AVZ Discussion 2022

[Frank]

“President Félix Tshisekedi thanks Pope Francis “for his inspiring words around peace and solidarity”….

With a smirk on his face while his minister of mines meets with the corrupt Chinese to create some solidarity around a win-win situation of embezzlement fraud and theft of a nations resources.

Let’s see the reshuffle

Let’s see the reshuffle

*Ditto, Now the Pope has pissed off, lets see the long awaited / overdue / Imminent

Government reshuffle:

Yes the announcement has been made officially.

“It is true that it is imminent, but that could happen after the return of the President of the Republic who has already been in Switzerland since last night.

Things are already fixed, the new government team will be known before the end of January.

Maybe next weekend in the evening,” said a close associate of the President of the Republic who requested anonymity.

The Ministers on whom the suspicions of corruption weigh will not be renewed, according to our source.

“For the Head of State, all the ministers who are in the sights of the General Inspectorate of Finance will not be renewed.

Already the restructuring of his cabinet has been a strong message with the sidelining of people considered to be powerful advisers…”, Continues our source.

The RTNC will certainly be the most followed media in this period when the Congolese are waiting for the new government team.

 

[Dazmac66]

Maybe the political hitting power of announcing one of the world's most profitable mining ventures getting the green light is being used as a vote winner by Felix - the closer to the the election the greater the impact on voters come ballot day. I can think of no other reason for the bewildering lack of leadership.

 

[Xerof]

Even from Dubai, Utahjazz doesn’t escape my moderation reporting of his blatant cross promotion of TTX.

Kunt

There was a very interesting discussion on Twitter involving Solo and a local Congolese, which @JAG might like to post in here if he has time and can find it

Related to the political arrangements between FT and JK

 

[Samus]

ACAJ congratulates the Minister of Mines for having signed decrees nos. 00031 and 00032 dated 01/28/23 relating to decrees nos. 00147 and 00080 relating respectively to the granting of exploitation permit no. his partial waiver of the

exploration permit no. 13359. It is a courageous decision that allows the state-owned company COMINIERE SA to recover all of its rights to the Manono lithium concession. ACAJ reiterates to the Government its request for review of the DATHCOM contract
@KapiambaGeorges

 

[Doc]

ACAJ congratulates the Minister of Mines for having signed decrees nos. 00031 and 00032 dated 01/28/23 relating to decrees nos. 00147 and 00080 relating respectively to the granting of exploitation permit no. his partial waiver of the

exploration permit no. 13359. It is a courageous decision that allows the state-owned company COMINIERE SA to recover all of its rights to the Manono lithium concession. ACAJ reiterates to the Government its request for review of the DATHCOM contract
@KapiambaGeorges

Da fuq does that all mean????

 

[Samus]

Da fuq does that all mean????

Fucked if I know doesn't sound good. Unless it's only related to the mmcs/zijin give away. We need more info, or just as likely it's bullshit.

 

[Mr Clean]

Sounds like Zijin’s fucked if Cominiere regain their rights. That’s certain.

Though, I wonder if this means they are trying to revoke AVZ’s rights all the way back from 2016. They have a problem with the Dathcom JV afterall

 

[Doc]

Never a dull moment…..

 

[Mr Clean]

Honestly this is a positive development. If Zijin and friends are kicked from the project that’s great. If the DRC have kicked everyone, we can sue for damages in the ICC. Would the DRC be that brazen to try and remove us as well? I’m not sure.

But it’s finally progress after 10 months.

Something is actually happening.

 

[tonster66]

Sounds like Zijin’s fucked if Cominiere regain their rights. That’s certain.

Though, I wonder if this means they are trying to revoke AVZ’s rights all the way back from 2016. They have a problem with the Dathcom JV afterall

IGF have stated that Dathcom has a legitimate holding. The ann by AJAC refers to Cominiere rights, their 25%, which has been reduced to 5% which is in breach of the law. A positive move IMO

 

[wombat74]

ACAJ congratulates the Minister of Mines for having signed decrees nos. 00031 and 00032 dated 01/28/23 relating to decrees nos. 00147 and 00080 relating respectively to the granting of exploitation permit no. his partial waiver of the

exploration permit no. 13359. It is a courageous decision that allows the state-owned company COMINIERE SA to recover all of its rights to the Manono lithium concession. ACAJ reiterates to the Government its request for review of the DATHCOM contract
@KapiambaGeorges

'Partial waiver of the exploration permit 13359 '

What part is that ? Probably more fake news .

 

[tonster66]

Wombat, it actually states 133359, typo or?

 

[Sammy_da_Smile]

'Partial waiver of the exploration permit 13359 '

What part is that ? Probably more fake news .

Possibly only for the southern section maybe? Therefore being "partial".

Northern still in contention?

Ffs this never ends

 

[Sammy_da_Smile]

Possibly only for the southern section maybe? Therefore being "partial".

Northern still in contention?

Ffs this never ends

Also note the supposed decrees where signed a week ago, so why are we only hearing of this now?

We need to find what the decrees are, though not sure if they are publicly available

 

[TDITD]

Had a few to drink so I'll tone it down
FUCK THEM ALL
Corrupt scum shit eating cockraoches may they all die a slow painful death watching their investments in suspension

 

[Remark]

The devil is in the detail. I'm thinking this means that there is movement towards granting the ML for the southern part of the PR - although it's hard to tell with all the gooblegook??

 

[Sammy_da_Smile]

Does anyone know if 147 or 80 is our decree number that was awarded last year? And or what that number decree is.

 

[wombat74]

I don’t think it’s fake, acaj was on the money with that mmcs bullshit when we start our suspension. The decrees are both about our ML for the 13359 and the PE for the nothern part of 13359 we are fighting for. We need to know what standing in the decrees. But it doesn’t sound good when it give’s cominiere the possibility to get everything back. Hopefully they just mean the 5% mmcs + 15% zijin + complete % of the nothern part of the tenement. And new negotiations have to be made with cominiere about the nothern part, or anybody else get it(usa? Klaus?) as part of a deal. This would explain why acaj repeat that the government need to check the dathcom contract again. When cominiere have the chance now to get everything back because the president give a fuck about avz and will give it to the usa, we will have a big problem. Even if we searching for 10 billion in the ICC it would take years. And the last time the drc loose and have to pay a few hundred millions they have 20 years time to pay it back. Imagine how long it would take with several billions. The drc only have 12 billion in a year for their country at the moment. We would not see any money of our investment again in this case.

Unless she got a big juicy brown paper bag stuffed with cash why would she flip ? Is it for the mmcs 5% or possibly Nth cdl ?

 

[Modo]

I don’t think it’s fake, acaj was on the money with that mmcs bullshit when we start our suspension. The decrees are both about our ML for the 13359 and the PE for the nothern part of 13359 we are fighting for. We need to know what standing in the decrees. But it doesn’t sound good when it give’s cominiere the possibility to get everything back. Hopefully they just mean the 5% mmcs + 15% zijin + complete % of the nothern part of the tenement. And new negotiations have to be made with cominiere about the nothern part, or anybody else get it(usa? Klaus?) as part of a deal. This would explain why acaj repeat that the government need to check the dathcom contract again. When cominiere have the chance now to get everything back because the president give a fuck about avz and will give it to the usa, we will have a big problem. Even if we searching for 10 billion in the ICC it would take years. And the last time the drc loose and have to pay a few hundred millions they have 20 years time to pay it back. Imagine how long it would take with several billions. The drc only have 12 billion in a year for their country at the moment. We would not see any money of our investment again in this case.

If the DRC are going to start this nonsense, good luck with their battery council and plan to lift the country out of poverty.

No one is seriously going to invest a dollar in this country moving forward If, and that is a big if AVZ are thrown under a truck.

We need to see a lot more detail if this is true and detrimental to AVZ.

Let a company come in and do all the donkey work and then say pfft.

The country will be a pariah.

 

[Charbella]

My interpretation is the nought of MMCS and Zijin deal.