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AVZ Discussion 2022
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Damn, after the drama with Kobold its hard to get excited again.
I think I'll reserve my excitement for when the news articles specifically indicate that someone is negotiating or in discussions with AVZ as opposed to the DRC.
Otherwise I'll just assume its another player trying to fuck us over
I think I'll reserve my excitement for when the news articles specifically indicate that someone is negotiating or in discussions with AVZ as opposed to the DRC.
Otherwise I'll just assume its another player trying to fuck us over
Well if the try to f$ck us over we're off to the ICSID!
Signatories and Contracting States
As of today, 158 countries have signed the ICSID Convention, and 156 of them have ratified it.
Notable Signatories and Contracting States
Some of the key member states include:
Americas: United States, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Chile
Europe: United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Netherlands
Africa: Nigeria, South Africa, Egypt, Ghana, Kenya
Asia: China, Japan, India, South Korea, Indonesia
Middle East: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Israel, Turkey
Signatories and Contracting States
As of today, 158 countries have signed the ICSID Convention, and 156 of them have ratified it.
Notable Signatories and Contracting States
Some of the key member states include:
Americas: United States, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Chile
Europe: United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Netherlands
Africa: Nigeria, South Africa, Egypt, Ghana, Kenya
Asia: China, Japan, India, South Korea, Indonesia
Middle East: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Israel, Turkey
You guys really need to get your calcs right, 200ktpa of LCE is far different from 700ktpa of sc6
Yep so would be pointless for RIO or Kobold to be nutting out a deal if AVZ were not in a strong position . Media reports AVZ issues need to be resolved . Means AVZ are holding the winning ICDIS cards . Kibeya can eat sh1t and die.
I’ve had a very similar experience. Look after yourselves it’s not easy at times mate.
Beat me to it.
Nobody wants to be a wet blanket, but this does really have a long way to go.
That said, assuming we win all of the court cases, or maybe some are never heard and we are awarded ML and etc,etc, my oly worry is what compensation we rceive for the North.
I suspect that our new bessies will leave it to Zijin and will have no interest in the outcome.
I think it was @Carlos Danger, if I recall correctly, who a year or so ago set out why AVZ had already lost CDL
NF is adamant that this is not the case, so it will also be interesting to see what our actual legal status is there.
If NF is correct then it will allow him to use RD as leverage for CDL.
Dave Evans
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Michael J. Kavanagh is a Bloomberg journalist. Michael Bloomberg (the majority owner of Bloomberg News’s parent Bloomberg LP) is an investor in Gates’ Breakthrough Energy, which holds a stake in KoBold, according to the company's website 
Here’s an updated link to the Bloomberg article (with embedded links) that’s not behind a paywall
Given Bloomberg’s reputation and links to KoBold, you would have to think they are pushing to get this deal done before the arbitration cases are due, especially given the information @Dazmac66 provided above regarding the signatories to the ICSID
If all that doesn’t incentivise the fat idiot running the DRC to strike a deal before the ICC and ICSID rulings he’s even bigger idiot than any of us realised
Anyway just to add to the speculation, here’s Gates with the fat idiot
Here’s an updated link to the Bloomberg article (with embedded links) that’s not behind a paywall
Given Bloomberg’s reputation and links to KoBold, you would have to think they are pushing to get this deal done before the arbitration cases are due, especially given the information @Dazmac66 provided above regarding the signatories to the ICSID
If all that doesn’t incentivise the fat idiot running the DRC to strike a deal before the ICC and ICSID rulings he’s even bigger idiot than any of us realised
Anyway just to add to the speculation, here’s Gates with the fat idiot
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Rio Tinto Enters Negotiations with Congo for Strategic Lithium Deposit
Discover how Rio Tinto's negotiations with Congo for the Roche Dure lithium deposit expand their battery materials portfolio.
Expansion on previous article!
I am just wondering how they know so much about the Roche Dure deposit? Sounds like we should be selling $10 tickets to the AVZ core sample library!
Carlos Danger
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KoBold’s letter said they wanted AVZ to transfer all of their rights to Manono to them. We will in turn receive appropriate compensation. That implies we will be paid to walk away and it would be up to them to work out who gets what. A potential offer from Rio could be different but it seems they are also mainly interested in the south. How much will be on offer perhaps changes depending on what is legally established which might be what Graeme Johnston was alluding to.
As for the north Nigel is obviously privy to facts I’m not and I’ve always said that I can only work off public information. But his various slips about ‘mica’ and ‘the south has the good powder’ over the years have been interesting to say the least. The mining code is pretty clear that it is the waiver itself that serves as the relinquishment and not the decree. AVZ’s current reasoning (which changed from the original appeal) is that the new decrees stand therefore the tenement is whole again.
But the waiver can still be enforced if the DRC decides it wants to which is why we have also gotten legal disclaimers like ‘There is a reasonable prospect that a party, including the Company, will be granted a PE in respect of the Carriere de l’Este Mineral Resource. If Dathcom is granted a PE in respect of the Carriere de l’Este Mineral Resource, further negotiations will then be undertaken with the shareholders of Dathcom in relation to the terms of the mining joint venture’ in official announcements imo
Frank
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*Another HC Home Run i see
Lucas Don Velor
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What about a cartoon/meme of Celestine being thrown under the rickshaw?!
Frank
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The Ministry of Mines strengthens the fight against fraudulent mineral exploitation
Cleaning up the Congolese mining sector was the focus of a meeting held this Friday, March 28, 2025, between the Ministry of Mines and representatives of mineral processing entities.
According to an official press release from the ministry relayed by the ACP (Congolese Press Agency), the discussions focused on the need for responsible and transparent sourcing.
The Minister of Mines, Kizito Pakabomba, strongly denounced the illegal practices that persist in the sector.
"It is unacceptable that some entities continue to source from uncertified sources, thus promoting fraudulent mining that harms our economy and the environment," he declared.
This initiative is part of the Congolese government's efforts to better regulate the exploitation and marketing of natural resources, with a view to maximizing economic benefits for the country and combating illicit channels fueling the informal mineral trade.
The Ministry of Mines intends to strengthen controls and collaborate with stakeholders in the sector to ensure a more transparent framework that respects environmental and economic standards.
mediacongo
*Thanks to the corrupt Clowns like Cominiere & Kizito 
Cleaning up the Congolese mining sector was the focus of a meeting held this Friday, March 28, 2025, between the Ministry of Mines and representatives of mineral processing entities.
According to an official press release from the ministry relayed by the ACP (Congolese Press Agency), the discussions focused on the need for responsible and transparent sourcing.
The Minister of Mines, Kizito Pakabomba, strongly denounced the illegal practices that persist in the sector.
"It is unacceptable that some entities continue to source from uncertified sources, thus promoting fraudulent mining that harms our economy and the environment," he declared.
This initiative is part of the Congolese government's efforts to better regulate the exploitation and marketing of natural resources, with a view to maximizing economic benefits for the country and combating illicit channels fueling the informal mineral trade.
The Ministry of Mines intends to strengthen controls and collaborate with stakeholders in the sector to ensure a more transparent framework that respects environmental and economic standards.
mediacongo
*Thanks to the corrupt Clowns like Cominiere & Kizito
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Frank
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According to mining sector specialist James Morrison, "Rio Tinto's interest in Congo's lithium assets represents a calculated long-term bet on lithium demand rebounding significantly as EV adoption accelerates globally. The current price depression actually creates an ideal entry point for well-capitalized players."
discoveryalert.com.au
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"I am just wondering how they know so much about the Roche Dure deposit?"Rio Tinto Enters Negotiations with Congo for Strategic Lithium Deposit
Discover how Rio Tinto's negotiations with Congo for the Roche Dure lithium deposit expand their battery materials portfolio.discoveryalert.com.au
Expansion on previous article!
I am just wondering how they know so much about the Roche Dure deposit? Sounds like we should be selling $10 tickets to the AVZ core sample library!
Does RIO have a head office in Perth ?Nigel might of had a BBQ . Invited a few mates.
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