVZ announcements to your email and then maybe try to limit check ins to two or three per month. Spend your time with friends and family because what will be, will be.

The most interesting recent development for me was Kiki's post. Nigel has been tight lipped with what he thinks is a fair value. However, I don't believe Kiki comes up with these posts totally independently. I think he has some type of connection with AVZ in order to provide positive PR for AVZ in the DRC.

Kiki suggests compensation sought may be between $3-5 billion USD. Not a total disaster and may be some sort of rough indication of a figure from the "AVZ side", although it is not directly from Nigel.







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Acquisition Price (USD)	Equivalent AUD (Billions)	Implied Share Price (AUD)
US$3.0 b	A$4.80 b	A$1.36
US$3.5 b	A$5.60 b	A$1.59
US$4.0 b	A$6.40 b	A$1.81
US$4.5 b	A$7.20 b	A$2.04
US$5.0 b	A$8.00 b	A$2.27

Conversion rate used: Roughly 1 USD ≈ 1.6 AUD

 

[Anchorman]

Certain posters S H REGURGITATE the same old RAMBLE...!..imo..

Nigel has promised a lot in the pass but nothing has happened...imo..!

The IMMINENT M L...!!
Locke deal that went on for 12 mths then didn't happen..!
Well not TRUE ..Locke is taking AVZ to court for MONEY...OMG..!
Just hope for AVZ SH, we get SOMETHING in the NEAR FUTURE, so we all can move ON..!.

That’s a BIT OFF, imo…!
Nigel’s words have STARTED LANDING..!!! court wins, arbitration…!!
The LOCKE stuff is REDUNDANT — they’re chasing MONEY because they know the value…!
Not just HOPE anymore…signs are there if you look!!!
Stuck or like LOADED SPRINGS?????? Or just REMINDING people what’s ACTUALLY HAPPENED…! OMG… imo..!!
BRING IT ON

 

[PutUsernameHere]

Acquisition Price (USD)	Equivalent AUD (Billions)	Implied Share Price (AUD)
US$3.0 b	A$4.80 b	A$1.36
US$3.5 b	A$5.60 b	A$1.59
US$4.0 b	A$6.40 b	A$1.81
US$4.5 b	A$7.20 b	A$2.04
US$5.0 b	A$8.00 b	A$2.27

Conversion rate used: Roughly 1 USD ≈ 1.6 AUD

Can you do US$12b please? And for safety sake maybe reverse it from Implied Share Price of AUD$12.00 as well please
Just to keep things aligned with all expectations

 

[Hudnut]

If they are worried about a few trolls put them on ignore and don't respond, takes a few minutes but it's not that difficult. As grown adults, you would think they would have learned this skill already.

That would work if other grown adults wouldn't quote or reply to people you put on ignore.

 

[tolate]

read my memo you dumbfuck

Just all of the team without you, your alter ego’s and toilet

No secrets

One WOULD ASSUME ,You still taking NIGHT COURSES on how to swallow RATS...imo...!
THE M23 have not withdrawn yet out of the DRC or have they...!...imo
So when will this big DEAL HAPPEN..!
YOU can always invite them to your night courses...IMO...!

 

[tolate]

One WOULD ASSUME ,You still taking NIGHT COURSES on how to swallow RATS...imo...!
THE M23 have not withdrawn yet out of the DRC or have they...!...imo
So when will this big DEAL HAPPEN..!
YOU can always invite them to your night courses...IMO...!

The DRC and M23 have argued over a key but unclear component of the declaration agreement that called for the “restoration of government authority on all national territories” in a final peace deal.[4] The two sides offered differing interpretations of what “restoring state authority” means within hours of signing the declaration in mid-July.

The Congolese communications minister said that the declaration encompasses M23’s “nonnegotiable” withdrawal and the return of the Congolese army, the police, and judicial and civil authorities to M23-occupied areas.[5]

M23 has said that it has no plans to withdraw from occupied areas in the eastern DRC on several occasions since signing the declaration.[6]

 

[Jongo]

That would work if other grown adults wouldn't quote or reply to people you put on ignore.

That is the only problem. Back on HC I put all the trolls on ignore, and I put many people that routinely reply to the trolls on ignore. The problem then became that I am probably missing some good info because I have many many people on ignore.

 

[Anchorman]

One WOULD ASSUME ,You still taking NIGHT COURSES on how to swallow RATS...imo...!
THE M23 have not withdrawn yet out of the DRC or have they...!...imo
So when will this big DEAL HAPPEN..!
YOU can always invite them to your night courses...IMO...!

Still swallowing rats in Night Class 101…!
Three years deep and AVZ still waiting on the BIG MOVE…!
M23 haven’t cleared... tension is STILL seen in the air…
Perhaps no deal lands until the DUST settles…???? imo..!!

 

[Skar]

the echo chamber is spread across three or four platforms now

Some of us still try to combat the echo chamber effect.

 

[djhome]

Acquisition Price (USD)	Equivalent AUD (Billions)	Implied Share Price (AUD)
US$12.0 b	A$19.20 b	A$5.44
US$11.5 b	A$18.40 b	A$5.21
US$11.0 b	A$17.60 b	A$4.99
US$10.5 b	A$16.80 b	A$4.76
US$10.0 b	A$16.00 b	A$4.53
US$9.5 b	A$15.20 b	A$4.30
US$9.0 b	A$14.40 b	A$4.08
US$8.5 b	A$13.60 b	A$3.85
US$8.0 b	A$12.80 b	A$3.62
US$7.5 b	A$12.00 b	A$3.40
US$7.0 b	A$11.20 b	A$3.17
US$6.5 b	A$10.40 b	A$2.94
US$6.0 b	A$9.60 b	A$2.72
US$5.5 b	A$8.80 b	A$2.49
US$5.0 b	A$8.00 b	A$2.27
US$4.5 b	A$7.20 b	A$2.04
US$4.0 b	A$6.40 b	A$1.81
US$3.5 b	A$5.60 b	A$1.59
US$3.0 b	A$4.80 b	A$1.36

Try this for breakfast…

 

[KentCStrait]

Acquisition Price (USD)	Equivalent AUD (Billions)	Implied Share Price (AUD)
US$12.0 b	A$19.20 b	A$5.44
US$11.5 b	A$18.40 b	A$5.21
US$11.0 b	A$17.60 b	A$4.99
US$10.5 b	A$16.80 b	A$4.76
US$10.0 b	A$16.00 b	A$4.53
US$9.5 b	A$15.20 b	A$4.30
US$9.0 b	A$14.40 b	A$4.08
US$8.5 b	A$13.60 b	A$3.85
US$8.0 b	A$12.80 b	A$3.62
US$7.5 b	A$12.00 b	A$3.40
US$7.0 b	A$11.20 b	A$3.17
US$6.5 b	A$10.40 b	A$2.94
US$6.0 b	A$9.60 b	A$2.72
US$5.5 b	A$8.80 b	A$2.49
US$5.0 b	A$8.00 b	A$2.27
US$4.5 b	A$7.20 b	A$2.04
US$4.0 b	A$6.40 b	A$1.81
US$3.5 b	A$5.60 b	A$1.59
US$3.0 b	A$4.80 b	A$1.36

Try this for breakfast…

You need to qualify the exchange rate in your calculations.

You appear to be using USD$1 = AUD$0.625. I think that's very generous. A more realistic value to calculate with would 0.67 or higher.

 

[FatCatz]

Some of us still try to combat the echo chamber effect.

I post on footy forums etc. so have seen a very broad view of the “characters” that populate online platforms such as this. It’s critical to raise devil advocates, alternative views etc. against the grain but gee you open yourself up to the group think backlash “they are a troll” narrative.

 

[Uglybob]

Realistically, there's nothing in the private thread right now. If you ignore the toilets two profiles and yaseen, there's no need for it.

Interesting vid on the history if the Li-Ion battery for those who like this sort of thing.

 

[tolate]

Still swallowing rats in Night Class 101…!
Three years deep and AVZ still waiting on the BIG MOVE…!
M23 haven’t cleared... tension is STILL seen in the air…
Perhaps no deal lands until the DUST settles…???? imo..!!

More to the M23 SAGA...imo

M23 will likely remain in the talks to buy time to consolidate control over occupied areas in the eastern DRC. M23 has expanded its well-organized parallel administration in the eastern DRC and largely replaced the DRC government since late February.[25] Staying in the talks gives M23 and Rwanda time to gain even greater leverage by consolidating stronger de facto control over occupied areas.

 

[Anchorman]

More to the M23 SAGA...imo

M23 will likely remain in the talks to buy time to consolidate control over occupied areas in the eastern DRC. M23 has expanded its well-organized parallel administration in the eastern DRC and largely replaced the DRC government since late February.[25] Staying in the talks gives M23 and Rwanda time to gain even greater leverage by consolidating stronger de facto control over occupied areas.

Not quite how I see it…! M23 playing the usual game, but the PRESSURE is mounting…!
They might look in control but the CRACKS are showing — regional forces circling, diplomacy heating…!
Can only buy time for so long before the table FLIPS…!
This SAGA’s is about how long they can pretend they have control!!… imo..!!

 

[Skar]

I post on footy forums etc. so have seen a very broad view of the “characters” that populate online platforms such as this. It’s critical to raise devil advocates, alternative views etc. against the grain but gee you open yourself up to the group think backlash “they are a troll” narrative.

I am over 40, I grew up without the Internet and the whole 'group think', comment for likes mentality. I only come here to find out things I don't know and get different perspectives, not affirmation and echos.

Back on point though, https://x.com/matt_fernley/status/1953352302141550957, even mainstream view points are we are off the bottom of the cycle (my watch list is mostly green again now too). So either Kobold (or other negotiating parties Nigel Mentioned in the last announcement), thinks longterm and prices in future value or we just keep going through arbitration till the value we see matches what others are willing to pay.