AVZ Discussion 2022

Jongo

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I think I remember reading some time ago parties have 60 days to decide re hearing after suspension . Grok sees it differently .

The ICSID Arbitration Rules (2022) do not specify a fixed time period for parties to decide on a hearing date after a suspension is lifted. Instead, the process is flexible and depends on the circumstances of the case.
I asked Copilot if Grok is correct, and the answer is ....

Yes, your statement is essentially correct.

The ICSID Arbitration Rules (2022) do not impose a fixed deadline for parties to set a hearing date once a suspension is lifted. Instead, the process is designed to be flexible and responsive to the specific circumstances of each case. According to the rules, hearings are typically arranged through consultation between the parties and the tribunal, and logistical details—such as timing, format, and location—are discussed during organizational meetings.

This flexibility allows the tribunal and parties to tailor the schedule based on procedural progress, availability, and complexity of the issues involved.
 
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Goat

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Wasn't expecting that...
No way Kobold is going to sit at the table now. Any form of progress that DRC could have made with AVZ would have been a tell tale to Kobold to show how they can operate, be logical, forward thinking and generate some decent income into their 3rd world shit hole.
Just proves that the 3rd world will remain 3rd world despite the offer of financial aid, foreign investment and military assistance.

If I were Kobold I would be walking away from that big shit hole and come to Australia and start digging.
Absolute corrupt useless bastards. Felix is so complicit in the corruption and is obviously balls deep and has no way out.

Prove me wrong Kobold.

It's still worth $12.
 
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LOCKY82

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It's the same dumbass ministers who put us in this position that didn't engage, it's not like Felix is directly involved with the avz scenario, I'm confident once peace deal done, they will be stood over and made to do whatever is necessary for kobold to takeover avz's manono rights.

Also... fucking cunts
 
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Bray

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The words I’d love to say right now will not be used so I’ll just say fuck FUCK
 
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wombat74

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Reads to me as "DRC only will deal with KoBold", we wait until security deal is signed sealed delivered (K and DRC talk, agree, our agreement with K is actioned), and in the interim use the court case to ensure our legal rights and that KoBold can't Zign our asses.
Kobold cannot touch Roche Dure while it's being disputed at the ICSID . I'd say these DRC scumbags have been taking Chinese orders and f--king everyone around including Kobold . China want the lot and they are happy to have Roche Dure stranded while they rape the North .
 
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Goat

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Future events IMHO:

DRC have told AVZ to GTFO, going forward will not be abiding or recognizing any decision in ICC/ICSID, they'll offer it to Zijin under the table again and they'll be granted the license despite rulings.

OR

USA puts the hard word on, DRC obliges and Kobold gets the gig, AVZ is compensated by Kobold.
 
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Retrobyte

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It's the same dumbass ministers who put us in this position that didn't engage, it's not like Felix is directly involved with the avz scenario

I agree - I doubt Felix is across the legal stuff at all, he's too busy shopping the Rolex catalogue and making sure none of his military officers cook a Beef Wellington meal for him.

I expect Cominiere are the ones looking after the ICSID and ICC stuff, and not even keeping Felix or his staff updated. That's exactly how a shitshow country like the DRC works.
 
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Exo324

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Future events IMHO:

DRC have told AVZ to GTFO, going forward will not be abiding or recognizing any decision in ICC/ICSID, they'll offer it to Zijin under the table again and they'll be granted the license despite rulings.

OR

USA puts the hard word on, DRC obliges and Kobold gets the gig, AVZ is compensated by Kobold.
Will the US progress with minerals for security when the DRC has shown it’ll mess with American interests (kobold) in favour of China?
 
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Retrobyte

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Future events IMHO:

DRC have told AVZ to GTFO, going forward will not be abiding or recognizing any decision in ICC/ICSID, they'll offer it to Zijin under the table again and they'll be granted the license despite rulings.

OR

USA puts the hard word on, DRC obliges and Kobold gets the gig, AVZ is compensated by Kobold.

A couple of B2s flying over Kinshasa would speed up negotiations
 
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wombat74

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It's the same dumbass ministers who put us in this position that didn't engage, it's not like Felix is directly involved with the avz scenario, I'm confident once peace deal done, they will be stood over and made to do whatever is necessary for kobold to takeover avz's manono rights.

Also... fucking cunts
Felix knows exactly what's going on . He's a Chinese puppet .The fact the DRC refused to even engage with us is telling . Stall tactics from day one .
 
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Uglybob

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The only surprise here is that so many here are surprised by this.
Trump can't fix DRC incompetency overnight. The pigs in the trough are in no hurry to pull their snouts out. Unless Felix the impotent suddenly grows a set and takes charge, its business as usual in the DRC.
Nige has just lit a fire under their bloated arses. Time to roast some pigs.
 
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Strongman

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Will the US progress with minerals for security when the DRC has shown it’ll mess with American interests (kobold) in favour of China?
Yeah with basically nothing in that announcement of any hope we now wait for Friday and hope the peace accord and mineral deals get signed off. Seems our only hope is uncle Sam
 
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DiscoDanNZ

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I've been AFK but just managed to grab a minute and read the announcement...

Time to bend these crooked bastards over and give it to em, fuck the lot of them. Show no mercy.
 
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Pokok

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My thoughts USA should switch sides and back Rwanda , lets see how that works in favor for the DRC and the chinks , and close the corridor so they cant get shit to sea , fuck them
 
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TheCount

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I'm OK with this announcement, just up to the umpires to call them out now.

Manono - there can be only one!

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Mute22

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Sorry everyone, I did this by getting my hopes up.
 
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Penskefile

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Any amicable negotiations with DRC gives us leverage and increases the value of the project. Therefore It is possible that Kobold is also playing its part to screw us over.
If the minerals deal with the US is signed in the next week as suggested, and litigation continues then I believe it’s time NF provides SH with the exact price that Kobold is offering and then put it to a vote.

Enough is enough.
 
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LOCKY82

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Felix knows exactly what's going on . He's a Chinese puppet .The fact the DRC refused to even engage with us is telling . Stall tactics from day one .


They only take action when they are strong armed into it, whatever has gone on, once the peace deal is signed there'll be some serious strong arming going on and they'll do what they're told to do! Imo
 
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Winenut

GO AVZ!!!!
Whatever way this all plays out I want money in my bank account before any ICSID proceedings are ceased

Can't trust any of these fucking pricks....
 
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Panther22

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I thought ICSID was suspended until the 23rd therefore would have resumed on 23rd and the case gets underway. No mention of actual resumption date.
If DRC are not going to communicate with us we should refuse to communicate with them in the interim period.
Full bore ICSID and expose them to the world for all to see, Chinese too.
Enough is enough. Let the hearings expose them and other countries and companies have second thoughts about doing business in the DRC. Only people it’s going to hurt is the corrupt ones, God knows nothing trickles down to the people in this corrupt, bankrupt shithole of a Country.
 
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