AVZ Discussion 2022

[Winenut]

9 unavailable videos hidden 5 days ago. The question would be why?

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Would be a straightforward question to ask the company I reckon

See if you get a straight answer

 

[j.l]

It caught my attention as I sometimes go back to these interviews to re analyze them . I videoed a few of them at the time for personal reasons suspecting they might get pulled. If true this will need to be addressed .

I don't know any more than you guys do (in fact, I probably know a lot less), but it occurred to me that releasing an updated BFS with mind-blowing new numbers might not be in our best interests if we happened to be negotiating a deal for more %

Indeed during such negotiations, disappearing any interviews containing references to mind-blowing numbers might be helpful.

Just spitballing. I have no grounds whatsoever for this speculation; I'm usually a 'glass half empty' guy.

 

[CashKing]

We are being primed for a cheap takeover, fuckers have agreed a deal and know us shareholders wont be to keen on it so are draining the coffers.
Next thing you know CATH come in with a BS offer and we feel obliged to take it :

CATH : We will give you ......










$10

Nige has already signed that shit IMO, just waiting for the ML and the Mess and it’s all over boys and gals.

It was always going to end up like this, let’s just hope he doesn’t pineapple the Fuxk outa us.

GLTAH

 

[CashKing]

We need to continue to move forward with confident and intent . Show these low life c--ts we are not intimated and mean business . Show Felix we are the real deal . To sit on our hands while all this sh1t unfolds would be a mistake imo . We don't have another year . Election in December . It's crunch time now imo .

Sorry bud IMO Nige is out at the best offer once ML is done.

Ask around and Fuck another bullshit roadshow spin..

However I like the New 2023 Optimist Wombat74….



GLTAH

 

[pow4ade]

It caught my attention as I sometimes go back to these interviews to re analyze them . I videoed a few of them at the time for personal reasons suspecting they might get pulled. If true this will need to be addressed .

Whoever is running that reported shareholder class action would be relying on content such as interviews. Possibly the videos have been subpoenaed and Proactive responded accordingly.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Whoever is running that reported shareholder class action would be relying on content such as interviews. Possibly the videos have been subpoenaed and Proactive responded accordingly.

Has the class action proceeded beyond the investigation stage?

It hasn't gone to court yet as far as I or the market are aware so a subpoena couldn't be issued. Also surely whoever is behind the class action would be able to get a copy of the videos without the need to remove them. They would also probably want to keep the content of the videos public if they felt they had a case. More likely this was done at AVZ management's request imo

 

[wombat74]

Sorry bud IMO Nige is out at the best offer once ML is done.

Ask around and Fuck another bullshit roadshow spin..

However I like the New 2023 Optimist Wombat74….



GLTAH

LOL . Mate I haven't changed my views . 100% TO if we ever get out of this sh1t .

 

[ptlas]

More likely this was done at AVZ management's request imo

Which raises two questions:

What reason would AVZ management have for wanting to pull the interviews?

and
What leverage would they have over proactive to compel them to pull the interviews (over and above threatening no more interviews)?

 

[Bray]

 

[Hemicuda]

Well done nige, not sure how it’s even possible, but shareholder sentiment seems to be at an all time low, how can they justify that spending in this situation? I understand the need to be seen to be moving ahead, but this is next level dumb, unless something else is at play here???

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

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Bullshit. If we have “good legal title”, have followed the mining code to a T, and are of the opinion that the ML has been held up “illegally in our view” it tells us that the law is on our side and that there must be avenues for legal recourse. So stop fucking around and get into the courts and sort this shit out, stat.

Also, remember when we were smugly told how this shit would happen automatically by court order if the ML was not issued after 30 days? Nigel and his fucking hubris, hey?

 

[Carlos Danger]

Bullshit. If we have “good legal title”, have followed the mining code to a T, and are of the opinion that the ML has been held up “illegally in our view” it tells us that the law is on our side and that there must be avenues for legal recourse. So stop fucking around and get into the courts and sort this shit out, stat.

Also, remember when we were smugly told how this shit would happen automatically by court order if the ML was not issued after 30 days? Nigel and his fucking hubris, hey?

I've lost count of how many times I've needed to post this. The 30 days time limit was for the ministerial decree.

Q: Interview NF mentioned once mentioned once decree issued 10 day period before Court could issue the licence. What happened?

A: This was a misunderstanding. As soon as your documentation was in order and issued, this talk of periods was regarding the ministerial decree. Other steps in way of ML – CAMI have held up the invoicing, illegally in our view.

 

[Hemicuda]

I've lost count of how many times I've needed to post this. The 30 days time limit was for the ministerial decree.

Q: Interview NF mentioned once mentioned once decree issued 10 day period before Court could issue the licence. What happened?

A: This was a misunderstanding. As soon as your documentation was in order and issued, this talk of periods was regarding the ministerial decree. Other steps in way of ML – CAMI have held up the invoicing, illegally in our view.

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at this point does it matter?

 

[Carlos Danger]

And for what reason?

Which raises two questions:

What reason would AVZ management have for wanting to pull the interviews?

and
What leverage would they have over proactive to compel them to pull the interviews (over and above threatening no more interviews)?

No idea why they would want to have the interviews pulled. My guess would be it's because Nigel said so much shit that was wrong in them. There was another interview that he did in March 2022 that magically disappeared when we went into suspension. Can't remember who it was with.

Management wouldn't have any power to compel proactive to do this. Most likely they just asked really nicely rather than making threats. I could be wrong about some or all of this but to me it makes the most sense that AVZ didn't want the interviews available anymore.

 

[Carlos Danger]

at this point does it matter?

Yes lol

 

[Hudnut]

I wouldn't trust anything that bloke says. Been guilty of stirring shit on HC before. Non holder and confessed drama spectator looking to play with people's emotions IMO.

Having said that, I wish we had some better comms from the BOD.

At the moment we can read this a few ways.

1) We are farked. Nothing is happening. We'll run of of funds, get delisted, Felix will lose the election, MoP doesn't go anywhere, CAMI doesn't release the fees for the whole PE that we want to pay to get the ML, MMCS ICC doesn't get resolved and Cominiere doesn't own 5% to give to the DRC. Personally I don't think it will get to that before a Plan B to salvage something from the wreckage.

2) All is sweetness and light. MMCS gets the arse. MoP goes with them. CAMI calcs the fees. We get the ML. Out of suspension. Rocketships, whales and $10 TO or GTFO.

3) Somewhere inbetween. MoP may or may not go. CAMI may stick with only calcing the fees for RD. MMCS ICC case may drag. In that event we MAY decide to forego a portion to get the majority and an ML. Possibly an adjustment to CATH percentage etc.

Q1: Why doesn't the BoD tell us status and most likely option? Either they don't know yet because of the usual DRC go-slow and shitfuckery and are adjusting course as they encounter things, don't GAF about letting us know, or a combination.

Q2: Why keep steaming on with drilling, building and other expenditure?
- Because slowing down might also mean a haircut on BoD salaries

- Because slowing down might demonstrate lack of confidence in an "imminent" solution to both DRC and SHs (though they could just fucking tell us how confident they still are and why. I'm not fluent in nods and winks).

- Because the delay in the ML is delaying us enough, and we want to keep moving. I'd like to know how much cash is going towards "long lead items", and not just buildings etc. Are we still doing that because we are still confident, or have we stopped?

- There may be some discussions with CATH re: their expectations for us to continue for them to keep extending.

- The BoD may actually be in possession of good info that we don't have, and they aren't sharing it for some unknown reason. And that reason better be bloody good.

I'm not saying it's all rainbows and unicorns, but not much has changed since a week ago as far as possible ways this pans out. Every time we have an extension the trolls come out to fuck with people's heads and emotions. Don't let them. Yes, I'll lose a metric shit-ton of money if this goes South or we get delisted, but I'll be fucked if I'll let some dickheads on HC make me jump out of a window because they claim they "spoke to the company" or got an email devaluing AVZ shares and itself might be just more trolling crap.

 

[Deleted member 1612]

at this point does it matter?

Nothing really matters, anyone can see

 

[Chase]

That's an interesting point. Letting the drills go idle and laying down tools plays into the hands of those who generate fake news re AVZ doing nothing in Manono.

Exactly mate. I think they are priming for a takeover, hence the four rigs running.. proving even bigger resource.

 

[obe wan]

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Had a look at this on HC this morning, no comment on this particular post ; but interesting address on his earnest brokers email I think....Earnest Brokers using an gmail address....’earnest brokers’ anyone even hear of these guys...i only know of ‘earnest insurance brokers’ which doesn't deal in equities....theres earnest broking and financial services out if India .

Earnest in this email say they ain't expecting AVZ to be out of suspension till q3 24 / q2 25....surely a company buying shares off market would be aware that such information is incorrect / misinformation as the stock would actually be delisted by that timeline.....a Gmail address to boot...surely not

Also he's responded to the post at 10.21pm where he says he spoke to the company ‘tonight’, he provides a call log which states ‘yesterday 17.21’ incoming ( so obviously didn't call them ‘tonight’) from number 08 61867612.....i ran that number, obviously at this time there would be no one there, but this one keeps ringing ; avzs number which is 08 61867600 ( similar number apart from 2 digids ) diverts after hours, but the number he provides just keeps ringing.....

All a bit suss

 

[Charbella]

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