AVZ Discussion 2022

[MoneyBags1348]

Bags is that in relation to the sale of the shares or the squandering of the proceeds? Or both?

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Open the link (above) to the report, you can use those words in in context

I have to go now Spike

 

[Carlos Danger]

Carlos correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall anywhere in the report it regards the sale as illegal. I really want to say illegal if it has been deemed to be.

What the IGF are saying is that the MoP should have followed the law to find out the correct valuation that was known to the market from Dathcom's DFS. By failing in her duty to safeguard the state's interest it has resulted in a loss of revenue of $120m for the DRC government. Whether what the MoP did in regards to the valuation is illegal is up to Congolese constitutional scholars but she definitely didn't do her fucking job.

The IGF don't care about AVZ's FROR. They are focused on stopping corruption bleeding the coffers of the DRC. This report wouldn't have been written if Zijin had the decency to at least pay the correct price when rat fucking us. Try to link the language you use to the outrage that is happening on social media about the Sicomines report.

China wins through corruption

DRC loses because of selfish politicians

Same problem. Same outcome.

 

[CHB]

Guys, what's the cost of placing ads in DRC paper? I'm open to chipping in

 

[Spikerama]

@Carlos Danger @JAG

It's alright I found at the very end of the report he basically admits that this was "indeed illegal" so I'm golden.

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[Mr Inappropriate]

Guys, what's the cost of placing ads in DRC paper? I'm open to chipping in

I had a similar thought myself. I’m open to it.

 

[Uglybob]

Maybe summarise with cliff note, ie:
Sold well under market value.
The deal has Dubious legality.
The money never made it into the public coffers.
The poor stay poor.

 

[Spikerama]

Maybe summarise with cliff note, ie:
Sold well under market value.
The deal has Dubious legality.
The money never made it into the public coffers.
The poor stay poor.

You can add all that to your tweet. There is only so much room a well balanced layout can handle.

 

[JAG]

You can add all that to your tweet. There is only so much room and well balanced layout.

Have you got the frenchy version mate

 

[FilthyRich2]

Guys, what's the cost of placing ads in DRC paper? I'm open to chipping in

Most Congolese don't read newspapers or internet

I have been pondering a large billboard for some time or perhaps a couple of them

Somewhere on a prominent road close to Ministry offices

A month or two of advertising close to parliament will draw attention, if it is written in French

DRC

The leading Out Of Home (OOH) media agency in Democratic Republic of the Congo, we offer Outdoor Advertising, Billboard Advertising, Digital Billboards, Airport Advertising, Shopping Mall Advertising and Street Pole Advertising across Democratic Republic of the Congo.

www.alliancemedia.com

I havent enquired with the above firm directly yet

Not too sure on cost but in Aus its $2,000 to $4,000 per month (depending on location) plus print costs and application

It's probably 1/5 of the cost in DRC

 

[Flight996]

Before anyone posts this can I get a sense check from @MoneyBags1348 please?

Is it accurate and fair? I had to paraphrase the copy to make it snackable. Once ok I will put it in the archive.

I will do a French version too.

Brilliant, particularly in B&W.

And I love the punchy message: No mine, No Lithium, No batteries, No future

Brilliant.

Cheers
F

 

[CHB]

Most Congolese don't read newspapers or internet

I have been pondering a large billboard for some time or perhaps a couple of them

Somewhere on a prominent road close to Ministry offices

A month or two of advertising close to parliament will draw attention, if it is written in French

DRC

The leading Out Of Home (OOH) media agency in Democratic Republic of the Congo, we offer Outdoor Advertising, Billboard Advertising, Digital Billboards, Airport Advertising, Shopping Mall Advertising and Street Pole Advertising across Democratic Republic of the Congo.

www.alliancemedia.com

I havent enquired with the above firm directly yet

Not too sure on cost but in Aus its $2,000 to $4,000 per month (depending on location) plus print costs and application

It's probably 1/5 of the cost in DRC

That's bugger all.

Divvie it up between a bunch of tse users and it's probably a lunch meal.

If anyone is in touch with the DRC journalists could be something to scope with them?

 

[Chase]

That's bugger all.

Divvie it up between a bunch of tse users and it's probably a lunch meal.

If anyone is in touch with the DRC journalists could be something to scope with them?

I'm in

 

[Spikerama]

Have you got the frenchy version mate

Frenchy I was just about to do but then the wife wanted to watch a movie so will do after.

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

That's bugger all.

Divvie it up between a bunch of tse users and it's probably a lunch meal.

If anyone is in touch with the DRC journalists could be something to scope with them?

I’d recommend leaving the journos out of it - they need to remain impartial.

According to my mate ChatGPT:
There are several companies that sell billboard advertising space in Kinshasa. Some of the major players in the outdoor advertising industry in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) include:

1. JCDecaux: JCDecaux is a global outdoor advertising company that has a presence in over 80 countries, including the DRC. They offer a range of outdoor advertising solutions, including billboards, street furniture, and transit advertising.
2. Kin Outdoor: Kin Outdoor is a local outdoor advertising company that specializes in billboard advertising. They offer a range of billboard sizes and locations throughout Kinshasa and other major cities in the DRC.
3. Top Media: Top Media is another local outdoor advertising company that provides billboard advertising solutions. They offer a range of billboard sizes and locations throughout Kinshasa and other major cities in the DRC.
4. Régie Publicitaire Africaine (RPA): RPA is a local outdoor advertising company that provides billboard advertising solutions in Kinshasa and other cities in the DRC. They offer a range of billboard sizes and locations to meet the needs of advertisers.

Edit:
As an AI language model, I do not have access to up-to-date information on specific billboard advertising rates in Kinshasa, but based on industry sources, the cost of billboard advertising can range from a few hundred to several thousand dollars per month.

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

Not strictly DRC or AVZ related, but this article does demonstrate a certain pattern of behaviour from a certain cohert of people and companies from a certain part of the world.

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[CHB]

Old mate couldn't find a DRC contact for the first one haha

JCDecaux is a global outdoor advertising company, and they have a presence in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC). However, I couldn't find a specific website or contact details for JCDecaux in DRC.

You can try contacting their regional office for Africa, which is located in South Africa. Here are their contact details:

JCDecaux Africa
Head Office
36 Dover Street, Randburg, 2194
Johannesburg, South Africa
Tel: +27 11 514 1400
Email: info@jcafrica.co.za

 

[BRICK]

Not having a crack at you @MDRY, but this is a false equivalence. The question assumes that Zinjin has equal rights to Manono (assuming Manono = 13359) - they do not.

It would be a fair question if it were a sale by tender by the government where all applicants could apply on their merits - it is not.

A better poll could have been:

• Should the DRC follow the rule of law and grant the mining lease to AVZ, or
• Should the DRC ignore the law and corruptly hand the mining lease to Zinjin?

All good. I agree.

 

[CHB]

I'm not great with this stuff, anyone interested to contact these guys?

DRC

The leading Out Of Home (OOH) media agency in Democratic Republic of the Congo, we offer Outdoor Advertising, Billboard Advertising, Digital Billboards, Airport Advertising, Shopping Mall Advertising and Street Pole Advertising across Democratic Republic of the Congo.

www.alliancemedia.com

 

[LithiumKing]

The support on twitter is starting to really gain momentum on the back of the latest IGF report

 

[Spikerama]

I'm not great with this stuff, anyone interested to contact these guys?

DRC

The leading Out Of Home (OOH) media agency in Democratic Republic of the Congo, we offer Outdoor Advertising, Billboard Advertising, Digital Billboards, Airport Advertising, Shopping Mall Advertising and Street Pole Advertising across Democratic Republic of the Congo.

www.alliancemedia.com

Guys to be honest, and this is just my personal experience from living and working East Africa for a number of years as a top level ECD of the largest advertising network there. A lot of this media is tied up in political entanglements. Very much like what we have here in the West.

Problem with over there though, is if little old AVZ TSE want to chuck some money in a kitty to place a billboard in a premium position somewhere in DRC, we will probably do our dough and never see the ad or the money again.

I can try to investigate through my contacts if you want but it's hard work. And no sure thing. Let me know if that's what you want to do but I'm already spending a lot of blood sweat and brain cells on developing what we might better launch on social media.

I guess the one good thing about onsite media is, if you can get it in the pathway of those you are targeting, it can have a significant embarrassment affect on them, say on the way to the airport, because it's real. It's tangible and kind of visceral. It's right there in real life as opposed to digital media where things do tend to be fairly irrelevant unless the message migrates to the streets.